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- Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
- Nominator's comments: OK, it's been a little while since I've been on this side of ACR. I did some research on this article a couple months ago as part of my Good Article pledge for this year, and I think the article turned out great. Once I was done, I thought it could go places after GAN. I've let it sit for a couple months, so now it's time to get out the polish. Depending on the feedback here, I may take it to FAC. Or not.
- Nominated by: –Fredddie™ 18:34, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- First comment occurred: 00:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comments - I have some concerns with the article before I can support it for A-class:
- The lead could use some more detail, such as the physical surroundings of the route and roads that it intersects.
- What sort of detail? Please elaborate. –Fredddie™
- Say that the road passes through rural areas of agriculture along with the towns. You can also list the intersections it has with other notable numbered routes. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, lead expanded. I rearranged it a bit so the first paragraph talks about the towns and the intersecting roads, the second describes the scenery, and the third was unchanged. –Fredddie™ 16:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Say that the road passes through rural areas of agriculture along with the towns. You can also list the intersections it has with other notable numbered routes. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- What sort of detail? Please elaborate. –Fredddie™
- When Iowa 150 was rerouted over Iowa 101, was the former alignment abandoned in that cars could not travel on it anymore? If not, I would find a better word than "abandoned" to use here.
- Done. –Fredddie™
- You missed an instance in the lead. I also do not think "vacated" is a good alternative in the "Iowa Highway 920" section. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. –Fredddie™
- In the route description, you use "turns" a lot. Can some of these instances be replaced?
- The sentence "South of the unincorporated community of Festina, the route straightened out on its way to Calmar." needs to be reworded.
- The route description could use more information about the physical surroundings. Does the route pass homes or businesses in the towns that it runs through? Does the route pass through farmland or woodland in the countryside?
- I have listed courthouses, race tracks, river crossings, and and mentioned an area called "Little Switzerland". What exactly would you like? –Fredddie™
- Mention that in the rural areas that it passes farmland and in the towns where it passes homes and businesses. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I am going to defer to more comments on this. Small towns in Iowa are highly repetitive for lack of a better word. They have houses, a central business district, more houses, and a gas station or two. To say this for every town through which the highway passes would be horribly dry writing, I'm afraid. –Fredddie™ 04:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I haven't even read the article, but from reading the comments, I am highly skeptical that this will add anything of value to the article. --Rschen7754 04:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Now that I've let it sit for a while, I think I'll add a little more to the rural parts, but you're right; it won't add much value to talk about every town in great detail. –Fredddie™ 04:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- With the additions to the lead, I feel that the scene is sufficiently set that you'll see a lot of cornfields. This is not an extraordinary claim for Iowa. –Fredddie™ 16:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Now that I've let it sit for a while, I think I'll add a little more to the rural parts, but you're right; it won't add much value to talk about every town in great detail. –Fredddie™ 04:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I haven't even read the article, but from reading the comments, I am highly skeptical that this will add anything of value to the article. --Rschen7754 04:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I am going to defer to more comments on this. Small towns in Iowa are highly repetitive for lack of a better word. They have houses, a central business district, more houses, and a gas station or two. To say this for every town through which the highway passes would be horribly dry writing, I'm afraid. –Fredddie™ 04:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Mention that in the rural areas that it passes farmland and in the towns where it passes homes and businesses. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I have listed courthouses, race tracks, river crossings, and and mentioned an area called "Little Switzerland". What exactly would you like? –Fredddie™
- For the first part of the history section, I would add a header such as "Former routes".
- The sentence "In Cedar Rapids in the 1950s, as today's highway system was beginning to take shape, Iowa 150 was rerouted a couple times." needs to be reworded.
- Again, how so? –Fredddie™
- I would suggest moving around some of the words. "During the 1950s as today's highway system was beginning to take shape, Iowa 150 was rerouted a couple times in Cedar Rapids." would work. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- When I read your version, I think it's missing a comma. I will defer to future comments from others on this sentence. –Fredddie™
- I think Dough's version is better, but with a comma after 1950s. --Rschen7754 22:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, done. I also fixed what would have been the word "reroute" twice in close succession. –Fredddie™ 04:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think Dough's version is better, but with a comma after 1950s. --Rschen7754 22:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- When I read your version, I think it's missing a comma. I will defer to future comments from others on this sentence. –Fredddie™
- I would suggest moving around some of the words. "During the 1950s as today's highway system was beginning to take shape, Iowa 150 was rerouted a couple times in Cedar Rapids." would work. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Again, how so? –Fredddie™
- The sentence "In Iowa 150's case, the route was truncated at US 151 in Cedar Rapids, the duplications along US 151, Iowa 13, US 30, and Iowa 38 were removed, and the remaining segment from Tipton to Davenport was renumbered Iowa 130." is long and choppy. It may help to split it into two sentences.
- Same concerns with abandoned being used to describe the former part of Iowa 150 that became Iowa 920. Dough4872 00:42, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. –Fredddie™ 02:12, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- See comment above. Dough4872 02:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. –Fredddie™ 02:12, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - My issues have been addressed. Dough4872 19:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Review by Rschen7754
Review pending. --Rschen7754 20:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Will review shortly, but one thing that strikes me is that there are few non-DOT map sources. We don't care about this at GAN, but I usually include a disclaimer at the A-class level, because they do not always like that. --Rschen7754 08:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I am withdrawing this nomination. –Fredddie™ 03:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.