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Featured article candidates
- 21 May 2024 – Hurricane Hilary (talk · edit · hist) was FA nominated by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
Good article nominees
- 30 Jun 2024 – Hurricane Juliette (2001) (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 19 Jun 2024 – Typhoon Ewiniar (2024) (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by TheNuggeteer (t · c); start discussion
- 07 Jun 2024 – Tropical Storm Yun-yeung (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by OhHaiMark (t · c); see discussion
- 15 May 2024 – 1937 Pacific typhoon season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by Hurricanehink (t · c); start discussion
- 29 Apr 2024 – 1937 Hong Kong typhoon (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by Hurricanehink (t · c); start discussion
- 17 Apr 2024 – 1876 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
- 09 Apr 2024 – 1873 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
- 08 Apr 2024 – 1872 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by 12george1 (t · c); start discussion
Good topic candidates
- 16 Jun 2024 – 1993 Atlantic hurricane season (talk · edit · hist) was GT nominated by Dylan620 (t · c); see discussion
The topic includes: Timeline of the 1993 Atlantic hurricane season
Requested moves
- 01 Jul 2024 – Hurricane Beryl (2024) (talk · edit · hist) move request to Hurricane Beryl by Quxyz (t · c) was moved to Hurricane Beryl (talk · edit · hist) by King of Hearts (t · c) on 03 Jul 2024; see discussion
Articles to be merged
- 05 May 2024 – Hurricane Isaias tornado outbreak (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Hurricane Isaias by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 05 May 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Isaac in Louisiana (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Hurricane Isaac (2012) by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 05 May 2024 – Effects of Hurricane Isaac in Florida (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to Hurricane Isaac (2012) by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 13 Apr 2024 – Cyclone Kate (2006) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2005–06 Australian region cyclone season by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 03 Mar 2024 – Tropical Storm Cristobal (2002) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2002 Atlantic hurricane season by Hurricanehink (t · c); see discussion
- 23 Feb 2024 – Tropical Storm Nicholas (2003) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2003 Atlantic hurricane season by Hurricane Noah (t · c); see discussion
- 23 Feb 2024 – Tropical Storm Lester (2004) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2004 Pacific hurricane season by Hurricane Noah (t · c); see discussion
- 23 Feb 2024 – Tropical Storm Ignacio (1997) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 1997 Pacific hurricane season by Hurricane Noah (t · c); see discussion
- 23 Feb 2024 – Tropical Storm Danny (2009) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 2009 Atlantic hurricane season by Hurricane Noah (t · c); see discussion
- 30 Jan 2024 – Hurricane Newton (1986) (talk · edit · hist) is proposed for merging to 1986 Pacific hurricane season by Hurricane Noah (t · c); see discussion
Articles for creation
- 25 Apr 2024 – Draft:Effects of Hurricane Ian in Florida (talk · edit · hist) has been submitted for AfC by 204.98.124.205 (t · c)
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Project notes[edit]
I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Tropical Storm Debby (2006)[edit]
An article that you have been involved in editing—Tropical Storm Debby (2006)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Flux55
Merger discussion for Hurricane Joyce (2000)[edit]
An article that you have been involved in editing—Hurricane Joyce (2000)—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please follow the (Discuss) link at the top of the article to participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Flux55
Track map request[edit]
Attention to anyone who has the track map generator (hopefully one of you are watching this). In the GA review for 1936 Pacific typhoon season, the reviewer requested any additional images. I wondered if anyone could make a track map for this typhoon, which lasted from August 18 to September 1, and was quite deadly in the Korean peninsula, as well as this typhoon from October 8–15, and was deadly in the Philippines. Thanks to anyone who can help with this. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Current storm information, and the resulting external links involved[edit]
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Editors removing formatted citations for bare URL citations - please see the ongoing discussion here. There’s a bit of an edit war in the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season about this section. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
TfD for current storm templates[edit]
Following the abovementioned ANI discussion, Template:Infobox weather event/Current, Template:Infobox weather event/live, Template:HurricaneWarningsTable, Template:IMDWarningsTable, and Template:TyphoonWarningsTable have been nominated for deletion, citing concerns with MOS:CURRENT and WP:NOTNEWS. Editors are invited to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 19#Tropical cyclone current storm templates. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 05:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Village Pump discussion on information pertaining to current storms[edit]
I have posted a discussion at Village Pump (Policy) as a followup to the ANI thread on how to handle information on current tropical cyclones. It can be found at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Wikiproject procedures for WP:NOTNEWS in reference to active storms. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Units again[edit]
My proposal is to use metric units first in infoboxes and meteorological history sections in Atlantic and Pacific hurricane articles. This is because countries affected by these hurricanes include number of countries using entirely or almost entirely metric units. Only impacts in the United States would use imperial units first. For example, storms impacting both Mexico and US would use metric first in section of impacts in Mexico and imperial first in section of impacts in US. And possibly Belize and Bahamas would use imperial units too. This is example of metric units first in article of Hurricane Otis:
Hurricane Otis was a compact but very powerful tropical cyclone which made a devastating landfall in October 2023 near Acapulco as a Category 5 hurricane. Otis was the first Pacific hurricane to make landfall at Category 5 intensity and surpassed Hurricane Patricia as the strongest landfalling Pacific hurricane on record. The resulting damage made Otis the costliest tropical cyclone to strike Mexico on record. The fifteenth tropical storm, tenth hurricane, eighth major hurricane,[nb 1] and second Category 5 hurricane of the 2023 Pacific hurricane season, Otis originated from a disturbance several hundred kilometers south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec. Initially forecast to stay offshore and to only be a weak tropical storm at peak intensity, Otis instead underwent explosive intensification to reach peak winds of 270 km/h (170 mph) and weakened only slightly before making landfall as a powerful Category 5 hurricane. Once inland, the hurricane quickly weakened before dissipating the following day.[...] Light to moderate southeasterly wind shear displaced convection northwest of Otis's surface circulation during the overnight hours of October 22–23. The lack of vertical alignment and dry mid-level air delayed potential intensification despite an otherwise favorable environment consisting of high sea surface temperatures and abundant atmospheric moisture.[2] Sea surface temperatures ahead of the system averaged 30–31 °C (86–88 °F), above average for this time of year. The high temperatures resulted from a combination of a record-warm September for Mexico, an ongoing El Niño, and the influence of global warming.[3] The system's motion shifted from due north to north-northwest during this time, remaining around 6–8 km/h (4–5 mph).[4] A convective band developed halfway around the storm by the afternoon of October 23, and the surface circulation and thunderstorm activity moved closer together.[5] During the overnight of October 23–24, the storm moved into a region of more favorable conditions, with higher sea surface temperatures and weaker vertical wind shear.[2] Microwave satellite imagery depicted a low-level ring structure, often a precursor to rapid intensification, despite the overall sheared appearance of the system.[6] The storm's forward motion also increased during this time, potentially offsetting the negative impacts of southeasterly wind shear.[3] As a result, upper-level outflow expanded noticeably and the system's core became centered in the convection. This led to Otis beginning an intensification phase that would continue until landfall.[2] As the morning of October 24 progressed, outflow continued to expand in all directions atop Otis and many banding features circulated the storm.[7] The improvement in outflow was accentuated by a powerful jet streak—a wind maxima within the jet stream—which accelerated the rate of latent heat dispersal and fostered convective development.[3] Otis commenced explosive intensification and became a hurricane by 12:00 UTC (07:00 CDT) on October 24.[2] [...] --40bus (talk) 07:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Right now, this is a factor of the Infobox weather event displaying the units for a basin, I believe. Hurricane Juan, an Atlantic hurricane affecting Canada, should absolutely have the metric units first. I believe it could be easy to change the programming for Infobox weather event to be something like: unit = metric. Especially since that infobox is now used worldwide. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:11, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: why not just display metric first globally since it would be confusing to do it for a few specific countries. Most TCs affect more than one country anyways. Noah, BSBATalk 20:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yea, make metric the default, and maybe just have a coding switch if it's primarily affecting the US? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: What Im saying is just use metric first regardless of country which would harmonize things globally. Every country except the US uses metric within the NHC AORs. I don't see a need to use customary units first in any article since it would make things disorderly within a set of season articles. Better to just make them all the same. Noah, BSBATalk 00:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree if the US used the metric system, that would harmonize things globally for sure! Unfortunately the US abandoned their efforts to metricate in the 1990s. Also, the NHC uses imperial units as the default, which could be enough justification for keeping Atlantic hurricane season articles as using imperial units first, even if some seasons might feature more systems impacting metric-using countries. Also, this being the English Wikipedia, the US accounts for majority of the views. So, in an ideal world, yea, we'd use metric system first, but I think there should be an exception for US storms and the AHS. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: What Im saying is just use metric first regardless of country which would harmonize things globally. Every country except the US uses metric within the NHC AORs. I don't see a need to use customary units first in any article since it would make things disorderly within a set of season articles. Better to just make them all the same. Noah, BSBATalk 00:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yea, make metric the default, and maybe just have a coding switch if it's primarily affecting the US? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Hurricanehink: why not just display metric first globally since it would be confusing to do it for a few specific countries. Most TCs affect more than one country anyways. Noah, BSBATalk 20:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Can someone confirm if this image is Hurricane Floyd or Hurricane Fran?[edit]
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- ^ "Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale". National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on June 20, 2020. Retrieved October 25, 2023.
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- ^ Cangialosi, John; Delgado, Sandy (October 23, 2023). Tropical Storm Otis Discussion Number 6 (Technical Discussion). National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on October 25, 2023. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
- ^ Blake, Eric (October 24, 2023). Tropical Storm Otis Discussion Number 7 (Technical Discussion). National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on October 25, 2023. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
- ^ Pasch, Richard (October 24, 2023). Tropical Storm Otis Discussion Number 9 (Technical Discussion). National Hurricane Center. Archived from the original on October 25, 2023. Retrieved October 30, 2023.
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