Wikipedia talk:Ultraviolet/2024/March

Talk page section headings using local time

Hi, it appears that when creating a new section for a user warning, the tool uses local time, possibly leading to inconsistencies (and seemingly not seeing earlier warnings), like at User talk:2600:1700:1150:5BB0:B99B:E02E:3690:CC90. Using UTC for detecting warnings and creating section headers should solve the issue – this file just needs to use date.getUTCMonth() and date.getUTCFullYear() instead of the local time equivalents. Tollens (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Talkpages

Hello! I haven't tried to use Redwarn myself, so I don't know how it looks from a user perspective, but I have a comment.

@98Tigerius reverted me here [1], apparently using redwarn. However, this was at a talkpage. On talkpages, non-RS sources are sometimes used and discussed in a way they can't be in articles. I don't know what 98Tigerius was "told" by redwarn, but should/could the talkpage aspect of it have been made clearer somehow? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:10, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

That looks like user error. Redwarn, and UV (at least to my knowledge), simply show you a series of buttons above the "latest revision" when comparing diffs. The user in question can, and should, see that the edits were to Talk:BTS rather than BTS. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 18:44, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Make softer worded copyvio notice the default?

This is an issue that I have came across often and if anyone requests diffs for them I can provide a few. Basically, the issue is that for both RW and UV, when I press "quick rollback copyright violation" and proceed to warn the user, the default template selected is {{Uw-copyright}}.

I feel like this is an issue as far too many users have been using this template for users who barely made any edits, which could be biting newcomers. I think {{Uw-copyright-new}} should be the default template instead. I'm not sure if this change could be made with RW, but with UV I believe there is some kind of .json page (I lost track of which) that easily allows you to change this. I was going to try find that page and boldly change this, but I then thought I would rather get some discussion first. Any opinions on this? User3749 (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I found that .json page I was talking about, Wikipedia:Ultraviolet/configuration.json. However since this is a significant change I won't implement this until there is discussion and consensus for this change. User3749 (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

As a copyright-focused editor, sounds good to me! We know when to use the stricter warning anyways (and repeat offenders should be sent to WP:ANI/WP:CCI anyways); using the less strict warning as a default for vandalism-focused editors sounds just fine. Chlod (UV • say hi!) 15:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

There's also an issue with that page where the warning for {{Uw-editsummary}} says "not using edit comment" which doesn't make sense. I changed that one word but it somehow ended up removing a lot of text so I just self reverted. User3749 (talk) 15:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

That's normal; the JSON file hasn't been updated since JSON began being indented using tabs. I've null edited (not really) the file to have it reformatted. Further changes.

Question about RedWarn Patrol

How do I know what edits are bad or good? - Master of Hedgehogs ^{(converse) (hate that hedgehog!)} 12:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)