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relevant paragraphs
[edit]The relevant paragraphs in Suez Canal are more detailed than this article. --AHert (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- The French version fr:Canal des pharaons has a lot more information in, but I'm not sure that it has enough explicit references. When I get time, I might try to translate some information for the English page, but the guy who did the map for it also speaks English, so perhaps we can get him involved too? NearlyDrNash (talk) 00:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Possible ref
[edit]ROME'S TREMENDOUS TUNNEL - The Ancient World's Longest Underground Aqueduct By Matthias Schulz (03/11/2009)SPIEGEL ONLINE
Sept 2009 edits/class=Start
[edit]I just got the typos, etc out of the article, and a lead in sentence that had issues. Changing from "stub" because of the historical references, to Start class. (from the SonoranHOTdesert, ArizonaUSA...) ...Mmcannis (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Name change
[edit]That was a bit high-handed, and the article no longer even mentions 'Canal of the Pharaohs', which is actually the most common name in Google Books and Google Scholar and a normal Google search. I can't see any justification for this. Dougweller (talk) 05:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- I don't dispute that "Canal of the Pharaohs" may be more common (although I haven't checked it yet), since this there is article of this name. But I find the name still unsuitable for two reasons:
- How can the canal be named after the Pharaohs when it is far from certain that it was ever opened by any of them? As it stands, there is only a single source which appears to attribute the finished canal to a pharaoh (Necho II): Herodotus, and even here another passage in his works seems to suggest the opposite.
- By contrast, four ancient writers mention the canal in service under the Greeks and Romans: Strabo, Diodorus Siculus, Pliny the Elder, and Ptolemy. Therefore, I believe it is better to name the canal after its function, to be more inclusive. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 09:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- That is all original research, have you read WP:Article titles? The secion on common names says "Articles are normally titled using the most common English-language name of the subject of the article. In determining what this name is, we follow the usage ofreliable sources, such as those used as references for the article." Dougweller (talk) 10:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Then feel free to move it back. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 10:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Question of Completion
[edit]- Darius, King of Persia, continued work on a Suez canal which had been started by Pharaoh Nechos c. 600 BC, Herodotos 2.158. It was perhaps uncompleted at his death (an inscription is ambiguous as to whether it was or was not completed). Ptolemy II Philadelphos completed or renovated it early in the C3 (DS 1.33.11), and Trajan refurbished it in AD 98. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 18:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
When was it built
[edit]When was it built — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.110.9.214 (talk) 23:29, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Sesostris?
[edit]this page is referenced from a page on King Sesostiris/Senusret (1878 BC to 1839 BC) which says he built the canal of the pharos. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Senusret_III
There's an unaccountd 1200 year differenc between that page and here as to when the canal was built.
The earlier date seems agreed to by Richard Pankhurst in "The Ethiopians, A History" Blackwell Publishing. And he cites, Brested 1905 pp183-4 "A History of Egypt"
btw Also, this article mentions a difference in height. Which was higher, the nile or the red sea? 12.157.110.195 (talk) 14:23, 17 February 2016 (UTC)dkemper
- Can't answer the latter, but I will fix the Sesostris thing. He didn't build it.[1] and[2] Brested was going on ancient texts, but the archaeology says otherwise. Doug Weller talk 17:05, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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