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New South Wales Eight Hours Act?
[edit]I've googled it and come up with nothing. Furthermore, http://www.actu.asn.au/About/Tradeunions/default.aspx lists no such act, or anything in 1916. Could someone look deeper into this?--122.106.144.143 (talk) 11:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Inconsistency
[edit]The inconsistent and contradictory dates, facts and arguments in the Wikipedia postings for May Day, Labor Day, the Haymarket strike/riot, and the eight-hour workday are amazing. I love that people are making entries, but the academic oversight -- if only for the sake so factual consistency -- is sadly lacking.—preceding unsigned comment by 63.204.50.125 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 30 July 2005 (UTC+11 hours ) This is Wikipedia; Fix it yourself instead of just complaining about liberal bias.—preceding unsigned comment by 24.218.17.203 (talk • contribs) 09:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC+11 hours )
Finland?
[edit]What is source for Finland's 1927? An article in Finnish parliament's website says that Finnish government accepted law for 8-hour workdays in November 1917. https://www.eduskunta.fi/FI/naineduskuntatoimii/kirjasto/tietopalvelulta-kysyttya/Sivut/miten-eduskunta-paatti-kahdeksan-tunnin-tyopaivasta.aspx
Japan?
[edit]Why did this idea never spread to Japan? "Japanese work environment" says 46 hours is the norm. But many workers in Japan work 6 days a week and very long office hours. It would be nice to see a section on this here. ... Seabhcan 15:44, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Uk
[edit]The UK section definitely needs expansion. I will attempt such efforts though help would be much appreciated.SpaceManDoom (talk) 21:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I think you face grave difficulty because the situation is indeed complicated, and the articles on slavery provide inadequate support for an accurate reflection of the situation in the UK during the 18th and 19th centuries. I can't see how you can avoid mentioning the enclosures acts, which directly effected the pattern of labout throughout Britain and the hours worked, the movement into the cities during the industrial revolution (one must always remember to ask why they fled the land in such numbers) which seems to have paradoxically improved the lot of the working classes materially by enforced regulation. It would also be necessary to mention that the lot of an agricultural labourer and the hours he was forced to work were not pleasant and in many cases the families of these labourers were little better that the farmer's slaves. Stone picking in the Cotswolds was a common requirement for every member of a family and it was not unusual for a family to lose their home because they had not collected sufficient stones to meet the farmer's liking. There are also days spent on parish tasks, such as repairing roads, which went largely unrecorded and it should also be remembered that schools were not quite the kind hearted wonders of the age. The school in Fairford, Gloucestershire records a number of days on which there was no school because the local farmers demanded that all the children present themselves for unpaid work in the fields, particularly during harvest.
In other words, heaven knows where you start! But if the help of a complete beginner (even at this late stage) is of any use, count me in.
Drg40 (talk) 17:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
"Eight Hours Day"
[edit]"Eight Hours Day", presumably referring to the holiday, redirects here, but is not covered per se. It may be good to address it here, but if not, the reader would be better served by having "Eight Hours Day" redirect to either Labour Day#Australia or Australian public holidays#Labour Day, both of which explain what Eight Hours Day is. Jim (talk) 20:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
"40 Hour Work Week vs 8 Hour Day?"
[edit]It says here that the 40 hour workweek movement and the 8 hour day movement were the same thing...is that true? There is no mention of this in any source. Did only having to work 40 hours a week coincide with the eight hour day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.196.244.130 (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
IT's TIME!
[edit]200 years ago, our ancestors won 8 hours per day work 8 hours recreation and 8 hours rest.
Today, unemployment is common because some of us are working more than 8 hours per day. Some of them are working more than 12 hours per day and call it "career"!!!
It's time to demand 6 hours per day, 30 hours per week. It's time to have a life. To raise our children, to communicate, to participate, to free our selves from new slavery. [twitter:#30HpWEEK] http://30HpWEEK.tk
Common people create jobs. --Filippos2 (talk) 18:27, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Most unhealthy work time in health care
[edit]Carers in care homes work 12 hours per day, at least 48 hours a week, of which 4 hours are not paid (mandatory breaks). Doctors work longer and are on call for a long time. Consultants are allowed to cut people open after 12 hours on the job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.120.88 (talk) 08:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Six-hour_day
[edit]what about Six-hour_day?--Kaiyr (talk) 13:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- in Russian https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%8C — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.118.90.188 (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
NZ
[edit]Somebody should verify the NZ rant inserted int he article about conditions deteriorating in the 1990's - this is the Labour Party (Left) version - which is not necessarily the truth. Most companies do have 37.5 hour working week in NZ and overtime is *optional* and often paid for flexible jobs like nurses at good rates. Whichever goes - should have some citations to the legislation at least!
Here is example of the opposite: http://www.dol.govt.nz/immigration/knowledgebase/item/1329 - I suspect people use Wikipedia for politics (e.g. recently in 2014 in NZ Labour barely managed to win 25% of the vote - down from being one of the parties leading the country until 2008, so...)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.152.119 (talk) 19:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
First European country?
[edit]"Spain was the first European country to pass a national eight-hour day law." Is there any source for that claim? From what I read the federal government of Germany introduced 8-hour work day as early as November 1918. Not to mention Russia, which is usually considered to be part of Europe as well. Litawor (talk) 11:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
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US and 12-hour day in 1923
[edit]I was reading old Time Magazine articles and came across this from Issue #2 in March 1923: The Twelve-Hour Day. It discusses a 12 hour day, and something about a judge and scientific evidence the 12 hour day is dangerous. It sounds like 12 hour days are still the norm in some industries in 1923.
Jeffrey Walton (talk) 03:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Italy
[edit]I am trying to find out when the Eight hour working day came into effect in Italy.
I know according to Benito Mussolini in his 1928 autobiography he says the eight hour working day was ratified, which unless its a bare face lie, means the Fascists legalised the eight hour working day limit in Italy.
However I cannot find the specific year the ratification he claims happened.
Any ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.142.205 (talk) 20:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Danish picture under Hungary
[edit]Could the picture moved to Denmark? Decimalharmless (talk) 09:00, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Lede
[edit]The last sentence in the lede can be eliminated. It attributes the 8 hour day in the contemporary era to the Soviet Union. There are many other examples from around the same time or even 50 years earlier. Colonial Computer 00:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22yearswothanks (talk • contribs)
Voluntary opt out in UK
[edit]In UK new employees in a company are asked to sign the voluntary opt out form for the 48h week. HR sends a reminder when the form is missing, and calls, but doesn't put further pressure on. 194.207.180.128 (talk) 05:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
Mqke a comparative tsble
[edit]MSKE a comparative table. 2A01:E34:EC12:36C0:1CEA:5A7:2180:4A04 (talk) 18:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 19 September 2024
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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) JuniperChill (talk) 23:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Eight-hour day → Eight-hour day movement – Seems rather odd that this title excludes the word "movement", as it would seem to be about days lasting eight hours rather than the fight for an 8-hour workday. Adding "movement" makes it far less confusing at first glance. Alternatively, Eight-hour workday would be similarly less confusing. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:43, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The subject of the article is not "an eight-hour day" but the movement to make it the normal daily period of labor. ╠╣uw [talk] 13:04, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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