Talk:Diane von Fürstenberg

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Renaming?

Since she does not use the official/traditional umlaut of the Fürstenberg surname, this article should be retitled accordingly.Kitchawan 17:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Remarriage means that she is not merely "no longer entitled to use the title princess following her divorce and subsequent remarriage in 2001", but no longer entitled to use the surname Von Furstenberg either.203.184.41.226 (talk) 01:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dynasticity

As Kitchawan has now cited in the edt history, according to the Almanach de Gotha, Furstliche Hauser of 1991 (GHdA), Egon's marriage to Diane Halfin was accepted as dynastic by the princely family. As GHdA submits its entries to dynastic Heads of Houses prior to publication, this is the most authoritative evidence extant. Moreover, this doesn't even appear to be a case of retro-demorganatization, since GHdA Band XII page 205 of 1984 (the first Furstlich Hauser edition to include the Furstenbergs since the Halfin wedding in 1968) also shows this marriage as fully dynastic. Furstenberg had registered house laws, but as in most non-reigning dynasties, these appear to no longer be enforced by the family. Under the Holy Roman Empire, an immediate principality could have established its own rules by unanimous consent of male agnates, by Imperial authorization of dynastic rules, and in some cases by testament of a deceased Head of House. After mediatization, the rules had to be registered with the famiy's new sovereign. Furstenberg's rules were registered, and were enforceable by law until 1918. That standard was Stiftmäßiger Adel, i.e. the prevailing genealogical standard for admission of monks or nuns into the noble chapterhouse of an Imperial abbey -- usually four or eight quarterings (generations) of nobility. But since then, most mediatized families have, by agnatic consensus, reduced or stopped enforcing equality of birth rules. Leiningen was the only mediatized princely family that opted for required authorization by the Head of House rather than for specific marital standards. Some houses simply never bothered to register any marital rules, so they did not become law under any of the German monarchies. Although GHdA asks each Head of House to confirm and inform the publication's entries, this means that GHdA relies upon the Heads to report application of dynastic rules -- not to substitute the Head's judgment for those rules (and Guy Sainty has publicly criticized the Gotha and GHdA for inadvertently misleading genealogists and monarchists into believing that Heads of deposed dynasties automatically have marital authority over cadets, even in cases where no such authority ever legally existed under the monarchy). In Furstenberg, the Head had no authority to grant or withhold authorization to marriages of cadets, and GHdA cannot -- and does not purport -- to have conferred such authority on any dynastic Head. Lethiere 21:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Umlaut

The article needs to be consistent, from title to text to footnotes. Do we use the umlaut or not? She doesn't anymore, as a call to her office attests.Kitchawan 18:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prince and Princess

In Germany, nobility has been abolished for 90 years now. Members of noble houses can only "keep" a title as part of their last name. It's not a title anymore, so it cannot precede the complete name and it cannot be translated. Therefore it's Diane Prinzessin von Fürstenberg (where "Prinzessin von Fürstenberg" is the last name), not Prinzessin Diane von Fürstenberg (Princess = Prinzessin). The German Wikipedia article gets it right. I highly doubt that the Genealogisches Handbuch claims differently. It's the same for her former husband and her children.--134.130.4.242 (talk) 00:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While Germany no longer officially recognizes noble titles, the noble families still do. Her marriage was considered dynastic by the House of Furstenberg, and therefore, to the family, she was considered a princess at the time she was married to Egon. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Alexander (born six months after their wedding)

Seems needlessly petty and gossipy to point out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.184.81.186 (talk) 19:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Parents

Her father was Romanian. That is clear enough. But was her mother Greek? I am not sure that "Nahmias" is a Greek name. What is the relevance of calling her a "Holocaust survivor". That does not define anyone, particularly their identity.203.184.41.226 (talk) 02:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nahmias is a Jewish name. She was a Greek Jew. And being the child of a survivor has defined her identity, as she has said, and as many children of survivors attest. -- 64.131.245.59 (talk) 10:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

End of marriage to the Prince?

The article says her first marriage ended in 1972, the infobox has 1983. (and the Prince's article says 1972) Can someone please verify?Naraht (talk) 22:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Net Worth

Forbes has here net worth at US$ 450 million (2015)^[1]. Where could this be added?WikiEditCrunch (talk) 20:58, 20 November 2015 (UTC)Kind Regards WEC[reply]

References

^ http://www.forbes.com/profile/diane-von-furstenberg/?list=self-made-women

Assessment comment

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Beginnings of a good article about an important and influential designer. Daniel Case 17:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 17:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 13:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Love Is life

Would love to work with her to spread the word 2601:584:C000:C60:80A4:15FA:1E8B:483F (talk) 20:31, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poor writing

The prose is poorly written, with sloppy syntax — not incoherent, but not up to standards. 72.76.14.54 (talk) 22:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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