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Forgive me, but under the third-to-last item, shouldn't that be Stephen Harrison? (As a fellow holder of the name I am always incredibly sensitive to correct spellings. :-) ) Also, as I recall, Lane Raspberry was also on the program. I tried to listen - WAMU is my hometown NPR station, after all - but as it was during the workday I wasn't able to get much. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're quite right. I've corrected the author spelling. * Bri (talk) 18:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, you misspelled Lane Rasberry's name, itself originating in an ancestral misspelling. :) Ijon (talk) 18:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ijon: Hey, look, do I come in here and correct your spelling? Well...evidently I do, but that's beside the point.

(This is what comes of freebasing when I should have my sources in front of me. *sigh* When will I learn?)*

Apologies to all involved for the error.

_{*Never. The answer is never.}

--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the International Boxing Association, the XY chromosome test result is correct, as reported in multiple media sources: [1] etc. The IOC chose to disregard the IBA test, but considering that the IBA are the only ones who tested for this, it seems quite biased to state the exact opposite as a fact. AnonMoos (talk) 00:42, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe @Oltrepier: wrote that section, so I'll let them answer if any details are needed. The best short answer is IMHO

The are 1000s of words at Talk:Imane Khelif which I hope we won't expend over here.
The International Boxing Association is not held in much esteem these days, having been "de-recognized" (or whatever the correct word is) by the International Olympic Committee.
IBA didn't publish the genetic results (as far as I can tell), and
Genetic results aren't always conclusive, in any case, according to the BBC

But this isn't something we can solve on this page, see my 1st point. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 01:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice -- the IBA can't release the full lab results without violating medical legal privacy rights. The Algerian and Taiwanese boxers could release the results if they wanted to, but have chosen not to. Meanwhile, none of this changes the fact that the IBA was the only entity which tested for chromosomes, and they reported XY. Confidently asserting that XY is impossible goes far beyond ordinary "original research" into constructing a parallel fantasy world. AnonMoos (talk) 01:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now that Signpost people are aware that XY chromosomes is not a false claim, but is the best available information (though its significance is subject to interpretation), continuing the text of this piece unaltered is basically the same as lying. It would be rather unfortunate if the Signpost had no concern for truth and falsehood. By the way, claims that the Algerian and Taiwanese boxers had elevated testosterone levels, and claims that Algerian and Taiwanese boxers DID NOT have elevated testosterone levels are equally unsubstantiated, since no testosterone tests took place. Only chromosome tests took place, and the reported results were XY. AnonMoos (talk) 10:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]