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Problem sentence in lede, part 2

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The following lede-placed sentence has no body text to support it, and makes no sense itself, as explained above. Please remove it.

In December 2014, the murderers of Manolis Kapelonis and Giorgos Fountoulis, along with three other terrorists, were outlawed for 1 million euros from the government of Greece.

71.234.215.133 (talk) 09:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've mentioned what is included in the sources in Problem sentence in lead. It is not in the policy of Wikipedia to remove information based on reliable sources. Would you argue for a rephrase of the statement and its placement under Political Reactions, where I personally believe it belongs? --Tco03displays (talk) 04:53, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not read Greek, so cannot verify what the resources say; thus, I can only propose deletion of what borders on gibberish. If you do not want the sentence deleted, please use the {{edit protected}} template and ask for both a new section/paragraph somewhere in the body, and a lede replacement sentence summarizing that section. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 10:02, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't care less of that sentence. I consider it rather uneeded. I simply commented in order to help out in regards to the problems you mentioned, since you can't read Greek, and nor can most editors on Wikipedia.--Tco03displays (talk) 16:10, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You do not care if it stays, but you say it must stay because it is based on reliable sources, even though it does not summarize anything from the body of the article and is senseless in and of itself. You will not offer your own section/edit, essentially leaving it to me to take your word for what those "reliable sources" are actually saying. No. It is up to you to ask for the "rephrase of the statement and its placement under Political Reactions" as it will be your edit. I cannot read Greek and can only ask for deletion of a nonsensical English sentence that fails to summarize any part of the body. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 17:54, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that I've been at an edit war with Katcheic for quite a long time over this article, and even such little information change is meant to restart it. If you are supporting the deletion of the information, I might as well add that I support this view as well, for different reasons. I think this not the sort o information you need in an article like this.--Tco03displays (talk) 00:55, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, what is exactly the disagreement?--Katcheic (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

71.234.215.133 states the the specific sentence doesn't make sense, and doesn't belong in the lead section. I would agree, it belongs in the political reactions section because it came after the incident, and it doesn't sound too good in English the way it is phrased. However I do not know how else to phrase it - they are outlawed, that is, they have a price on their heads. These are too wild west terms and don't belong in a Wikipedia article, so I have no alternative to the current phrasing.--Tco03displays (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is no exactly phrase in english --Katcheic (talk) 15:12, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I suspect too, I've been looking it up. --Tco03displays (talk) 15:25, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this the same as the FBI offering rewards for their ten most wanted criminals? Dolescum (talk) 13:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! That's exactly the phrasing we needed. Thank you. I've made the appropriate corrections and moved the sentence under political reactions. --Tco03displays (talk) 09:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I've changed the protection to move-protection rather than full protection, so you should all be able to edit it now. Please try and avoid edit warring, or I may reinstate the full protection. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I think I have improved this article a little. I will continue to work on it and currently would like to bump it up from Start-Class to C-Class. Is there any objections or things that glare out from the page currently? Regards. SP00KYtalk 23:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Location

Using "420 Heraklion Avenue" ("Leof. Irakliou 420") per [1], a source from the Greek Wikipedia article czar 17:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]