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On 25 July 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Apartheid (crime) to Crime of apartheid. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 25 July 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 00:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apartheid (crime) → Crime of apartheid – The main name for this topic should be the formal title of "crime of apartheid" to better distinguish and disambiguate it from Apartheid with a capital "A", i.e.: South African Apartheid. By having the page name phrased as Apartheid (crime), we display apartheid with a lower case "a" (the crime) as Apartheid with an upper case "A", which would be best avoided for clarity. Iskandar323 (talk) 14:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:13, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that big A and little a is a definitive rule as such but in any case, the proposed name is quite natural, we don't really need to disambiguate Selfstudier (talk) 14:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I probably should have cited WP:NCDAB, which, as you say, notes: "Natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation." So parenthetical disambiguation should only play as second fiddle to natural disambiguation, as and where necessary - and here it is clearly unnecessary. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:11, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, other pages related to Rome Statute crimes, see Crime of aggression, already follow this convention - making the case for consistency. Iskandar323 (talk) 15:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support as a valuable use of NATURALDIS to nudge editors towards greater clarity. I agree with Selfstudier that too much dependence should not be put on the case of the A/a. Quite independently of this RM, I hit upon the same expression as part of an alternative proposal at Talk:Israel and the apartheid analogy#Requested move 24 July 2022, where I think the proposed title, whatever the merits of the current one, is not clear. Srnec (talk) 17:18, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support due to preference for natural disambiguation and the current title sounding like it might be on historical South African apartheid. SnowFire (talk) 09:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.