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The RedWarn team is currently in the process of renaming to Ultraviolet. Some documentation pages are still in the process of being written/transferred. Read the announcement here.

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FYI: The RedWarn team is currently working hard on developing the new technologies for Ultraviolet. Because of this, we are only providing minimal support and bug fixes for RedWarn 16.1. We appreciate your patience :)

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Going Ultraviolet

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Hello there! By now, you may have already noticed that RedWarn hasn't had any major updates since 16.1 (released on March 8, 2021), and we've only been sending out some minor patches and bugfixes since then. In that time, we've been hard at work developing a complete rewrite of the project since September 2020, and we've finally done enough work to be able to release a beta version of this rewrite soon.

Because of many different factors, including the rewrite having diverged so much from the original code, the team has decided to give this version of RedWarn a brand new name. We've decided to call it Ultraviolet; electromagnetic radiation found past the opposite side of red on the visible light spectrum. Releases of the userscript will eventually be available on user pages of 10nm — 10 nanometers being the smallest possible wavelength of ultraviolet light. We're still working on getting a user-friendly version of Ultraviolet available; we ask for your patience as we get closer to releasing more feature-filled builds of Ultraviolet.

Is this a new script or just a rebranded version of RedWarn?

In essence, Ultraviolet is a rewritten version of RedWarn. That said, most of the original code has been removed or replaced. Significant work has also been done to make the process of using the script smooth and universal, removing nearly all of the UI-related bugs experienced in the current version of RedWarn. In addition, we're also working on Safari support, mobile usability, internationalization (other languages), wiki-specific configurations, a dark mode, and a lot more features that make Ultraviolet just work out of the box.

What this means for RedWarn

For a while, we've been holding off on development of further versions of RedWarn in favor of the rewrite. Expanding on the current code is a feat that would take a significant amount of time, on par with just rewriting the script itself. For now, RedWarn will still be supported and given security updates and patches for minor bugs. Once Ultraviolet has been completed and integrates all the features of RedWarn, we will decommission RedWarn and ask users to switch to the new userscript.

What this means for you, as a user

Stick to RedWarn while we're still working on implementing all the features of RedWarn into Ultraviolet. Rest assured, we will still provide updates that prioritize user safety and security, so you can still use RedWarn without the fear of compromise. We highly recommend to anyone who does counter-vandalism patrol often to use only RedWarn for now in order to avoid any catastrophic bugs. We're still finishing up on making the script backwards-compatible with your existing RedWarn configuration, after that we'll begin providing beta versions of Ultraviolet, so that anyone who wishes to use Ultraviolet before it has caught up with RedWarn can do so.

You'll be able to keep on using RedWarn until we've made our first release version (i.e. 1.0) of Ultraviolet. After that, we will require you to switch to Ultraviolet from RedWarn, as we will be dropping support for RedWarn. Although this may be a bit of a bother, we ask for your patience in this eventual transition.

What else this means

We'll be moving away from the RedWarn name entirely in the coming months. The team believes it's important to move away from the name, as most of Ultraviolet has been built from scratch and holds little to no resemblance to RedWarn (at least in terms of the code), and due to some other reasons.

This is a big milestone for us as userscript developers, and we hope to have your full support. In case you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to ask us about them below. Thanks!

Written by Chlod, Berrely, Sennecaster, and Remagoxer. Published by Chlod (RW • say hi!) 19:39, 22 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@Chlod, is there any update on the progress of this? There's no rush, just curious. — Qwerfjkl talk 21:34, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, @Qwerfjkl! The developers are currently busy on a few things, me specifically being busy (in recent months) with Deputy, although now that the bulk of the starting work on that has wrapped up, I can start working on Ultraviolet again. In the meantime, we've been doing some background work that'll help us facilitate the move from GitLab.org to Wikimedia GitLab, and we're currently planning how to perform that migration within the near future. Next up on the list of major features up for implementation is a module for marking pages for speedy deletion, so that's on my list of things to research. Hope this answers your question! Chlod (UV • say hi!) 03:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Chlod, is UV is in full swing operation or still in the process of moving? ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 21:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's still moving but close to completion, I would advise to remain with redwarn as UV is still in beta and doesn't have all the features of redwarn fully implemented. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 21:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up @Zippybonzo. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 04:58, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@98Tigerius: All of our old RedWarn pages have moved already. We just haven't changed the top banner since UV doesn't have a 1.0 release yet. Right now, UV is already equipped with a lot of the basic features, and it's just a matter of porting all of the old features back in (and for MAT and Quick Templates, redesigning the process entirely). Implementing these would benefit a sprint, but it's slowly been just me doing the work as other members of the team have been busy with real life things (and so have I). I don't like giving timetables when I don't know if I can fulfill it, so there's no estimations on when UV 1.0 will be out. @Zippybonzo's right in that UV still lacks features, but if you don't use anything in Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/Compatibility matrix labeled "Not yet", then switching over shouldn't be an issue. Ultimately it's up to you on whether you'd like to switch or not. Chlod (UV • say hi!) 07:37, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great and thanks a lot for giving more info about the progress of UV. I already used UV for short period but switch back to RW. You are doing well and all development team, keep it up! ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 13:50, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Port to other language wikis

How to port it to, let's say, Википедия — свободная энциклопедия (wikipedia.org) ? What to read to start? Thanks! ManyAreasExpert (talk) 13:38, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Template

I was wondering when the Quick Template button will be implemented. I assume it's for adding a warning for the displayed edit to the user talk directly from the diff page. Currently it says "This feature has not been implemented yet". Frost 06:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For warnings, there's already the "warn" button once you revert. I'm not sure what quick template does. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 10:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's more for the welcome messages, and problem welcome messages. This Wikipedia:RedWarn/Documentation/Quick_Template is what is was in RedWarn. Hopefully we'll see it here in UW at some point. Ravensfire (talk) 16:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP-specific recent changes

Hello, Ultraviolet is a great tool, but there's a feature that should be implemented, which is the Recent IP edits, so you can see the list of recent edits made by IP users. This feature is used to find vandalism. Great for recent changes patrollers! Susbush (talk) 14:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can see that in standard recent changes, without any tool, just go into the "filter changes" field, search for "unregistered", and select it. (also adding a title to this section and splitting it, as different discussions usually aren't mixed up). — Alien 3
3 3 15:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feature request: Check amount of IP users active in the last 5 minutes, it would be displayed at the bottom of the page. (change in settings) Susbush (talk) 02:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently that's not technically possible without extensive API polling. Also not a very useful metric for judging vandalism. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 10:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is dark mode compatibility and the Quick Template feature? Susbush (talk) 12:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by where? ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 07:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

that means when the feature will be added Susbush (talk) 11:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AIV reporting button doesn't use correct formatting when you add a comment

Hi! Loving UV so far, thanks for making it!

Just one thing, when I use the AIV report button in UV, and add a comment, like I did here [1], the comment doesn't appear with the bullet point for the vandal but rather underneath the entire vandal bullet point list.

This means that the comment stays, even after the user has been blocked and the report auto-removed by the bot [2] and the comment lingers around for a while, even when it doesn't make sense anymore in context, untill an admin notices and removes it [3].

Thanks! Molecular Pilot 08:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the report! Should be fixed in 0bd406c. This change strips the whitespace from the beginning and end of both the comment and the reason, hopefully preventing this problem.

The change will be live when !11 is merged and deployed by Chlod. ―sportzpikachu _{my talkcontribs} 16:11, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deployed! Chlod (UV • say hi!) 20:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) Molecular Pilot 22:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

idea

Can you please add the ability to change what undo buttons are visible when looking at edits oh and make the disruptive edit revert button visible by default thanks, Daisytheduck ^{quack quack} 02:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]