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A fact from Civilized drama appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 January 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that critics argued that involving actresses in civilized drama would promote obscenity?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 10:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that critics argued that involving actresses in civilized drama would promote obscenity?

Source: Liu, Siyuan (2009). "Performing Gender at the Beginning of Modern Chinese Theatre". TDR: The Drama Review. 53 (2): 35–50. doi:10.1162/dram.2009.53.2.35. JSTOR 25599473. "In fact, wenmingxi's debate over the appropriateness of having actresses assume female roles essentially focused on the issue of citationality, with its supporters arguing that the practice was more natural than female impersonation and its opponents resorting to moralistic arguments that held that mixed-gender casting resulted in obscenity."

ALT1: ... that the civilized drama was used to promote revolution? Source: Zhong, Dafeng; Zhang, Zhen; Zhang, Yingjin (1997). "From Wenmingxi (Civilized Play) to Yingxi (Shadowplay): The Foundation of Shanghai Film Industry in the 1920s". Asian Cinema. 9 (1): 46–64. doi:10.1386/ac.9.1.46_1.
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adrenal crisis, Template:Did you know nominations/Peanut (squirrel)

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 715 past nominations.

— Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:36, 30 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll be reviewing this shortly. Silver seren^C 04:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article was moved to mainspace on the 30th, so is new enough. At over 7000 characters, it is more than long enough. The copyvio detector can't seem to do much with these sources, but my spot-checks seem to show no issues off-hand. I assume good faith on those I can't access, including the quotes presented for the hook sources above. The hooks presented are interesting, though I find the main hook to be the preferable one for interesting-ness. Both are cited in-line in the article and the article as a whole properly uses in-line citations and reads neutrally. Both QPQs have been done and everything looks good to go. On a personal note, Crisco 1492, I do hope you end up making an article on huaju in the future as well, because that also seems quite interesting. Silver seren^C 04:47, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's the plan! It's prominent enough to have a Britannica article, so it is definitely worth it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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the genre emerged in the late 1910s ... The genre peaked in 1917 Sounds like its emergence and peak were simultaneous. Is this what is meant? Srnec (talk) 07:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From reading the body section, it sounds like it should say "early 1910s", since it was 1911 that it really started being used. Silver seren^C 07:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was a brain fart on my part. Fixed. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]