Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies/Official names of United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies

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Constituency names

the last paragraph of the opening seems rather commentarylike "a view has to be taken". surely we can instead accept that there was no official name, and that the concept of constituencies having official names can be dated probably to 1885 if not later? Morwen - Talk 12:21, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The notes do need some work. I was perhaps more making a note for myself, to clarify my ideas, than producing something appropriate for the finished article. --Gary J 16:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would be useful to distinguish Borough from County constituencies particularly

for pre-1983 period. Some "names" define Boroughs or groups of Boroughs, others districts of counties, and some changed from one to another over time.

May be able to help here.... but will need a consensus on how this information should be displayed

Exile 11:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose of article

This article and its children seem to be a conflation of article content, comment on content, and comment on presentation.

If this...

"The purpose of this article is to set out official names, taken from official sources wherever possible, to provide a definitive list which can then be used as a resource by those constructing constituency articles and other lists involving constituencies. It is requested that no amendments be made to the list, without a citation from the legal instrument creating a constituency, which has a greater validity than the source currently being used."

...is correct, then this article does not belong in the article space, but rather in the Wikipedia namespace under Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies. It might also be of relevance to Category:Wikipedia naming conventions, although Wikipedia uses WP:COMMONNAME rather than "official name".

A separate issue: it's not clear to me what extra information this constituency offers beyond List of United Kingdom Parliament constituencies, Constituencies in the United Kingdom general election, 2010 and List of former United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies. Two points are that it lists all three sets in one place, and that is has chronological summary data; both useful features. But neither seems relevant to the stated purpose of "official name".

My initial expectation was that all constituencies would be listed with, in each case, a list of all the variant names officially used for that constituency. Wikipedia:Index of articles on UK Parliament constituencies in England A-M seems more like what I was expecting than the present article.

Giving separate listings for "Edinburgh Leith" and "Edinburgh, Leith" suggests a maximal degree of finicky precision; and yet "North Londonderry" is listed, with "North Derry" in the note. According to Hansard 1922 the name was "County of Londonderry (North Derry Division)". I don't have a copy of the Seventh Schedule of the 1885 Act to hand, but the 1885 debate tallies with the 1922 cite.

The complaints about the difficulties of different constituencies having the same name is strange: is it a neutral statement that real-world researchers have complained that it makes their research difficult, or is it a Wikipedia editor's complaint that it makes their exposition difficult? In the latter case, I suggest what's needed is two columns in the table; one giving the official name with no wikilink, and the other giving the Wikipedia article with a wikilink. It doesn't matter if there are duplicates in column one, since they will be disambiguated by column two. jnestorius^(talk) 19:16, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Moved Salix (talk): 20:08, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Official names of United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies → Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies/Official names of United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies – As per comment by User:Jnestorius above. R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This seems to be a tool for Wikipedians rather than an encyclopedic article. --RJFF (talk) 19:01, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is still the very irritating problem that across a large number of pages and categories "United Kingdom" is applied to the whole history of constituencies which go back to the Middle Ages. In the context of Ireland, anachronisms of this kind have been eliminated, no doubt because there such blatant wrongness would be unthinkable. Moonraker (talk) 13:55, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support This does not read like an article. "It is requested that no amendments be made" is one phrase that should never appear in mainspace. --BDD (talk) 18:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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