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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Deobandi was copied or moved into Darul Uloom Deoband with this edit on 01:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC). The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

On 16 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Deobandi to Deobandi movement. The result of the discussion was moved.

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August 2020

@AaqibAnjum: please, read this article once. Owais Al Qarni (talk) 17:24, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Pakistan cultivating militancy" NPOV?

(Sorry for format, amateur here). In August of 2020, User:HLHJ contributed an edit full of info, but one line in the header, which is yet to be cited, seems like it might be violating WP:NPOV. The original line is "The Pakistani government deliberately cultivated Deobandi militancy to fight the Soviet Union and India (in Kashmir)." Can we make this a bit more neutral? It seems to be unsubstantiated criticism of the Pakistani government, or something of the sort. 2601:602:8500:3DD0:0:0:0:52AD (talk) 03:39, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is complicated business, but more or less true. I added another citation if it helps. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:2601:602:8500:3DD0:0:0:0:52AD, your format is fine, though it's handy to link to the diff, like this: my edit, giving the date made it fairly easy for me to find (logging in with an account also makes it possible for me to ping you; I hope the ping above works). My original edit cited a BBC source (which I trust substantiated the statement); it has since been replaced. Actually, a lot of my sourcing has been replaced, in some cases (like the end of the second lede para) with quoted sources that do not seem to support the statements. I think some of the historical context and chronological order, which helped balance the statements, has also eroded. I have not read through the past year and a third of edit comments, so I don't know why. Kautilya3, I don't know if the old sources are useful to you. HLHJ (talk)

Yes, they were excellent documentaries. Watched all four parts. I removed it as a citation basically because the specific place where the content is supported is not easy to find. That is generally a problem with AV media, but if you follow template:cite AV media, it can be made to work.

By the way, ping to IP addresses doesn't work. I presume the the user is now gone anyway. Happy holidays! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic State

Islamic State was a flowering of Deobandi thinking. Should this not be mentioned? Rustygecko (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 December 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 07:58, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deobandi → Deobandi movement – Similar reasons listed at Talk:Barelvi movement#Requested move 8 December 2022 by Iskandar323. The titles should be consistent. ─ The Aafī (talk) 03:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Yep, I agree. Titles should be concise, but not to the point of being grammatically incoherent. 'Deobandi' is either the word for one follower of the movement or an adjectival descriptor for the movement - and neither of those are appropriate standalone terms for the article title. 'Deobandism' is an alternative, but the proposed title is more prevalent [1]. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:21, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Titles should be concise. Numis Zuhair (talk) 14:20, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and per the Google Ngram cited by Iskandar323, without prejudice for a further RM if another term should be found to be more common in RS. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 17:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination, WP:COMMONNAME and the reasons provided above by Iskandar323 and Apaugasma.--TheEagle107 (talk) 06:05, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support since the titles should be consistent and in congruence shadowwarrior8(talk) 9:01 19 December 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.