Talk:Öræfajökull
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Which is higher?
[edit]I'm a little confused by some of the recent changes by an IP regarding the elevations of Öræfajökull and Hvannadalshnúkur. Can someone explain it to me please. I have sources such as this [1] which differ from what we have in the article now. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 01:43, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
I also have this source that gives a different elevation but still states Hvannadalshnúkur as the island high point. I am again reverting the IP for now the second time until we can get some clarifications on all this. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 21:33, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
OK, I think I have a grasp on what is going on now. We have sources that give two different elevations 2119 m and 2110 m for Hvannadalshnúkur. These sources also both state Hvannadalshnúkur is the high point of the island/volcano; it is the peak on the Öræfajökull's caldera rim that happens to be the highest point and has its own name.
We also have this source which gives 2119 m for the volcano Öræfajökull.
In addition to all this we have an unsourced statement in the Hvannadalshnúkur article which reads: "An official measurement completed in August 2005 established its height as 2,109.6 metres (6,921 ft)[citation needed] (previously set as 2,119 m (6,952 ft))."
I think the IP has confused all this and is thinking Hvannadalshnúkur has somehow lost its highpoint status and now the entire volcano is the highest point. The IP has also made several erroneous changes regarding the prominence of the two peaks, their ranking as 1 and 2 on the island including dropping another peak down from second to third in its ranking based his confused interpretation of all this. The IP has also made several other various changes to these articles, some of which make sense, some do not...at all! I have reverted all of them until this is cleared up. I have attempted to contact the IP, no response so far.
Anyone agree with all this, or am I the one who has has it all screwed up? In any case, I have reverted the IPs changes to stable version, but we still need a source for the "official" '05 measurement.
This is a good example why it may not be the best idea to have separate articles on an entire mountain and on its highest point. Will likely propose a merge in the near future. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 23:10, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- I'm no expert when it comes to Iceland volcanoes but I would just go by whatever reliable sources say. Volcanoguy 11:11, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have found several sources that support the 2,109.6 elevation and most also mention the 2005 measurement. Here are a couple I may use [2] and [3]. One of the sources that give the 2119 m elevation, Peaklist (usually very reliable), says the information was last updated in '04, before the latest measurement. The other that I mentioned giving 2119 m, the GVP source, I think we can safely assume has also simply not yet been updated.
- The good news is that I only have to fill in the refs for the current elevations given in both articles, which I will be doing shortly. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 04:16, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- Done. Volcanoguy or anyone else, do you think the two pages Öræfajökull and Hvannadalshnúkur should be merged? --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 04:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- no objection to merging these, I guess leave the main article as oraefajokull with a redirect from hvannadalshnukur EdwardLane (talk) 12:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
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