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Archive 2
Mission 6
- GaiaGirls's suggestion text: It starts out with "Science shows that..." This is not a good example to set. In general, the example Earth article is informal and not representative of the kind of language expected from Wikipedia articles these days, but the 'science shows' bit is especially problematic. In a science-related article, we don't want to bald assertions of truth (essentially, "it is known that...") taking the superficial appearance of in-text attribution.
- Interestingly I used text from Simple English Wikipedia and did not alter it significantly. I suppose Simple WP has looser guidelines on attribution/truth assertions. I will give this some thought.
- It's tricky, because you want an example article that any new user can engage with even without particular knowledge of the topic, but you also want to set realistic examples of what good content looks like. For the "Science shows" bit, it's not so much asserting facts that is the problem, but rather lumping the source of those facts into the catchall of "science". It's phraseology that on Wikipedia would immediately raise red flags for science editors.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- Interestingly I used text from Simple English Wikipedia and did not alter it significantly. I suppose Simple WP has looser guidelines on attribution/truth assertions. I will give this some thought.
- Taggy challenge: the message here seems to be not to push back against users who are inappropriately bitey or unpleasant in tone. Taggy's message is an example of a not-uncommon type of interaction, but one that it's useful to point out as unhelpful and not a good way to treat newcomers. The 'little heart to heart' response does indeed fail to address the sourcing concern (as noted in the 'wrong answer' message), but the right answer doesn't include the good concept from that response of also addressing Taggy's tone. Taggy's response confirms that they were in the wrong with the tone, but in many cases rude users will not correct their behavior unless they get called out a bit for it. Maintaining civility often requires more than simply turning the other cheek as in the 'right' answer here.
- This is a very critical point of the game. I wanted to introduce editors to the propspect of incivility without overwhelming them. The interaction with Taggy models being cool, and demonstrates that Taggy is not trying to be a dick, but just having a rough time. I think that sending a stronger message to Taggy in the game, one that had more push-back might risk encouraging editors to focus on tone rather than content in their replies. I will give this some more serious thought though, it's really a significant juncture in the game.
- Yeah, I agree about this being a critical point. Maybe the explanation for the correct answer could go into a bit more detail -- making clear that it's not only important to respond with civility when others are uncivil, but also that it's not okay to behave like Taggy did.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- This is a very critical point of the game. I wanted to introduce editors to the propspect of incivility without overwhelming them. The interaction with Taggy models being cool, and demonstrates that Taggy is not trying to be a dick, but just having a rough time. I think that sending a stronger message to Taggy in the game, one that had more push-back might risk encouraging editors to focus on tone rather than content in their replies. I will give this some more serious thought though, it's really a significant juncture in the game.
- The 'back' links in the tour boxes on all of the answers pages take the user back to the step before the challenge. The expected behavior will be to return to the challenge page itself to select a different answer.
- Ah, nice catch...that's a known bug, and it's because the Challenge Question and Answer pages happen on the same step of the tour. Sadly, despite a lot of tinkering, I don't have a simple fix here, except to remove the back button entirely from all Challenge pages.
Mission 7
- The instructions for adding section formatting and images are unnecessarily tedious. The user does not need to do these tasks 5+ times each.
- You mean that user should only be asked to do one section or one image? I wanted the article to be completely formatted as a polished end-product, so that's why there's repetition. I will think about whether it could be tightened a bit for efficiency, while still creating a nice looking end game. (I actually reduced the number of tasks here, but may not have gone as far as you'd like).
- One or two sections, yeah. And one or two images. Adding all those at once is not a realistic task anyway, since the headers are there already but not formatted. Maybe it could be adjusted so that the player is formatting a single newly-added section, with all the headers except the last one already in the proper form. Searching the text for each of those headers in turn seemed to me extremely tedious, much more so than other instructions.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 16:28, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- You mean that user should only be asked to do one section or one image? I wanted the article to be completely formatted as a polished end-product, so that's why there's repetition. I will think about whether it could be tightened a bit for efficiency, while still creating a nice looking end game. (I actually reduced the number of tasks here, but may not have gone as far as you'd like).
General thoughts
- One way to get around several issues related to time would be to frame the adventure as a trip back in time, perhaps to prevent a terrible catastrophe caused by a bad Wikipedia article about Earth. (Earth was just blown up because of some bad, policy-violating content that misled an alien race... or something.) That way, the timestamps on the mock page histories don't have to be an endless stream of {{currentdate}}, and it would explain why the Earth article is really simple. Then time can zoom forward a bit to show how the article developed in the meantime during Mission 7. And it would add a bit more purpose to the whole adventure, which otherwise doesn't drive anywhere in particular.
- I thought a lot about the game's 'backstory', and whether or not there should be some motivational context and history for the story. In the end I decided that fabricating a motivation to play the game would add an element of drama that I didn't want, one which would interfere with the key quest of the game which is to improve an article on Wikipedia. In this sense the game is more interactive guided tour than conventional quest. I will give this some more thought, about whether a backstory could distract or trivilize, or whether it would deepen and drive user engagement.
- Maybe something to test both ways. The more story that's in it, the more the story will turn off some people. But a good story could also make it much more engaging to a lot of people. I think just by setting it up as a game with a space fantasy setting, it's already going to be appealing to some and really unappealing to others, so my intuition is that going from just a theme to an actual story would be worth it. But it's hard to say until you get more feedback from actual newcomers. On that note, I encourage you to set up a better system for seeking feedback at the end. You could make a short "what did you think about the adventure" post the last step of the last mission. I did something like that for the student trainings, and it was extremely valuable in finding ways to improve it early on. See Wikipedia:Training/For students/Training complete and Wikipedia:Training/For students/Training feedback.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 17:06, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
- I thought a lot about the game's 'backstory', and whether or not there should be some motivational context and history for the story. In the end I decided that fabricating a motivation to play the game would add an element of drama that I didn't want, one which would interfere with the key quest of the game which is to improve an article on Wikipedia. In this sense the game is more interactive guided tour than conventional quest. I will give this some more thought, about whether a backstory could distract or trivilize, or whether it would deepen and drive user engagement.
--Ragesock (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
instruction placement
@Ocaasi:: Many of the steps in the tours have message boxes that appear beneath the page text. It's a nice feature, especially when it causes the page to scroll down to reveal that box. The one issue is that the boxes show up well beneath the main body, because they are attached beneath the #footer-info-copyright. Can you attach them instead to #content.mw-body so that they aren't so far beneath the main body (and #wpTextbox1 for boxes in the edit window)?--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 19:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hey Sage Ross (WMF). I tried a bunch of options but maybe not the two you mentioned. I'll test them out and see how it works. Thanks for the tips :) !! Ocaasi t | c 20:59, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
The Wikipedia Adventure really helps the new comers to learn and work on Wikipedia. Hats off for people behind this effort. --Rafiqd (talk) 23:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
<--! Please share your honest, thoughtful, constructive feedback below. Thanks for playing :) -->
- What I liked
was fairly easy to grasp and made sense of the concepts and policy. ...
- What I didn't like
The text box for the adventure instructions would sometime appear over the text it was trying to get me to read (for example the history of changes on the earth page) and thus I couldn't really see what was back there. I get that it wasn't actually important, but it still made me want to click the box off so I could actually read the information. ...
- What I wanted more of
Editing markup tool use. their are tools up there I didn't use. ...
- What was unnecessary
some of the storyline, but that doesn't mean it wasn't fun and it did make it a user friendly experience. ...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
perhaps find a way to make the instruction box Popup (what DO you call that thing?) movable so you can read behind it without closing it. ...
--Frater UI (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...Making me think
- What I didn't like
...Feeling a dimwit when I hadn't grasped a concept/instruction fully first time
- What I wanted more of
...Sound as I played
- That's an interesting thought. Ocaasi, is that technically possible? -- Ross Hill • Talk • Need Help? • 23:54, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hey Ross Hill, Sounds could definitely not be played automatically, that would be seen as disruptive and intrustive. However this was a neat suggestion I got from Sage Ross, to place an optional sound into the celebratory points of the game. I tried it on the mission 7 endpage, see what you think: Wikipedia:TWA/7/End. Other possible places for these sounds would be after successfully answering the galactic challenges. I'm torn whether or not it is cheesy and would be overkill though, even as something people opt in to playing. I think the finale sound is fitting without being too much. What do you think? Ocaasi t | c 23:58, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- What was unnecessary
...Nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...Extremely engaging, well-thought out and technically robust method of teaching.
--Martypuss (talk) 20:06, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback update from Checkingfax
Fixed There are now 17 project-sites (up from 15). Go to your preferences to verify. Checkingfax (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- Fixed Crikey, now's there's 18 project-sites! Checkingfax (talk) 16:33, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Update on sounds
@Ross Hill, Ragesoss, Sbouterse (WMF). Per your fun and thoughtful suggestions, I have tried sounds at both the game end and also the galactic challenge success pages. Let me know what you think!
- Wikipedia:TWA/1/Bio/2
- Wikipedia:TWA/2/Will/1
- Wikipedia:TWA/2/Gaia/3
- Wikipedia:TWA/4/NPOV/2
- Wikipedia:TWA/4/Rephrase/3
- Wikipedia:TWA/5/V/1
- Wikipedia:TWA/5/RS/2
- Wikipedia:TWA/5/Reply/3
- Wikipedia:TWA/6/Civil/2
- Wikipedia:TWA/7/End
I searched commons for a variety of interesting clips that are under 20 seconds. If you find other cool ones, let me know. Cheers and thanks for the great idea! Ocaasi t | c 16:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
The whole thing was very well put together. I especially like the fact that it's laid out chronologically through a basic project workflow that involves collaboration with another user.
- What I didn't like
The badges are kinda corny, but I understand how acknowledgement of progress is important.
- What I wanted more of
I'd like to see a rather lengthy section on report programs, mediation, blocking users, and page protection.
- What was unnecessary
I think it was all very necessary.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Great job!
--GoodBetterBestNeverLetItRest (talk) 23:32, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
It's a nice way to get to know Wikipedia.
- What I didn't like
It's a good way to get started.
- What I wanted more of
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
I would like to use this also on the Dutch WikiKids. It would be a great way to let children start editing on WikiKids.
--Gerarddummer (talk) 16:36, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...The tone and friendliness
- What I didn't like
...I couldn't figure out how to add images from instructions. I'm sure I missed something but...?
- What I wanted more of
...Another advanced adventure
- What was unnecessary
...Nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...
--KomodoDragon3000 (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2014 (UTC) KomodoDragon3000 (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Updated feedback from Checkingfax
Hello, there are now 22 project sites on Wikipedia (up from 18). Time for an update! Checkingfax (talk) 04:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- hi Checkingfax What are these projects , Where can I find them?Kixzer Franz710 (talk) 01:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Kixzer ... Log in to your Wikipedia account, then click on the Preferences link; on the User Profile tab you will see a couple of links under Global Account Status ... click on those links and you should see (up to) 22-project-sites. Cheers! Checkingfax (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
… Thanks for making learning fun. It's great to be part of this multiverse of knowledge.
- What I didn't like
… The first time around, I didn't get that I was supposed to participate, rather than simply read and 'click the equivalent of OK".
- What I wanted more of
… Harder questions that didn't have all the answers as "copy and paste" items.
- What was unnecessary
...
It was well constructed. Maybe if anything, the "fireworks" image was a teensy bit corny, but not at all a big deal.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
… There is a LOT to learn, and I am grateful that this tutorial exists. Thank you!!!
--Netherzone (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
The History page and sounds
Hi Ocaasi,
I just went through most of the game and I think that this was quite fun! As always there are of course some minor tweaks that would make it even better:
- I think that it was a bit confusing with the History page part. In the list is says "You" instead of my user name. I assume that this is for technical reasons, but perhaps it could say "YOUR USERNAME" or something?
- In the history list there were comments added to my edits (edit summaries) that I had not written. This, I believe, would be a bit confusing for a newbie as it would indicate that comments are added automatically/magically somehow.
- There are also some problems with the sound files as they do not open automatically when you arrive to a new page. If they would start automatically this would enhance the experience.
Finally, I was wondering when it would be possible to create local versions on other language versions?
Best, John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 12:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Also, I would suggest that the step of "Show preview" would be added more frequently. John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- And... when adding images I suggest that also the value of captions should be mentioned in the instructions, as that would be relevant information to point out IMHO (for increased accessibility for one thing). John Andersson (WMSE) (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
I like everything specially the steps or the way. One new user can easily understand the things.
- What I didn't like
Some times I felt like I'm doing so much clicks.
- What I wanted more of
The interface need to be more interactive.
- What was unnecessary
The initials training and ideas about the article base.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
I'd like to thanks the developers and the concept creator for their work. I can clearly see that many new comers are going to learn very quick using this. --Jnanaranjan Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) talk 11:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... The Interface and precise information.
- What I didn't like
... Didn't included anything about adding voice or video
- What I wanted more of
... Adding images
- What was unnecessary
... Nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...
--Anwaraj (talk) 13:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
Thank you very much for the helpful tutorial. Whew! I did it! :) ...
--Literally&figurative (talk) 17:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
Training was cute but not saccharine, well-structured, and covered important points. The self-pacing worked well. Good amount of practice on key skills.
- What I wanted more of
Awesome unicorn and volcano graphics :)
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Thanks much!
--WilfredSwinton (talk) 20:19, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...Well done. Easy to follow and I left feeling more confident.
- What I didn't like
...
- What I wanted more of
...This was probably just right for a first tutorial. But, I wondered if there was a next level tutorial. Or from here, it is just learning by doing?
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...I appreciate the hard work and effort to make a new editor feel welcome.
--Pcrowelltechview (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... Creative!
- What I didn't like
... Setbacks on clicking the "continue" blue buttons.
- What I wanted more of
... Funny and clever references
- What was unnecessary
... Nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...
--Mariadavi (talk) 19:16, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Why not go to REAL history?
In a step (I think it's mission 4) I was lead to a fake history of page "(username)/TWA/Earth". Why not go to the REAL one? User670839245 (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Er. got it. BTW in some wikis there're some sort of {{USERNAME}} template that automatically display current user's username... can that be used? (It's still me, user670839245)23:19, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Clean up tag
in mission 6 the cleanup template... should be on the top of a page, shouldn't it??User670839245 (talk) 23:02, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
and the sig, named "you". (It's still me, user670839245.)23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey why not port that to other wikipedias?
as title. User670839245 (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
auto-confirm states
In this wiki auto confirm is got by being for 4 days and make 10 edits... before that users can't save right away before they preview. How did I actually... (until the first REAL edit in the tour, 1 edit is made automatically by the tour... only one.) does the tour grant that right for users??!! (btw, the zh: needs 7 days and 50 edits.. and I am still not autoconfirmed there.)User670839245 (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Awesome adventure !
Feedback
- What I liked
- Everything...
- What I didn't like
...
- What I wanted more of
...
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
- This was a really fruitful adventure indeed! ...
--Alshera (talk) 08:04, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... Nothing
- What I didn't like
... Nothing
- What I wanted more of
... Nothing
- What was unnecessary
... Nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... Nothing --Jesus on Shrooms (talk) 16:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... Very interesting and helpful, walked you through very easily
- What I didn't like
... The differences between the 3 choices of reply were too obvious, perhaps some a little closer to reality?
- What I wanted more of
...Why were some of the words linked to be highlighted and not others, eg methane and not carbon dioxide or oxygen. I understand that it would get too much to link all important terms, but in such an article, how do you decide?
- What was unnecessary
...The audio clips
- Any other thoughts you want to share
.A little clearer on the showing the pages we were looking at if possible, I'm not entirely sure which was project, which talk and which history, I'm goinmg to go through it again anyway and it is late here!..
Thanks for doing this, very much clearer than reading through reams and reams of pages! --Hannahlucy100 (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Question
My dad was an artist who lived on Martha's Vineyard and died over 10 years ago. I thought it would be of value to write an article about him. I have submitted it, but I would like guidance concerning his name. His legal name is John Stanley Murphy, but he went by Stan Murphy or Stanley Murphy for nearly all of his life. What name do I use for the biography? Thnaks in advance. - David 61Murphyrd (talk) 15:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC) 61Murphyrd (talk · contribs), hi, the best place to ask for this kind of help is the Teahouse. They'll have some good guidance for you. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 15:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...the overall tutorial was good. love the badges!
- What I didn't like
...
- What I wanted more of
...
- What was unnecessary
...7 repetitions of headings, links, and images. 3 is probably enough
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...overall very good.
--Nuqq (talk) 13:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... I Like How I Learn to Edit thing
- What I didn't like
... I Don't Like How the Talks were
- What I wanted more of
... the Words There About the Earth
- What was unnecessary
... No
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... I Just Want to Say Thank you and You are Best to be Here
--Dardani1997 (talk) 19:05, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
... I liked the clear explanations
- What I didn't like
...
- What I wanted more of
...
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... Essential to any one getting started with Wikipedia. --Ausi1 (talk) 00:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Question for talk page watchers, which placement is best? User:Ocaasi/sandbox
User:Ocaasi/sandbox Thoughts? Ocaasi t | c 18:10, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Facing problems with Modern skin
I just went through the Wikipedia Adventure. My main purpose was to review the work that you all have done to see if there are any bugs and problems. I use the Modern skin and Firefox 26.0. Initially when the adventurer has to edit a page by clicking the the edit link button, I was not able to click it and the mouse cursor turned into the highlighting or editing mode instead of the hand which should have shown up while going to click a link (screen-shot of problem). I faced the problem starting 2 times and then didn't. I had to manually enter the edit link in the address bar to continue the adventure. The same thing happens when I view this page too. Even though I can't see the edit button, I can still click it. This is however not possible while the adventure is on. I hope you all fix this soon but I don't think that many newbies will even know about the modern skin.
Also, it would have been better if the music starts playing automatically (if it is possible). Can you please give me a list of the sound files that were used?
Have a very Happy New Year by the way. - Jayadevp13 15:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hey Jayadevp13, thanks for the feedback. We built The Wikipedia Adventure primarily for the default setting a new user would face, so Vector skin and Source (rather than Visual) editor. Frankly, we didn't even attempt to make it compatible with settings that the vast majority of new users wouldn't be using, as TWA is a very new-user centered tutorial.
- The list of sounds is at Wikipedia:TWA/Index#Sounds.
- Happy new year to you too! Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 17:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- @Ocaasi: Ok. I too think that compatibility for all skins is not required. Thank You for the sounds. - Jayadevp13 17:17, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Some ideas to improve
I found this game very ludic and fun. Why not add supplementary quests, for learn more again? If a contributor wants to know more on a specific subject, he can do the quest for learn. For example : -User page quest -Editing war stopping quest (with a false editing war, of course) -Vandalism stopping quest (with false vandals, as the false users of the original TWA) -etc. Also, why not put this awesome game to other Wikimedia projects. The Wiktionnary Adventure, The Wikispecies Adventure, etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sosolal (talk • contribs) 09:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
- The art design - The humor, and at times over the top "Aren't you great?" and "Isn't Wikipedia the best thing in the world?" atmosphere to the adventure. - It forced me to use the editing buttons (I had never used them before)
- What I didn't like
-In Section 3, step 3, the "Search for typos button": The button didn't indicate that I should have searched for typos before clicking on it. -I didn't know why some of the buttons had stars (*) on them -Towards the end being told to hit the edit button was tedious. (E.g step 15 of mission 6 the prompt "Click EDIT so you can add an inline citation.") I would have preferred to be taken directly to the the Edit page. - That wikilinks were introduced so late in the tutorial. For some people this is the defining feature of Wikipedia so I felt it should have been introduced sooner than later. -When told to copy a multiple choice reply for the first time in mission 2, (step 5) it wasn't immediately obvious I was meant to copy the text contained in the prompt, perhaps change the prompt to: "Copy the best reply from the box below and paste it into the editing text box, at the bottom below Will's message to you" and then surround the text ":Thanks so much for your friendly welcome User:WillKomen. I can't wait to start editing!..." with a box.
- What I wanted more of
-The art design could have benefited from further diversity. -Could have incorporated the Show Preview button.
- What was unnecessary
(Again towards the end) explicitly telling users to press the SAVE button each time an edit was made.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
-None of the sound clips automatically played for me, I wasn't aware whether this was intentional or not. -Had no idea the tutorial existed until I visited the article wizard. -The usernames used were pretty funny.
--Neuroxic (talk) 04:34, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...clear concise instructions, friendly tone
- What I didn't like
...It was a little cutsy (with the music and congratulations at end of every session. Seemed geared toward a middle school or early high school level of learning.
- What I wanted more of
...where to find the badge type templates to give to other users.
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...Nicely interactive between interface and user. Very impressive gamification!
--Chimp1cards (talk) 05:57, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
The badges, the article about Earth, the popup interface, the plot of the "videogame".
- What I didn't like
- The "Challenge yourself..." window it looks obscure to me. Better to add something like "Answer to the questions below".
- The "mascot" looks strange...
- I think these pictures in the article about Earth are nice, but not pertinent to the content of the sections where they are included: File:Bachalpseeflowers.jpg, File:Red eyed tree frog edit2.jpg, File:Schoolgirls in Bamozai.JPG
- The arrows to go back looks like a line: it is better to change the shape with another one with a bigger tip.
- What I wanted more of
- In the article about Earth, if we use American English, these words need to be replaced: urbanisation --> urbanization, vapour --> vapor. On the contrary, if we use Britannic English we need to change these words: kilometers --> kilometres, center --> centre, traveling --> travelling.
- in the final page of the videogame, the statistics bar are overlapped with missions' links.
- a page that shows Commons (or a simulated one) and let the user to search for pictures before to add them to the article.
- What was unnecessary
- nothing
- Any other thoughts you want to share
- More than 4 years ago, in it.wikipedia we created this guide for beginners. The initial idea was similar: to create a "safe" environment where the user can learn the basics of Wikipedia. I think it could be great to use there the popup technique that you used for TWA. More in general, these technique could be applied to a lot of Wikipedia guides to make them more user-friendly.
--Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 09:45, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
...I learned many things I did not know how to do before in editing pages of Wikipedia.
- What I didn't like
...
- What I wanted more of
...I wanted to learn a bit more on finding the images and references
- What was unnecessary
...
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...Thankyou
--Erisedstar30259 (talk) 19:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
The way wiki works
- What I didn't like
Nothing
- What I wanted more of
Scope of editing
- What was unnecessary
easy methods to edit
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Some of the things will not have a reliable references those things can be added with special advises I think
--Bellus Delphina talk 19:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
- I thought it gave a great overview of the basics of editing articles.
- The "lounge" was cool and I enjoyed the second piece of music.
- What I didn't like
- Most of the "multiple choice" answers were too simplistic and obvious to actually teach anything.
- The text box should have been movable: I couldn't read the pages I was looking at most of the time.
--AnnaBorgida (talk) 18:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
I enjoyed the tips and pointers
- What I didn't like
The little pop-ups
- What I wanted more of
More pictures/interactivity
- What was unnecessary
The dragon dude
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Liked it
--KBSully (talk) 02:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
- What I liked
I thought this was a really great and succinct introduction to Wikipedia.
- What I didn't like
I didn't actually want all the badges that I got, since I felt like they cluttered up my user page (and I've since removed them). I get that it's a sign of positive encouragement, but I think this could be accomplished through fewer badges. Maybe just one cool badge could be awarded if you finished all the missions available.
- What I wanted more of
I liked every opportunity I had to choose the 'best possible' response in a situation. Those were good delineations of community norms.
- What was unnecessary
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
I'd be curious to know how you're introducing this to potential new users. Is it going to pop up every time someone creates a new account? Does it do that already?
Also, thanks for creating this! It was really fun and cute without being cloying or condescending.
--Snarkady (talk) 22:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Irritating and patronising
This "adventure" is really patronising. I didn't come across it until I had been editing for five years or more. If it had been inflicted on me earlier, I might have been pissed off enough to give up on editing. Who do you think it is aimed at? Maproom (talk) 23:22, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Maproom, I'm sorry you didn't care for the game. We've surveyed new editors extensively--nearly 1000 have finished it so far, and few have said anything but that they liked it. In fact, the only two serious grievances came from very experienced editors like yourself. It's possible that the game is simply so beneath your skillset that it seems patronising, but that for a complete newcomer, it's just the kind of tone that seems accessible and entertaining. Cheers, Ocaasi t | c 00:58, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- A more advanced version should be created for semi-experienced editors. I went through the entire game hoping for some useful tips, but found everything too basic. That said, it will be of use for new editors and it did not feel patronising to me, just friendly. DirtDigger (talk) 10:52, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
I was a great way to know about the basics of being a wiki editor.
- What I didn't like
too much clicking
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maybe make an advanced editing game of this type.
--RustyDude09 (talk) 03:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Beedfack
- What I liked
Covers the basics, mentions overlinking, pretty picture, friendly, provides links to additional resources. User references in the article "history" are a nice touch.
- What I didn't like
Imaginary friends are kind of creepy. I guess they're necessary to simulate a collaborative environment, but it expected this (1:20-1:49) to happen all the time. Maybe add an age question in the beginning and replace them with more abstract explanations?
The dialog window gets in the way a few times (it blocked the save button once and text I was supposed to edit a few times). There should be a way to move it around.
- What I wanted more of
Dunno, maybe some reactivity for non-standard responses (like when the user doesn't add the text they're supposed to add and so on)? Probably hard to do...
- What was unnecessary
Some smileys; there should probably be an option to opt out of auto-adding those badges onto the userpage.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Can you delete all these autocreated pages in my userspace?
--illythr (talk) 22:52, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Illythr: simply add {{Db-g7}}, and an admin will delete them for you. --Mdann52talk to me! 12:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
... Most of it
- What I didn't like
... The long fire works at the end
- What I wanted more of
... Practice. And meanness of Taggy
- What was unnecessary
... GaiaGirl86 saying she '[is] from Earth, too!'
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... Longer --Fred Bloggs (talk) 22:05, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
It gave me the knowledge I needed to not be afraid to give this a try. ...
- What I didn't like
Tool bar buttons should be on top and bottom of the edit box to save scrolling. ...
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
When I went to copy and paste images in the last exercise, I could only copy and paste one of the images. I was not sure if I was doing something wrong.PeaceofHistory (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC) ...
--PeaceofHistory (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
Neat Tutorial.
- What I didn't like
Little bit lengthy.
- What I wanted more of
Nothing as such.
- What was unnecessary
Nothing was unnecessary i think.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Give tutorial on Infobox (which comes i the right side of an article).
--Ronald James Pulpel 06:53, 11 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldjamespulpel (talk • contribs)
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- What I liked
... It was a great fun and interactive way of learning about Wikipedia editing.
- What I didn't like
... Sometimes it didn't pick up my edits and seemed stuck in a loop. I realized and made a further minor edit (like additing a space) to make it happy but I can see how someone could drop off at that point.
- What I wanted more of
... A page administration tutorial?
- What was unnecessary
... N/A
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... Excellent resource. I need to show some colleagues how to use Wikipedia and I'll start by pointing them to the Adventure!
--Cxw1044 (talk) 13:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
ahaha. I love Taggy McTaggerstein.
- What I didn't like
Mission 2 I think mentions that my contributions are "just from my user page and talk" which (being a long time user before this tutorial) it's not. Maybe reword it so it says something like "Unless you have been editing before this tutorial, then it's just from your user page and talk"
mission 5 step 7 ("Which sentence best summarizes Verifiability") the floating box ("Challenge yourself") should be fixed in place.
For some reason the image function wasn't working completely in mission 7. (I pasted the file names in the prompt box but it wouldn't let me actually insert them in to the article)
- What I wanted more of
explanation of certain templates like for example when creating a page about a famous person, how do you make the box to the right with their details. And how to link pages to certain categories.
- What was unnecessary
The badges and the tutorial populated messages seem like a kinda lame thing to have on my page <:D.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
A nice thorough tutorial :). Was a bit hard to find though. Maybe it needs it's own advertisement on the front page or at the top (If you're not already linking new users to it). That or maybe an obvious banner when you go to look up help editing.
--Msmarmalade (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
The music, the friendly tone, the easy steps, and the general warm atmosphere around the adventure.
- What I didn't like
Sometimes while editing, I would go ahead and save the page before the "box" told me so. Seems the system had trouble if I was a step ahead without "letting it know" and I would sometimes have to restart the mission.
- What I wanted more of
Perhaps additional "missions" with more complex mechanisms covered
- What was unnecessary
Nothing unnecessary :)
- Any other thoughts you want to share
This was a good intro to wikipedia!
--ONBaneth (talk) 15:16, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
...Nice tutorial!
- What I didn't like
...At the step for adding 5 images, the menu method stopped working after the first image. I had to copy-paste the first entry four times, and then substitute in the names of the image files. Not sure why since the entire Adventure worked fine otherwise.
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--Zelda1700 (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
- It was simple, fun and instructive :)
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- What I didn't like
- very little, it worked well and was easy to use
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- What I wanted more of
- higher level :)
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- What was unnecessary
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
- Just thank you! I bookmarked the help pages too and the tea lounge...
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--FoxRoad (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
- It helps you learn how to edit Wikipedia.
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- What I didn't like
- Nothing, it was good.
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- What I wanted more of
- It was O.K.
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- What was unnecessary
- Nothing was unnecessary.
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
- Great game. I like it.
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--Paquito490 (talk) 04:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks!
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- What I liked
This was really helpful and who doesn't like earning badges?!
- What I didn't like
Nothing. This was a great breakdown of the fundamentals.
- What I wanted more of
Maybe more on the images thing. It's still a hard thing to figure out. Also, the various ways to cite sources.
- What was unnecessary
I understand the need to go back to the article and choose responses but it got a little tedious.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
This should be sent as soon as someone creates their account! I didn't find it until well after making my first edits. I could have saved myself some trouble if I had been given this at the start.
--Kobuu (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
I really liked the pacing, focus, and tasks. GREAT learning process that worked! ...
- What I didn't like
Occasionally, the tutorial froze. Hard to go back sometimes (if I got directed to to the wrong screen) ...
- What I wanted more of
The image section & copyright could have used some more depth, similar to the neutral pov information earlier. ...
- What was unnecessary
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
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--Mschwer2 (talk) 16:52, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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Science shows that Earth formed around 4.5 billion years ago. The organisms that live on Earth have completely changed its air (atmosphere); this is called a biosphere. 71% of Earth's surface is covered in salt water oceans. Earth is the only place in the Solar System where liquid water is known to exist at present. The other 29% is made of rocky land in the shape of continents and islands. Earth interacts with other objects in the Solar System, particularly the Sun and the Moon. The Earth orbits the Sun roughly once every 365.25 days. One spin is called a day and one orbit around the Sun is called a year. This is why there are 365 days in a year, but a leap day added to the calendar once every 4 years. Shamiek01* (talk) 21:18, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
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I'm here to learn, explore, understand, create and, hopefully, contribute something of meaning. JessKiddinU (talk) 21:51, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
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I am Racha128, acting is my passion, i'm a sophomore in one of the biggest cuny colleges. i want to be a pediatric nurse because i love children.i love to gain new knowledge and i'm very open to learn new stuffs.i describe myself as an addicted of success unfortunately there no rehab for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Racha1289 (talk • contribs) 02:06, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
i am Racha1289, i am Haitian i was born in croix-des-bouquets the oust side of Haiti. actually i am a sophomore in one of the biggest Cuny colleges in Manhattan. i describe myself as an addicted of success. i want to be a pediatric nurse. i believe in education. my main belief is knowledge is the fundamental core to success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Racha1289 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
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--MrskKathleenjohnson (talk) 03:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC) i thought the Wikiadventure was very helpful. Thank you. I look forward to participating in making knowledge more accessible to all.MrskKathleenjohnson (talk) 03:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)mrskathleenjohnson
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- What I liked
The tutorial, smooth and fun.
- What I didn't like
Nothing, everything was to the point.
- What I wanted more of
I guess this is all I can imagine for now, LOL!!!
- What was unnecessary
Nothing, everything was perfect.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
I will try my best to use this knowledge and improve Wikipedia. Cheers!!!--Saurabhworld 05:53, 6 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saurabhworld1 (talk • contribs)
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Kaitybah (talk) 04:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC) Thanks so much for your friendly welcome User:WillKomen. I can't wait to start editing! Kaitybah (talk) 04:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)--Kaitybah (talk) 04:40, 7 September 2014 (UTC)kaitybah
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Kaitybah (talk) 04:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- Awesome User:GaiaGirl86, it's my favorite planet! How do I get there? Kaitybah (talk) 04:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)--Kaitybah (talk) 04:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)kaitybah
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Obrugal08 (talk) 02:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- Science and Nature Journal looks like a solid and relevant source with a good reputation. I think we can rely on it more than the others for this article. Nice research! Obrugal08 (talk) 02:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for the warm welcome 1993jl (talk) 04:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
Interactive learning experience was fantastic, although formatting will take a bit of getting used to!!
- What I didn't like
It was addictive so kept me past my bedtime!
- What I wanted more of
Want to learn more so I eventually I can contribute to something I be proud of.
- What was unnecessary
The whole journey was necessary and fruitful.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
Keep up the great work. I have been pondering taking the wiki leap. Now i am glad I took it. Apologies for nothing more constructive but I hope to make up for it by contributing to the this fantastic project and community.
--Loveoflearning1 (talk) 00:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
The friendly tone and style of the guide text!
- What I didn't like
If I have to nit-pick, it would be that the purpose of the starred blue buttons wasn't clear in the general flow of things. Do they indicate something optional? Or just a little more detail? There was an information box about it right at the start of the tour, but I couldn't easily apply what I'd read there to the context of the starred blue buttons.
- What I wanted more of
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- What was unnecessary
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
Excellent job! Um... WikiLove to the creators!
--Fvisagie (talk) 14:22, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
"Start the adventure" button broken?
I'm by no means a new editor, but I can't seem to click the big start button. (I've tried this on Firefox 32 and Chromium 37.) Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 22:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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HSEINI.MOHAMMED (talk) 13:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC) Hi I'm Mohammed
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Bonjour, je comprends que ce soit ta planète favorite, c'est vraiment super ! Nicocoo (talk) 13:52, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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Thoughts on a reliable source Nicocoo (talk) 14:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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I'd love to help Aron.banyasz (talk) 14:54, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Science and Nature Journal looks like a solid and relevant source with a good reputation. I think we can rely on it more than the others for this article. Nice research! Julien Colson (talk) 14:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Julien Colson (talk) 14:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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--Fergiedevil (talk) 14:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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ZACH bong (talk) 21:40, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
... The sound files and skimming the text.
- What I didn't like
... Not being able to type and edit!
- What I wanted more of
... The color blue and more pictures!
- What was unnecessary
... The > button when the white button with text appears
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... > and < should be changed to forward and back to be more simplistic --The FedExitor.exe (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
What do you think of TWA?
Greetings Adventurers,
I am working on a project to support the development of current and future newcomer support programs on Wikipedia.
Because you recently participated in The Wikipedia Adventure, I would like to interview you about your experience in this program.
If you are interested, please email me at gmugar [at] syr.edu and hopefully we can find a convenient time to conduct an interview via Skype or Google hangout.
Gabrielm199 (talk) 23:29, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
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Social.S (talk) 15:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
... I was fun, friendly,and totally above my expectations
- What I didn't like
... it told you exactly what to do and left little room for freedom
- What I wanted more of
... the little tracks every time you earned a badge or answered a question correctly or completed a level.
- What was unnecessary
... nothing really (i'm not too good with poining out unneccesaties)
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... the cretor of this game uses a lot of graphics (for wikipedia) and knows a wide variety of music.I think both are cool --Quiet Wanderer (talk) 02:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
...I really liked how everything was guided, and how one thing led to another.
- What I didn't like
...Some of the transitions between activities were a bit choppy, and closing the windows was trouble, because they couldn't come back.
- What I wanted more of
...How to use the new beta source editing features (although honestly those are more straightforward and maybe don't need further explanation)
- What was unnecessary
...All those replies to GaiaGirl. They were useful at first but got repetitive near the end.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...Developers, GREAT JOB on this tutorial. I really liked it. Even though I've been helping out on Wikipedia here and there for years, I didn't know some of the things this tutorial taught me. It was informative and fun. Again, great job, and thank you for your work on Wikipedia!
--Stevenzc (talk) 03:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
- The interactive experience needed to introduce new editors to Wikipedia's various editing possibilities.
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- What I didn't like
- Nothing in particular.
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- What I wanted more of
- It would have been nice if there was a tutorial on how to manually insert wikilinks, pictures, etc.
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- What was unnecessary
- Nothing in particular.
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
- No extra thoughts.
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--PrismAira (talk) 14:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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- What I liked
Learning how to edit Wikipedia.
- What I didn't like
How childish and slow it is.
- What I wanted more of
Information about how to utilise the editor and navigate through the facilities.
- What was unnecessary
The space theme.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
I don't get why this tutorial seems to be aimed at children. Do you expect children or idiots to edit Wikipedia? I would think you would prefer intelligent adults who are capable of grasping a straight forward tutorial orientated toward adults.
--Graham McCormack (talk) 10:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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Wikieditoranduser100 (talk) 16:29, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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Nancyprancy12 (talk) 23:06, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
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Please replace the contents of this page with the contents of the sandbox for HTML5 compliance. Thank you. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 21:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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- It was very friendly and perfectly designed for new users.
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- What I didn't like
- It makes some errors, which can be keep a user completely lost!
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- No comments
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- No comments
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--Ikhtiar H (talk) 11:11, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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Can this not be so confusing? E-e-bayer_lover (Annoy me) 21:09, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Kc2015 (talk) 18:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 18:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Not to be so confusing! @Technical 13: E-e-bayer_lover (Annoy me) 21:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
The Little Blue Creature That Showed Me Around! :-)
- What I didn't like
Nothing.
- What I wanted more of
Hmm...Wikilinks?
- What was unnecessary
Nothing. I learned a lot of new things that I didn't know yet! :-)
- Any other thoughts you want to share
No. --TheTalkerBot (talk) 14:09, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Bug
I'm in the process of testing. I spotted a bug: when creating one's user page, if you save before proceeding with the dialog box, after the page saves, the TWA interface pops up again but you can't advance further because it tells you to save the page first (which you already have done. Thanks, BethOne (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
- I had the same problem. I think I went back and edited again. A new user may know they are supposed to save edits, already, or they may wait for directions... Any ideas on fixing this? Maybe a note to not save it, yet? —PC-XT+ 06:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
I finished testing. Generally, I think that it seems effective in pointing out the key skills for editing Wikipedia; I am not concerned that newbies are not bombarded with the finer points of eg square brackets for links, as they can notice it as they go. The lack of mention of ref templates is a concern. Also the tone is pitched towards a younger demographic. I don't think adult newbies need to be constantly told how amazing they are – a simple "that's correct, well done" would suffice. Similarly you get badges every other click, which IMO demeans them; maybe just one per mission?
Generally, though, good work; if this is effective at attracting good contributors, which I think it should do well (better than the current situation at any rate), I'm happy with it, since it covers most of the basic skill set. Also, to whoever wrote the code, I envy your JavaScript skills! Thanks, BethOne (talk) 15:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC) (alt. of User:BethNaught)
Feedback
I was thinking of using this in a class but found it too confusing. Great start though! Some feedback:
- confusing: "Start the adventure --->". The arrow (in the image) is confusing, makes me think I should click there but I can't.
- confusing: should say "click EDIT SOURCE", as that is the name of the tab.
- warning: warn users not to use the "Edit beta" tab; if you do, you won't be able to see/click the save button.
- confusing: when presented with a selection, the popup says "challenge yourself" and "you can learn as much from trying." However, after I make a selection the popup returns (saying the same thing) and the flow of interaction moves to the page itself which gives a message and "Continue on the adventure" which is very confusing. The pop-up should continue to be directing the meta-flow or say "Success, please click one of the selection on the page."
- pop-up is in the way on the NPOV paste into the edit box.
- confusing: "Copy your message at the bottom," should say "Copy this message in the bottom of the edit box."
- confusing: the "copy" text in general could be improved... "select the text below and copy it (ctrl-c) so you can paste it into the editing window."
- typo, remove comma: "What should we tell Taggy so that they know you understand sourcing policy, and were on your way to adding that info (as soon as you learned how)?"
- confusing: some of the chatty dialogs are confusing, why would I click on a question "Pretty, neat huh?" to proceed?
-Reagle (talk) 21:50, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
- I also found the "Start the adventure --->" thing confusing. —PC-XT+ 06:27, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Why a blue rodent with antlers?
I like rodents but why is there one in the welcome message? Is this the mascot? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- I think this is supposed to represent an alien, specifically Will, as the whole theme is an interstellar meeting about finding out about Earth. Kitty 56 (talk) 23:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
It teaches you how to use the editor and some of the basic rules you need to know to be an asset to Wikipedia.
- What I didn't like
This really doesn't need to be 7 missions. The name "adventure" makes it seem like it's going to be some crazy wild ride through a bunch of portals, where we would learn lots of cool new stuff as we learn to use Wikipedia, but we end up with something fairly underwhelming.
- What I wanted more of
Why not just make the course "Wikipedia for beginners" and then quickfire teach people how to use the editor: editing text, using sources, referencing the sources, etc. And then once people know the basics, take them through a bunch of easy portals. Like animals and plants, food, hobbies, etc. Give them experience editing a wide array of topics and then let them loose.
- What was unnecessary
The badges :/
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The music and the art were cool. The NPCs? were also pretty fun to read. --Singdavion (talk) 20:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC) I liked the badges they kept track of my progress. It took me awhile to understand about the sound recordings. I got confused after Mission 7.Lbhiggin (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
... Very simple and easy to follow. A lot to learn and absorb
- What I didn't like
... Nothing really. Some of the editing process is not so familiar as with other text editors.
- What I wanted more of
... Practice.
- What was unnecessary
... Nothing
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... I just look forward to becoming part of the community and sharing my well of useless knowledge. ;) --Kaphoen (talk) 09:30, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
Perfectly designed for new-users. It teaches new user the basic techniques in editing and some basic policies and is very user-friendly
- What I didn't like
Instructions is a little bit confusing in Mission 1.
- What I wanted more of
More complicated staff. These missions are a bit too basic. Many things are left unexplored
- What was unnecessary
N/A
- Any other thoughts you want to share
The adventure needs more promotion. Many new users will not know the adventure exist unless they were welcomed by that particular template. My suggestion is that the project can send a talk page message to new users, similar to the Teahouse message.
--AdrianGamer (talk) 13:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
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--Taylorleighnelson93 (talk) 02:13, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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...I thought this was really awesome and for a complete beginner like me it was perfect. Thank you!!
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--Mgoodsett1015 (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
- Interesting gamification
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- What I didn't like
- Slightly slow
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--Ish malhotra (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
...Real time learning made interactive, easy to go back if I missed a point and the page is very much helpful to start with.
- What I didn't like
...It is quite good enough.
- What I wanted more of
...I wish to have more of an inline reference making process.
- What was unnecessary
...For any beginners nothing would go in vain. Everything has put from grassroot level and that is not burden some.
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...I am much satisfied. The Adventure part is really helping me to understand things in a creastive and collaborative manner! Thanks Wiki Team.
--Jacklamkang (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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...great concept and very helpfulAJAYGEORGEAKKARA (talk) 15:34, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
--AJAYGEORGEAKKARA (talk) 15:34, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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I would like to see more articles in Haitian Creole.
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--Oaurelien (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
... Easy access, quick learning, and pretty much everything.
- What I didn't like
... Nothing
- What I wanted more of
... Nothing everything was covered
- What was unnecessary
... Nothing it was all good
- Any other thoughts you want to share
... no --Reaper50 (talk) 19:25, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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The interactive game had some good examples of how to cite and edit pages. It was much to simple for a beginner though
- What I liked
- Once I got the hang of it the going was smooth.
...The page was never lost. I could always go back to user talk page and click on where I left of in the mission.
- What I didn't like
- The initial instructions could be more clearly defined
...Nothing really. Just theme was childish.
- What I wanted more of
- More practice so as to feel more comfortable
...Citing references and also section editing.
- What was unnecessary
...more practice with exterior links.
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...If it were any easier I wouldn't have learned a thing.
--Metlifecc (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
It was a great tool for beginners. I really liked the stars and the celebration music at the end of each mission.
- What I didn't like
Sometimes, when I had to add the summary comment and save, the game stacked and I had to start from the begging the section.
- What I wanted more of
This is a great tool for beginners. Maybe it could be nice if you add some more advanced tools.
- What was unnecessary
Hmm, I didn't feel that anything was unnecessary.
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Really nice concept and very helpful.
--EVDiam (talk) 02:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
It is a very simple tutorial that allows to have a look at all the functions of Wikipedia. Feels like a game and makes it easy to learn.
- What I didn't like
I didn't like the fact that sometimes they were some bugs. Sometimes it blocked and I had to edit and save several times in order to get to the next page.
- What I wanted more of
It would be good to be able to go even more into details as an option.
- What was unnecessary
Nothing, very good indeed.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
No thanks
--MaximEurActivCM (talk) 10:30, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
Everything shown was decent.
- What I didn't like
Opened multiple browser windows (10 to be exact), the window that I wasn't allowed to close without starting over kept blocking the edit box and making it harder to complete tasks, didn't show me how to get rid of that annoying red box up top, some of the sections were too drawn out with multiple clicks.
--3gg5amp1e (talk) 18:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
...Quick to provide information, not stuffed down your throat, engaging.
- What I didn't like
...Missed out some core features, told you to copy and paste images etc from the box instead of finding them, and doesn't teach how to type the shortcuts. Didn't teach how to check new notifications etc.
- What I wanted more of
...Basically, the above.
- What was unnecessary
...None.
- Any other thoughts you want to share
...This was great and informative, thanks! I've been editing anonymously for a while so I new most of this, but it was still helpful.
--KieranTribe (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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- What I liked
- I liked how easy it was to understand you used plain english to teach us
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- What I didn't like
- Sometimes it would make me go back and start over when I would come back to it after being away
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- What I wanted more of
- More examples to do of editing
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- What was unnecessary
- Nothing in my opinion
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- Any other thoughts you want to share
- Thank you for having The Wikipedia Adventure to start us on our Wikipedia Journey
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