Talk:David Bull (television presenter)

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Doctor who?

I have a concern about the current page name, David Bull (doctor).

Is it appropriate for "doctor" to be used as the disambiguation term for someone who does not even appear to be a fully qualified physician? While it's true that the subject is known as a 'television doctor' / author, I think use of that dab term here frames this politically relevant figure inappropriately, putting undue emphasis on his medical credentials by effectively claiming notability as a physician. 86.190.132.158 (talk) 07:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it's what's you've been looking for, but we have MOS:HONORIFICS that is very general about avoiding using titles in prose. On the other hand, it may sometimes be useful to tell the reader who someone is when citing their opinion, so the context matters. Of course, in a BLP of a full professor, even if not using Dr. everywhere in the text, the first sentence will generally specify this. I hope this helps, —Paleo Neonate – 09:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, since it's a title, my previous comment was out of scope: we have WP:NPOVTITLE, but sometimes to distinguish two articles we can add a descriptor. —Paleo Neonate – 09:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think that David Richard Bull would be a more appropriate article name personally. —Paleo Neonate – 09:53, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PaleoNeonate: Hum, how about WP:COMMONNAME. Personally, I'd suggest David Bull (television presenter) (or possibly David Bull (politician)). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 10:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I was also wondering about something like (television personality) too... I probably should have answered at the talk page to keep the discussion centralized, do you mind if I move the thread except your invitation? Also, if it's not contentious, we could boldly move and if reverted, we could start a formal move discussion... —Paleo Neonate – 10:23, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(messages moved here) —Paleo Neonate – 10:29, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...aha, I think WP:NCPDAB is the relevant general guideline. I also think I support boldly moving to "(television personality)", a dab term quite widely used on wikipedia [1], or "(television presenter)" (@PaleoNeonate: though I don't think I could do that as an ip editor :). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 10:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, let's wait for a third editor opinion until tomorrow perhaps, if noone objects or already moved the page then, I'll gladly do it. Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 10:54, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree (thanks PaleoNeonate!). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 11:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PaleoNeonate: I see the page has now already been renamed (by Opera hat) as 'David Bull (politician)' - that's ok by me. 86.190.132.158 (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I probably should have checked this talk page before doing it! I think being an elected MEP trumps any previous notability, so "politician" would be the most suitable qualifier. Opera hat (talk) 19:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Super, I also think that (polititian) is fine. Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 04:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There are these links that also could be fixed to avoid the redirect, but there are many and it may be best to wait a little to make sure the new name sticks... —Paleo Neonate – 04:40, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FYI I now have full registration and my license to practice medicine has been restored by the GMC in response to the Coronavirus pandemic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryfort (talk • contribs) 17:07, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 April 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 01:39, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David Bull (politician) → David Bull (television presenter) – David is not a politician. He was briefly when he was an MEP. He is a television presenter and broadcaster. www.davidbull.com . Harryfort (talk) 15:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 18:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've adjusted the RM to use lowercase in the disambiguator, as is our typical format. -- Netoholic @ 17:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Per lead. Agreed with Harryfort. Alex 22:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.