Talk:Emblem of Nepal

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does anyone know what the flag on top of the new COA means? --raraa 20:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

It's Nepal's national flag. Its symbols and unique shape are discussed on its page. --Huntington

Bad Link

The "Emblem of Nepal" link redirects back to the this page. Changing it to standard text. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Squadnleedah (talk • contribs) 13:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

Why the change?

It might be useful to add a sentence or two about WHY the new COA is better or more reconciliatory than the old one. What specifically in the old COA is offensive to some group or groups? Ifdef 14:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Good question; likely the monarchy symbols, but I've got no source for that. —Nightstallion (?) 23:23, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Interesting point indeed. For one thing, the map on the new one insignia probably symbolizes national unity, and the two hands reconciliation. At least this would seem logical given the recent civil war. It must be possible to locate a source somewhere. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 21:48, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

New version of the Coat of Arms available

An updated, more accurate version is now available Coat_of_Arms_of_Nepal.svg . Please consider replacing the current image. In the new version, the text on the red ribbon has been corrected and an extra bangle has been added to the female hand to resemble more closely with the actual Coat of Arms File:Nepal_Coat_of_Arms.png. PraShree (talk) 23:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The text in the emblem is wrong, it should read "जननी जन्मभूमिश्च स्वर्गादपि गरीयसी" instead of what's there. Please change it. Here is a correct emblem that's already in the wikimedia commons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.85.229.128 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 27 December 2011‎ (UTC) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Nepal.svg

 Done The new SVG version is currently in use in the article. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 04:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved per WP:NAMINGCRITERIA, which recommends precision. Miniapolis 17:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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Coat of arms of Nepal → Emblem of Nepal – Move over redirect. The symbol currently used is an emblem or seal, in line with those listed at national emblem, rather than a coat of arms, as it has no shield, lozenge, oval or other analogous surface to serve as the basis for design. Rather, it is a wreathed landscape scene with other symbols of the represented nation (such as the national flag) incorporated into it. The current emblem was historically preceded by coats of arms, but this move will leave a redirect from Coat of arms of Nepal. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 16:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

• Any reliable sources or source stats that provide for the name change. As current, this is original research.--Labattblueboy (talk) 03:22, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't follow. WP:OR is a content policy, not a naming policy, and anyone can see that Nepal's current emblem (since circa 2006) is not a coat of arms. Naming policies are outlined at WP:NC, which states "the ideal article title resembles titles for similar articles, precisely identifies the subject, and is short, natural, and recognizable." The proposed name precisely identifies the subject (more so than "coat of arms"), is succinct, natural and recognizable, and resembles titles for similar articles (see many of these listed at national emblem). Please have a look at Emblem of Italy for a very fitting precedent. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:03, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

You need to provide reliable sourcing that's all. It's entirely conceivable that an emblem be commonly referred to as a coat of arms (correct of not). That being said, this results should resolve the matter: [1]. Search result for the coat of arms all relate to the old not the new.--Labattblueboy (talk) 21:56, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not at all surprising that they would replace the monarchy-era coat of arms with a decidedly unheraldic emblem during the 2006-2008 uprising that overthrew the monarchy and established a federal republic. Part of the trouble here is that there doesn't seem to be much information published in English about the Nepalese revolution, much less the change to the national emblem/coat of arms. Nevertheless, the change is clear to see, and I don't think it's OR to call a coat of arms a coat of arms and to call an emblem an emblem, particularly when it comes to article naming, where we routinely exercise editorial discretion in determining factors such as primary topic, common name, neutrality and due (or undue) disambiguation. As you pointed out, most English sources available refer to a "coat of arms" of Nepal, but these refer to the older, actual coats of arms, not to the new emblem. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 03:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

• An article should definitely be titled emblem if it's about an emblem and not a coat of arms. However I'm wondering how the situations are usually handled where a country has both a (current) emblem and a (historical) coat of arms. Should there be two articles, or are old national symbols usually handled within the same article? Jafeluv (talk) 18:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Good question. As far as I have seen, article titles are usually adjusted to keep up with what is currently in use. For instance, try coat of arms of the United States or coat of arms of Italy (hint: these are both redirects, since both countries currently use unheraldic emblems). I would let the old CoA of Nepal content follow the move and leave a redirect (from Coat of arms of Nepal to Emblem of Nepal) in place. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 19:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

• Support. It is clear that Nepal has stepped away from the European tradition. Emblem is more generic, thus more acceptable by default. This is a mild case of ethnocentrism bias fixable by the suggested move. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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