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Did you know... that the Adiyogi Shiva statue is the world's tallest bust of the Hindu god Shiva?

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Image request

Can someone who's better than me at uploading please upload a free-use image of the real statue, which is quite impressive. The infobox image now is of a smaller version, and may be used in the body of the text unless further images are available. Thanks. Randy Kryn 20:11, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 April 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page as proposed at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 23:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adiyogi Shiva statue → Adiyogi Shiva sculpture – This work of art arguably does not meet the definition of statue, but is instead a bust sculpture. Hadron137 (talk) 23:30, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Still a statue. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I agree it is still a statue. Sculpture usually has a connotation of much smaller scale. Convention for such mammoth creation is to use the word "statue". For example Statue of Liberty, Christ the Redeemer (statue) and many more. No further discussion needed, please revoke/remove the proposal. PS: I am unrelated to the above editors and this is my first time ever on this article. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 08:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME [1][2]. Don't see any significant results for the proposed name. My Lord (talk) 09:44, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Expanding the lead

Qualitist, Based on your edit summary here it appears to me that you are not familair with MOS:LEAD please read that page and understand that the lead section needs the content in the article. After reading that page, I suggest you to self revert yourself to restore my edits on Adiyogi_Shiva_statue. If you have concerns about particular edit please let me know here. also I have no idea what you mean by DTCP so you should clarify that.--DBig Xrayᗙ 14:35, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have waited for more than a year if anyone has any objections. No one bothered to respond and take objections here. Accordingly I have added these edits per MOS:LEAD. --Happy New Year! ᗙ DBig Xrayᗙ 17:58, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statue?

But, the subject is not a statue... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another Believer, what do you mean ? Happy New Year! ᗙ DBig Xrayᗙ 17:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DBigXray, The artwork appears to be a bust, not a statue. To me, a statue is a full-length figure of a person or animal. A bust shows just the upper part. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another Believer, Thank you for clarifying. Agree that this is a bust. But I dont know if it is "also" classified as a statue or not. I lack the technical knowledge of this domain. Happy New Year! ᗙ DBig Xrayᗙ 15:53, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DBigXray, I mean, technically no, this is not a statue, but I understand we based our wording on how subjects are described by secondary coverage. Bust or sculpture is more accurate, IMO. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:23, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ham II: Penny for your thoughts? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:24, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 July 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adiyogi Shiva statue → Bust of Shiva, Coimbatore – Per WP:VAMOS, which says, "For portrait sculptures of individuals in public places the forms "Statue of Fred Foo", "Equestrian statue of Fred Foo" or "Bust of Fred Foo" are recommended, unless a form such as "Fred Foo Memorial" or "Monument to Fred Foo" is the WP:COMMONNAME. If further disambiguation is needed, because there is more than one sculpture of the same person with an article, then disambiguation by location rather than the sculptor is usually better. This may be done as either "Statue of Fred Foo (Chicago)" (typically preferred for North America) or "Statue of Fred Foo, Glasgow" (typically preferred elsewhere). If the sculpture has a distinct common name, like the Bronze Horseman, that should be used. Examples: Statue of Mahatma Gandhi (Houston); Statue of Queen Victoria, Sydney; Jefferson Davis Monument; Equestrian statue of Christian V." The sculpture is a bust, not a statue. --Another Believer _(Talk) 13:33, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as this is a theme-named statue, not just a focus on the overall topic of Shiva. Adiyogi means "the first yogi" and the named statue specifically honors the practice of yoga and its origin. The Shiva lead states "Shiva is also known as Adiyogi Shiva, regarded as the patron god of yoga, meditation and arts", strongly indicating that this page is correctly named. Plus per sources, common name, real name, etc. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose WP:COMMONNAME [3].--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 11:50, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.