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WikiProject Football was featured in a WikiProject Report in the Signpost on 3 March 2008.

This WikiProject was featured on the WikiProject report at the Signpost on 9 July 2012.

On 4 August 2022, it was proposed that this page be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Association football. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Wayne Bridge

It seems that Bridge has been involved in a spat with a so called internet personality KSI which has been bigged up into several sections in Bridge’s article. Can his “boxing career” be trimmed to a mention in the Personal life section? Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 10:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. I am also surprised that the (now cancelled) “fight” warrants a standalone article (KSI vs Wayne Bridge) can this now be prodded for deletion.Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 10:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have no issues with it being a separate section. Giant Snowman 18:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability question

I created this article: Draft:Lucas Jetten, but it was moved into draft space because apparently it wasn't notable. I always thought that if a player made their debut in a fully professional league then we could create an article about them. Is that no longer the case? There's a bunch of players who've made their professional debut who I wanted to create articles about, but I'd like to be sure those articles aren't going to be deleted. Gman83 (talk) 07:59, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gman83: - that hasn't been the case since 2018 -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. It only stopped being a thing in 2024. Muur (talk) 15:30, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Upon double checking in the correct place as opposed to the wrong one, the relevant edit would seem to be this one from 2022. Regardless, it isn't a thing any more, which is the main thing -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Walker

Hi, would someone mind reverting the recent changes at Kyle Walker? His move to AC Milan is reportedly close but hasn't been completed yet. I'd do so myself but I'm on three reverts. Thanks. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Giant Snowman 21:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Valley Parade

Historically it was called Valley Parade, but very recently its been officially renamed University of Bradford Stadium. So should the article be moved to its new official name, or should it keep the more common name people associate with it? Harizotoh9 (talk) 06:00, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We'd still use the WP:COMMONNAME, especially since stadium sponsors change a lot. SportingFlyer T·C 06:05, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sponsored names of stadiums are never used unless the stadium has literally no other name. See also Dean Court, Brisbane Road, Sincil Bank, Madejski Stadium, etc -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As a season ticket holder - nobody calls it 'University of Bradford Stadium'! Giant Snowman 10:32, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Brisbane Strikers FC players

Please can we have some eyes at Brisbane Strikers FC and on StrikersFan (talk · contribs), and the absolute carnage that is Brisbane Strikers FC#Notable players and coaches. I removed it and it's been restored. It needs to be removed again. Giant Snowman 21:06, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries like this suggest issues with WP:OWN and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Giant Snowman 21:08, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely excessive. It could work in a separate article on the players (List of Brisbane Strikers FC), but listing out every player who had played for another professional team would still be excessive for a separate list. Sounder Bruce 00:22, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't there been a few lower tier professional American clubs that have been getting their lists axed here recently? Like I know WP:OSE and all but I just can't imagine such an article having notability for this club given all the redlinks that are already there. Jay eyem (talk) 04:38, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that listing literally every player who played for the club and also played professionally is definitely excessive. And do we really need to note that a former player is currently playing in the eleventh tier of English football.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the section, thanks all. There is scope for a list on the main articles of some players if there is a defined inclusion criteria and sources - see e.g. Bradford City A.F.C.#Former players. I don't think a separate article would be notable. Giant Snowman 09:10, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I take the point re: the full list, but surely the list of international players in noteworthy. StrikersFan (talk) 21:40, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As much as POV wording in football articles is frustrating to read, it’s sometimes comical enough that I can’t bring myself to fix it on sight. This article is one of those. Seasider53 (talk) 21:50, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be good with a compromise to keep it in a reasonable length. Maybe if it's restricted to players who played for the club at senior level (ie not players who played like U12 and the left - for example Lytton Brooks who was on the list) and who represented a national team at senior international level, but have it as just a bulleted list, rather than the full detail shown there? Seeing as there were 32 names at international, probably drops to like 20-25 which could be a 5x5 list. RedPatch (talk) 23:20, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Something like

The following players have played for Brisbane as well at international level

RedPatch (talk) 23:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Live Scores

Pease can a admin have a word with @AlexWanderer1192 Repeatedly ignoring warnings on live scores. Might listen then. Spare Koppers (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have left them a message. If it happens again please let me know and I will give a final warning, and then I will block if continues. Giant Snowman 22:01, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of 1989–90 Qods League

The article 1989–90 Qods League has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved for 15 years. No sources either in Polish or Indonesian articles.

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Request for Article Assessment

Hello, I would like to request an assessment of the Espérance Sportive de Tunis article. I believe it could qualify as a B-Class article Or maybe more. Any feedback or suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! EL major (talk) 19:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From a brief scan of the article I could see several minor errors in punctuation, grammar and style. I don't wish to be overly critical on an article that is clearly detailed and well maintained, nor do I have the time right now to fix those issues personally, but my opinion would be that C Class is indeed the most appropriate classification for its present version

Crowsus (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your feedback and for taking the time to review the article! I appreciate your perspective on its current status. Since contributing to the page, I've made several updates, including adding new information and references, particularly regarding the club’s participation in the upcoming Club World Cup. I've also made efforts to improve the article’s clarity and style, aiming for a cleaner presentation.

If you have the time, I would be grateful if you could revisit those minor errors you mentioned, as your expertise would be incredibly valuable in refining the article further. EL major (talk) 21:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Article Protection

Hello, I would like to request protection for the Espérance Sportive de Tunis article, ideally until the end of July 2025. With the team participating in the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup, many new fans will be seeking information about the club. Given the increase in traffic and interest, it’s likely that the article could face vandalism or unconstructive edits.

Protection would help ensure that the article remains accurate and reliable during this period of heightened attention. Since the tournament’s marketing will soon ramp up, having this protection in place could help avoid disruptions while maintaining the article’s quality.

Thank you for considering this request. EL major (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can request that a page get protected at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. But before you make a request, you should read WP:NO-PREEMPT. I don't think a pre-emptive request will be successful. Wburrow (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you EL major (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]