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Requested move 16 June 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 05:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


An American Anarchist: The Life of Voltairine de Cleyre → An American Anarchist – Per WP:SUBTITLE. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 05:30, 16 June 2020 (UTC)—Relisted. – Ammarpad (talk) 07:23, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 08:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Much better known as Avrich's biography of de Cleyre than by the title "An American Anarchist", which also introduces ambiguity. The linked subtitles guideline recommends using the full title with subtitle as a form of natural disambiguation. czar 22:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – the subtitle isn't being used "as a form of natural disambiguation" here because there's nothing to disambiguate, i.e. nothing else notable known by this name. We're not required to consider, when titling articles, all possible things with a given name, just those that are covered in the encyclopaedia. So the subtitle can be omitted (in which case a hatnote for American Anarchist would doubtless be useful). – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    It's disambiguating from "an American anarchist", which is a common phrase but the natural dab point aside, the full title is still the most common one. Per the sources, most will search for this title as Avrich's de Cleyre book, not as "An American Anarchist". This is a case where the subtitle is important to identifying the subject. czar 14:43, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Czar, this one needs the full name to distinguish it from similarly named pages and phrases. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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