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Should the hashtag not be wikilinked?

My edit doesn't seem to have been counted. Is that because I wrapped the hashtag in a wikilink to WP:NOV24? If so, the instructions should warn against this. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jlwoodwa: Yes, you are correct. Due to how the hashtag tool works, hashtags with a preceding character are not counted. See phab:T270992. If you'd like to continue wikilinking it, you'd have to add a space so it'd look like this: [[WP:NOV24| #NOV24]]. I'll add some detail to the instructions. Sorry about the confusion! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hashtag on Wikipedia talk pages

Hello. I was looking at edits to reviews and saw that the hashtag tool was picking up edits made by @Turtlecrown: on Wikipedia talk pages. Therefore, their points are not 100% accurate in the leaderboard (should be 22 instead of 26). I was wondering if the tool could only count hashtags on article pages and prevent similar miscounts by the bot. Thanks! MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging bot operator: @DreamRimmer. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, good spot! I wrote to four WikiProjects about the drive and I put the hashtag in the name of the new topic, and the heading is mirrored in edit summaries automatically. I can see this situation recurring if there are user talk discussions about edits that were part of the drive. If the easiest solution leaves me four articles "in debt" I'm happy to balance them out, just let me know. Turtlecrown (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to review those 4 for the drive because it's a bot error. Doing 4 more sounds like a good idea :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Turtlecrown, please don't do that. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a subpage to adjust points that were not counted due to issues with the hashtag tool or that were counted in non-mainspace. This was not a bot issue; the hashtag tool we are using to count points doesn't have an option to count only mainspace points. Although it's possible to do this with the bot code, it would require me to completely rewrite the hashtag function. So, I set up this adjustments subpage to make it easier to correct points. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @DreamRimmer. It will come in handy as well for when we tally any deductions resulting from the Review process. (We had no mechanism for doing so in February.) I suggest we do the final tally at the end of the review period (7 days after close). Cielquiparle (talk) 07:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DreamRimmer Is there any way we could add an asterisk or highlight participants who have pending deductions? So they are aware that there are issues they need to address at Reviews (and that they shouldn't just carry on assuming there are no problems)? Or maybe we create a rule that says any failed reviews should ping the participant? @ARandomName123 @Kazamzam Thoughts? Cielquiparle (talk) 07:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cielquiparle: This subpage keeps the leaderboard up-to-date in real-time. If you spot someone with extra points (counted in non-maintenance) or missing points (not counted by the hashtag tool), you can add that user to the adjustment page. The bot will then automatically update their points on the leaderboard. Please correct any points issues as soon as you notice them to help everyone see an accurate, real-time leaderboard. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please use following format:

Addition:

* username: +2  # comment

Deduction:

* username: -5  # comment

– DreamRimmer (talk) 07:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the adjustments subpage is only for modifying reference points, not review points. Review points can be adjusted after the drive concludes. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DreamRimmer @ARandomName123 Can we add instructions for this on the Reviews page...or to the main Backlog drive page? Not seeing anyone else use the adjustment tool...and we already have several mea culpas if you read the Reviews page. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing mixed submission - help!

What would you do at Special:Diff/1254824620?

sfn summary: 1.Bonß (y - birth) 2.Kron (n - but would have been covered by Bonß) 3.Schmitt (n?) 4.Manzo (y but wrong page) 5.Van Damme (n - not all claims). Side note: the more substantive claims are cited using restricted-access academic texts in German, though plenty of resources exist in English.

Is it still a Y because the birth citation is 1. one correct inline citation 2. to a reliable source 3. on an unreferenced article? Turtlecrown (talk) 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Turtlecrown - I just double checked the Bonß and it checks out so I would give it to them. You can put inline disputed tags on the others if they don't cut the mustard and maybe start a discussion on the talk page or with the editor directly. Thanks for bringing this up! Kazamzam (talk) 16:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The claims are verifiable (in English, or from other parts of the same sources) mostly quite easily. That's what made the failed verifications/ref errors to these particular texts feel all the more strange. Thanks for your input! Turtlecrown (talk) 16:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't realize I needed to add #NOV24 until now

I didn't realize I needed to use #NOV24. Should I undo and redo an edit including the tag for the pages for which I already removed the "Unreferenced" tag which are Chu-Chi Face, Bill Lennard, Liberia Telecommunications Corporation, and Blueberry Island (Massachusetts).

Also, for Salim Ben Ali I removed the "Unreferenced" tag and replaced it with "better source needed"; for Kad bi moja bila I found one reference but more are needed; for Minorities at Risk I added inline citations but didn't remove the "onesource" tag as it is written from one source.

For pages that didn't seem notable I wasn't completely consistent as I'm still trying to figure out when it's best to PROD (Indecision Records), add a notability tag (Nesamony Nagar, Party (1994 film)), or just a message on the talk page (The Gipsy Hill, Zopalki). I'm probably going to go back and PROD Party (1994 film) and Zopalki.

I have some other geographic pages I need to go to the library to find references for so I'll be able to use #NOV24 on those if I find sources. Nnev66 (talk) 23:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nnev66: There's no need to undo and redo the edits, simply leave a dummy edit with the hashtag #NOV24. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]