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Peaceray (talk) 18:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Azov Battalion

I have started a discussion in which you may care to comment at [[1]] Cheers Elinruby (talk) 01:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry? Genabab (talk) 22:11, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan

This would definitely be one to post at Talk:Taiwan before doing it again. John (talk) 14:39, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please join the discussion over the talk page, there are countless discussions and plenty of reason over the issue you just raise. If you still do not agree with the previous consensus or any decision made from the past discussions, then it is welcome for you to make a request through the talk by asking the community to revisit the issue. Do not just impose your own version of POV edits before making a major change to the topic. LVTW2 (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

woops, sorry. Didn't know such a thing existed. I did see the warnings of "don't say that it's not a country" so I tried to specify that it's only a partially recognised one Genabab (talk) 16:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you opinion is, the Wikipedia tends to make the issue impartial and account for many sides of the topic, which is what the discussion is essential to make any major change, any of the description is not decided by myself, the consensus should be made through a general discussion, compromised by several attendants among the Wikipedia community, and which is important for you to understand that. LVTW2 (talk) 16:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I saw similar states like Kosovo be recognised as partially recognised, so I didn't think it'd be seen as a matter of opinion. Genabab (talk) 17:08, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

David Pakman

I appreciate your enthusiasm on the David Pakman article, but the way Wikipedia operates is such that Wikipedia:Reliable sources are used to inform what content goes on articles (see also Wikipedia:No original research), and while it is true that Pakman is parroting far-right talking points on Latin American politics, there is a distinction between that and whether it is included in a Wikipedia article.

In this case, until there are news articles or the like discussing it, it shouldn't be included. (Besides, The David Pakman Show is probably the better article for such additions to occur in anyways). aismallard (talk) 09:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, I understand that youtube isn't usually a reliable source as it's not academic. But I still don't entirely understand how that applies here, because it *is* Pakman's own channel.

Though, I do get the wider point of if this needs to be included. Which is fair enough. Genabab (talk) 10:48, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Could I ask what this is for? RSF in South Sudan? The Cardiacs edit for Victory Egg? If it's the former I assumed that the statements and content of linked articles were source enough? Genabab (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourcing

@Genabab re: Special:Diff/1172809649, sources and citations are always necessary in all articles. It is not acceptable to make readers look for sources in linked articles, which if Wikipedia worked that way, could send them to yet other linked articles for its sources. Articles cannot depend on one another, let alone like this. –Vipz (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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In what way is asking questions about the arguments raised a bad thing? Genabab (talk) 09:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2024

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Battle of Beit Hanoun. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. UtoD 16:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same issue on Russia here, you need to provide clear references. Not just insert information saying "whatever source supports it". Wikipedia articles are not WP:RS. TylerBurden (talk) 18:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

sorryyyyyyy, I got a bit lazy... I'll add it with the source >_> Genabab (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved

Just wanted to make sure you're aware that the discussion you participated in at Talk:Palestinian genocide accusation § Estimate of future deaths was moved to Talk:Israel–Hamas war § Indirect casualties from the Lancet study. Kinsio (talk ★ contribs ★ rights) 02:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on Eilat

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@Steven Homan ok Genabab (talk) 10:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I'm Manyareasexpert. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Azov Brigade, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. [2] - ~~the source says "second" incident and you inserted "third".~~ The source is not saying "Azov members" as your edit is. [3] - the source is not saying "Azov members" as your edit is. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 09:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Manyareasexpert

> the source says "second" incident and you inserted "third".

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-far-right-vigilantes-destroy-another-romany-camp-in-kyiv/29280336.html

"The Holosiyivskiy camp attack follows three others within the past month and a half."

> The source is not saying "Azov members" as your edit is.

Yes it is. It says Azov members, Azov veterans, or groups affiliated with Azov...

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-far-right-vigilantes-destroy-another-romany-camp-in-kyiv/29280336.html

"The National Druzhyna, a militia formed in January by veterans of the far-right Azov Battalion,"

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2019-02-23/ty-article/.premium/inside-the-extremist-group-that-dreams-of-ruling-ukraine/0000017f-e191-d568-ad7f-f3fb4be40000

"Over the past year, Azov-affiliated groups have assaulted activists, forcibly shut down drug rehabilitation clinics and violently ejected Roma (or “Gypsy scum,” as they called them) from camps."

etc....

Is that enough to revert the changes without causing an edit war? Genabab (talk) 09:45, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"The Holosiyivskiy camp attack follows three others within the past month and a half.""
Agree

> The source is not saying "Azov members" as your edit is.
Yes it is. It says Azov members, Azov veterans, or groups affiliated with Azov...
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-far-right-vigilantes-destroy-another-romany-camp-in-kyiv/29280336.html
"The National Druzhyna, a militia formed in January by veterans of the far-right Azov Battalion,"
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2019-02-23/ty-article/.premium/inside-the-extremist-group-that-dreams-of-ruling-ukraine/0000017f-e191-d568-ad7f-f3fb4be40000
"Over the past year, Azov-affiliated groups have assaulted activists, forcibly shut down drug rehabilitation clinics and violently ejected Roma (or “Gypsy scum,” as they called them) from camps."
These are not Azov but "Azov-affiliated groups". ManyAreasExpert (talk) 10:39, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Manyareasexpert Why does that not merit inclusion? Genabab (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source is not saying "Azov and Azov affiliated groups" as your edit is [4] . ManyAreasExpert (talk) 16:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ManyareasexpertIn that case, can we at least agree to restore the part that talks about three attacks Genabab (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

it is there [5] . ManyAreasExpert (talk) 21:30, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Rambling RamblerWhat incorrect information are you talking about? As i stated in the edit, no source was provided for anything in the edit, nor could I find any by looking up the various IMT chapters. If you know some place where this information can be found, please do just let me know about it :/ Genabab (talk) 08:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: Nevermind, I see that the source you were using was their page listed on "claimed members". Apologies for letting that go under the radar :^( Genabab (talk) 08:42, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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September 2024 (2)

You ~~currently appear to be~~ were engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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@Mathglot Could I ask what it is you're reffering to? There were some edit clashes yesterday but now they are being debated in the talk page, so this does not apply Genabab (talk) 09:27, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've redacted "currently" as you are no longer edit warring at that article (the one I linked above). It applies in the sense that edit-warring is never the right path to improving an article, and it sounds like you are aware of that now, so all is good; carry on. Mathglot (talk) 09:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Azov Brigade. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Diffs: [7], [8], [9], [10]. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ManyareasexpertI would not call reverting an edit outside of the only part of the edit which Lute88 objected to an "edit war", would you? Doubly so if I then tell them that I reverted the edit, but NOT including the part they wanted removed to begin with. Genabab (talk) 19:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "revert" is defined as any edit (or administrative action) that reverses or undoes the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material, and whether performed using undo, rollback, or done so completely manually. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 20:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Manyareasexpert You're not telling me how this is supposed to be "edit warring" when we both know it isnt. I just reverted the parts of the edit that Lute88 did not object to. WHat is the problem here? Genabab (talk) 20:51, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heads-up

Hi Genabab, I've taken the liberty to move your RfC !vote from earlier today to the appropriate section: [11] It had somehow ended up above the "Survey" section rather than in it. Hope that is okay. Regards and happy editing, Andreas JN 466 16:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Viewsridge I have made my reply on the page. Please read it so you may understand the other perspective Genabab (talk) 16:37, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There's quite a few of these from this AE report, so I'll try and keep it quick with the assumption that you read the contents of the report. Edit warring is not acceptable, even if 1RR or 3RR are not violated. If you are being reverted then take it to the talk page and engage in dispute resolution. Don't use poor quality sources anywhere, but especially when editing contentious topics. Lastly, just because something can be verified does not mean it is fit for inclusion. WP:DUEWEIGHT is determined by coverage in reliable secondary sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hmm ok. The sources are Kurdish journalists but I can see they are yet to publish them. I'll wait until they do. Genabab (talk) 23:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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