Category talk:Triller (company)

This category was nominated for deletion on 22 August 2024. The result of the discussion was rename.

Trout yourselves

Category:Triller

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Triller (company) and {{trout}} Thecleanerand for moving the category before this discussion concluded. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 06:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Triller (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Nomination for Isoceles-sai who requested this at the Teahouse. C F A 💬 16:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The category makes no sense. It collects a disparate collection of pages with nothing in common; there is no text to explain what the category is about. Isoceles-sai (talk) 16:27, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At least purge the boxing matches, these articles are not about the company. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose: Says the people who CLEARLY didn't even bother to read these articles!
Triller isn't just an app anymore, it's become a sports media company that owns Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship, Thuzio, and the former FITE TV.

They were the main promoters of Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr., Jake Paul vs. Ben Askren, and Evander Holyfield vs. Vitor Belfort (the latter two under the TRILLER Fight Club banner).

Finally, they used to own Verzuz before getting involved with a lawsuit from its creators, and ultimately selling it back to them. That issue (like so many controversies Triller has been involved in) has also become part of the company's history.

Also: "there is no text to explain what the category is about". You mean like how almost EVERY OTHER CATEGORY PAGE has "no text" to explain what they're about? Even then, the only explanation needed is IN THE TITLE of the category pages. Forgive me for assuming the average user (or editor) was smart enough to figure even that out.

How about I go and add that "text" to the page, while you two go and do something productive for a change? Thecleanerand (talk) 21:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Something else. If not deleted, the category should be renamed to Category:Triller (company), per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the renaming. Great suggestion. Isoceles-sai (talk) 15:14, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This category has been emptied prematurely. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:27, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: the articles have been prematurely moved to a new Category:Triller (company). As an admin, you are presumably entitled to revert that. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marcocapelle:" the category should be renamed to Category:Triller (company)".

I've also added a description of the subject as suggested. I've complied with all issues, and I've more than made my case for why this page shouldn't be deleted. Thecleanerand (talk) 13:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thecleanerand: my opinion was and still is that Category:Triller should be renamed, but of course only after and based on consensus in this discussion. I certainly did not mean that a new category should be unilaterally created before the discussion has been closed. It is very unhelpful to undertake this sort of action while the discussion is still ongoing. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No.
What's "unhelpful" is an admin making me wait 3 DAYS to end a discussion that should have NEVER been started in the first place. Thecleanerand (talk) 00:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- A discussion at this platform stays open for at least 7 days by default. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete We don't usually list templates in categories (which is better at this purpose than a cat), and this isn't a defining characteristic of any of the articles as a whole. And the description added is way too long and reads as WP:PROMO; if this is kept it needs to be shortened to basics like a short title description. Nate • (chatter) 20:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now so reduced. Nate • (chatter) 21:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Nah, HouseBlaster. How about you, and everyone else go {{trout}} yourself?

Isoceles-sai, {{trout}} yourself for wasting my time opening that this discussion when you DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WIKIPEDIA WORKS!

Marcocapelle, {{trout}} yourself the same reason, especially because as someone who "has been on Wikipedia for 11 years, 4 months and 23 days" YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER

"MrSchimpf", {{trout}} yourself because:

"Isoceles-sai: there is no text to explain what the category is about"

I've also added a description of the subject as suggested

"MrSchimpf": and the description added is way too long and reads as WP:PROMO"

But really, {{trout}} yourself in-general

And every single one of you irresponsible "admins" can {{trout}} yourselves too. ESPECIALLY Liz; "Ms. I'm experiencing significant stress that affects my ability to work on Wikipedia and might choose to avoid complicated tasks or areas prone to conflict."

You hypocrites are so drunk on the power you frequently abuse that you don't even realize the biggest problem with Wikipedia is YOU. You made me wait a WHOLE WEEK before closing a discussion that should have NEVER been started in the first place, and you want to "trout" ME?

THIS is why I don't respect any of you. This is why NOBODY outside Wikipedia respects you (and I'm not talking about the gloried bigots and conspiracy theorists of "The Third Right", who can also {{trout}} themselves). As long as this website is governed by glorified Facebook users, it will continue to be an overrated bureaucracy of overly-sensitive megalomaniacs cherishing the textbook definition of misinformation for school kids who are too lazy to fact check and verify a Wikipedia page with little to no citations or sources than do actual research. Thecleanerand (talk) 16:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussions at CFD last a week. The D in CFD stands for "discussion", not deletion: if you want to rename a category, you have to go through CFD. And discussions on Wikipedia last at least a week so everyone regardless of their schedule can have a chance to comment. If you want to get that changed, the village pump is the place to get that changed. Best, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 17:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]