Talk:African People's Socialist Party

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Page Bias Balance restored

This party seemed to have been written by the PR team of Uhuru, and it lacks unbiased balance. I just went through and added the balance. Many of the positive things on the page are still unsourced and that may need to be dealt with. There is much to be expanded upon in this page, especially on the party's actual ideology and some of the controversial things they have said in the past, so far there is only one or two quotes. VisaBlack (talk) 03:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AFRICAN INTERNATIONALISM (Sidebox & top lines)

This party is not anti-imperialist. They specify they are instead 'anti-colonialist'. They are also not pan-africanist, they deny that term and use their own African Internationalism. VisaBlack (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources for flag

https://www.theburningspear.com/2016/11/Chairman-Omali-Yeshitela-Addresses-the-African-Nation-The-Democrats-lost-but-the-African-Peoples-Socialist-Party-won https://uhurusolidarity.org/2016/07/17/the-lines-are-drawn-white-solidarity-with-black-power-now/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/cronncc/4292944675/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xophe84 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Merge (non-admin closure) Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 19:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I strongly suggest merging the Uhuru Movement article into this APSP article. The two organizations are virtually inseparable, led by the same person, and their combined history would be much more easily understood in one article. SocDoneLeft (talk) 05:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Based on the articles, there are no other major figures or organisations involved in the "movement" other than the APSP. The "Uhuru Movement" is just a sort of marketing vehicle for the APSP. It doesn't have notability district from that of the APSP. CeltBrowne (talk) 18:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

source for Russophilia?

Could someone please give a citation for how the APsP is Russophilic. Not just a statement of "they have links to Russia" as that does not mean their ideology is Russophilic. If all we have is the former, then it should be stated in the lede/main body. But not the ideology section.

@WeaponizingArchitecture you re-added the ideology so do you have a source for this ?_? Genabab (talk) 01:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[18] and [19] in the inditement section sources that the party supports the Invasion of Ukraine. ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 02:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can't see any source that uses the term "Russophilia". It appears to be an editor's opinion of the group's ideology. The same applies to "far-left" which I have removed. Burrobert (talk) 13:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Burrobert Doesn't that mean Russophilia should also be removed? Genabab (talk) 11:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be removed. I was waiting to see if a consensus developed in this discussion. Burrobert (talk) 13:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Burrobert Would you say consesus has been established? Especially if no sources say they are Russophiles Genabab (talk) 14:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would wait a few days to see if anyone else is interested or if WeaponizingArchitecture has more to add. Burrobert (talk) 12:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think "Russophilia" fits because again, they support the russian invasion of ukraine outright. There really isn't any dodgy "we just dont like naytoe expanshon" here; there are 2 sources citing the russophilia position. ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 21:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Supporting a particular invasion is not an ideology. According to Wikipedia "Russophilia is the admiration and fondness of Russia (including the era of the Soviet Union and/or the Russian Empire), Russian history, and Russian culture". Burrobert (talk) 05:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's been almost a month with no response to this. I think we can make the edit now Genabab (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for Merge closure?

What was the reason for closing the proposed merge of the Uhuru Movement into the African People's Socialist Party article? I'm confused. Does that mean the proposal is abandoned? Or that merging can begin? Mbcoats (talk) 16:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mbcoats: When a merge proposal is closed it means a decision has been made either because consensus has been reached (participants are in agreement) or because there hasn't been opposition raised against the proposal for a good duration (usually a week or two). The closed discussion says "Merge" in the top-right, meaning that anyone can start the merger if they want to. Yue🌙 00:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]