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History merge

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@Fourthords: I don't think it matters that this article was written "independently of any other article(s)". Shawn Nelson (criminal) was unilaterally blanked and a new article was created, leaving the 600+ edits to the old page and Talk:Shawn Nelson (criminal) and its archives almost inaccessible. I was actually looking for the old history myself when I realized it didn't exist anymore, and that can be quite confusing. — Nythar (💬-🍀) 12:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia:History merging, that process is for when other editors' contributions are wholesale copied-and-pasted to another page, breaking the licensing-required attribution. That wasn't done here. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 13:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, alright then. Thanks for explaining. — Nythar (💬-🍀) 13:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tank Speed

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This is a minor quibble, however in the "Armory" section it states that the M60A3 can travel at speeds up to 45mph. There is no type of M60 that could travel at that speed over flat terrain, and the speed cited contradicts both the wiki article on the M60 and various sources including Hunnicutt's work on the Patton series of tanks. 2600:6C56:5B00:33B:B826:533D:5D2E:C876 (talk) 02:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's currently citing The New York Times for that information (which is precisely quoted as M-60A3 tanks, like the one the man commandeered, can reach speeds of 45 miles an hour and travel almost 300 miles on a full tank of gas.), which is in turn sourcing an officer at that armory. That source (and subsequently the NYT) may also be referring to iterations, extremes, versions, loadouts, or any number of other variables applicable to the tanks held at that particular location. Since this article is about this specific event, I think it's better to cite contemporary and event-specific sources which may refer to unique factors here. Does that make sense? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 02:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox photo of Shawn Nelson

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File:Shawn Nelson Army.jpg

The current infobox photo of Shawn Nelson is currently a black-and-white high school photo from 1976. I recently located his Army photo and uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons (File:Shawn Nelson Army.jpg). The Army photo is in color, has higher resolution, and is more recent; therefore, I feel it is a better photo for his infobox. I feel that his high school photo could be kept as a thumbnail in the article. Does anyone object to changing the infobox photo to the Army photo? Thanks! Wikipedialuva (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not only are neither Medium nor Charles Joseph Berkey III reliable sources for attributing this photo, there's no blanket assumption that military photos (especially training photos) are US military productions (for examples, see c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jack Teixeira (JPEG version).jpg, c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Travis King.webp, and c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Monica Elfriede Witt in uniform.jpg). — Fourthords | =Λ= | 18:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 July 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: withdrawn (non-admin closure)Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


1995 San Diego tank rampageSan Diego tank rampage – From my research, there's only been one tank rampage in San Diego, and WP:PRECISE says, Usually, titles should unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but should be no more precise than that.Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Fourthords Oppose move. Per WP:NCE, In the majority of cases, the title of the article should contain the following three descriptors:
When the incident happened.
Where the incident happened.
What happened.
They only don't contain the year when the incident is well known enough that common name takes precedent. This is not there yet. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Nowhere in the text of Wikipedia:Article titles does it mention or link to such, and certainly not from #Precision. I have withdrawn this request IAW Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events)#Conventions. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.