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Compiled some starting content from other pages

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There was a sentence or two about this on several pages, I'll list any pages I copied content from here:

MWQs (talk) 04:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Smaller bits of copied content are listed in the edit summaries. MWQs (talk) 21:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 July 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Deif family killings. Numerous titles were proposed here, though the current one was widely agreed to be too imprecise. The general consensus appears to lean towards Deif family killings, as some supporters stated that it was WP:CONCISE and a common title format (WP:CONSISTENT) (closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


The killing of the wife, daughter, and infant son of Mohammed DeifKilling of the Deif family – I feel this title is better due to WP:Precision, as it isn't necessary to state exactly what relation each of the casualties was to Mohammed Deif. TRCRF22 (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

somewhat oppose - I agree it should be shorter, but it needs to communicate that the father survived. We could use their names "the killing of Widad Asfoura, Sarah Deif, and Ali Deif" (the current title is from before I found Sarah's name). MWQs (talk) 23:16, 3 July 2024 (UTC) sock strike. – robertsky (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or if there's a "no the" policy, killing of Widad Asfoura, Sarah Deif, and Ali Deif. Sarah is sometimes referred to as "Sara Al-Masri" (her dad's birth name) and a few stories assume Widad took her husband's name Deif, but Widad Asfoura, Sarah Deif, and Ali Deif are the most recognisable names. Also "Ali Deif" is used very often in sources, whereas "Deif family" is uncommon. MWQs (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC) sock strike. – robertsky (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about Deif family killings? Killuminator (talk) 18:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Killuminator that sounds the wrong way around? That sounds like "Manson Family murders"? What's wrong with three names? Like Killing of Alon Shamriz, Yotam Haim, and Samer Talalka? MWQs (talk) 06:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC) sock strike. – robertsky (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"killing of the Deif family" is probably better. MWQs (talk) 06:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC) sock strike. – robertsky (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as in better than Deif family killings. MWQs (talk) 06:35, 5 July 2024 (UTC) sock strike. – robertsky (talk) 03:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to something along the lines of Killing of Widad Asfoura, Sarah Deif, and Ali Deif or Killing of the Deif family. If what MWQs said about Deif family not being well-supported in the sources is true, prefer the former. or Deif family killings, which I see after searching a bit for other examples is much more common of an article title format than "Killing/Murder of the (name) family". Kinsio (talkcontribsrights) 06:49, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.