Talk:Allan Walters

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Reviewer: Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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the New Guinea theatre I don't like this term. The theatre was SWPA.
- Fair enough, I was looking to work the New Guinea campaign link in, but I guess we could just say "New Guinea area"...
based in New Guinea Any idea where his headquarters actually was?
- Odgers reports it as Madang in mid-1944 and then never refers to the HQ's location again. Given its whole point was as a static area command, I guess we can assume it was still there during Walters' term as AOC, which started six months later.

Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:23, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tks for reviewing, Hawkeye. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

revert of extra text in |page= parameter

Editor Ian Rose reverted my edit with the edit summary Rv good faith edit -- wanted the "p." to display, it doesn't add redundant text with this template. I had changed |page=p. 6 to |page=6 and |page=p. 3 to |page=3.

{{cite journal}} is 'optimized' for academic journals where volume, issue, and page(s) are all grouped together without the 'p.' and 'pp.' prefixes. Here is one of the {{cite journal}} templates in question:

{{cite journal|title=34 years service ends|work=RAAF News, Vol. 4, No. 4|date=May 1962|page=p. 6}}

"34 years service ends". RAAF News, Vol. 4, No. 4: p. 6. May 1962. {{cite journal}}: |page= has extra text (help)

There are a couple of flaws in the way these citations were written but first, look at the '4' preceding 'p. 6' of the rendered citation. The colon following the 4 is the extra text to which my edit summary referred. Yeah, I know, hardly noticeable, but the extra 'p. ' is redundant to the colon and contaminates the citation's metadata.

Volume and issue number are not part of a journal's title so moving them to their own parameters provides clean metadata and groups them with the page number(s). Correctly written, journal citations look like this:

{{cite journal |title=34 years service ends |journal=RAAF News |volume=4 |issue=4 |date=May 1962 |page=6}}

"34 years service ends". RAAF News. 4 (4): 6. May 1962.

{{cite journal |title=Service funeral for AVM |journal=RAAF News |volume=10 |issue=11 |date=December 1968 |page=3}}

"Service funeral for AVM". RAAF News. 10 (11): 3. December 1968.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I agree as far as volume and issue go, and will remove them from the title; they are not in fact necessary to identify the issue as there was only one issue per month at this time in the publication's history. As far as page number goes, I think it is far easier for the average reader (and I include myself -- I'm a WP user as well as editor!) to understand numbers in citations when they are consistently prefaced by something identifying just what they mean, as we would in a newspaper citation for instance. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:17, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then you should use {{cite news}}:

{{cite news |title=34 years service ends |journal=RAAF News |date=May 1962 |page=6}}

"34 years service ends". RAAF News. May 1962. p. 6.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me (anything for a quiet life)...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 00:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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