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[edit]06:21:59, 18 December 2020 review of submission by RudiWikiWriter
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Please can you provide some information why the article is declined. This is my first Wiki so just need some guideline to get started. Thank you.
RudiWikiWriter (talk) 06:21, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- @RudiWikiWriter: Wikipedia may not be used for advertising or "spreading the word about something or somebody. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:37, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
13:13:25, 18 December 2020 review of submission by Nafeesaakma
[edit]I have been contacted by many people to pay them to write the Wikipage that I'm working on. One company charging between $699-$1999. Is this Legit? I am finding it so hard to make time to continue with the wiki page.
Nafeesaakma (talk) 13:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Nafeesaakma It's difficult to know if the business sending you these messages is reputable. Paid editing is allowed as long as it is declared by the person editing for compensation, per the paid editing policy. That said, no matter what they tell you, they can make no guarantees (such as writing an article that won't be deleted) and you should not hand over any money until you see what they come up with. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Sure, thanks. I have tried to publish the page but I guessed it's not good enough. Thanks, I have to put more effort to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nafeesaakma (talk • contribs) 13:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
14:05:16, 18 December 2020 review of submission by MisterTech
[edit]- MisterTech (talk · contribs)
I've added some additional references. The subject is featured in The Belfast Telegraph, The Ulster Star, The Irish Mirror, The Irish News, The News Letter etc. Generally speaking, are Irish newspapers not considered reliable enough to establish notability?
MisterTech (talk) 14:05, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Rejected for the reasons explained on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
14:27:00, 18 December 2020 review of submission by Msfc3011
[edit]My article draft has been rejected on the basis of a lack of adequate references showing notability. I'm surprised at this given that i used a lot of references that showed the subject of the article writing expert opinion articles in respected news outlets. As an academic expert the bulk of coverage showing her as notable is by her about a subject she is expert in, rather than about her. Is it impossible to be recognised as notable on this basis?
Also, i'd appreciate any advice on the language in the article that falls short of being objective.
Thanks
Msfc3011 (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Msfc3011. Avoid citing things written by Fieschi. They are, by definition, not independent of her, so cannot demonstrate notability. You need sources about what Fieschi has written, such as book reviews. The draft cites a couple, but they're almost lost among the other references. Prune vigorously to make them stand out. I've added a few more in a comment on the draft. Although in theory it's possible to show that an academic is notable by showing that they're frequently quoted as an expert in mainstream media (WP:PROF criterion #7), it's usually easier to convince reviewers of notability if you can prove criterion #1 through citations and book reviews. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
14:48:25, 18 December 2020 review of draft by ScanlonB
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Asking for help on this page. Sources have been updated. Is it still missing something?
ScanlonB (talk) 14:48, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
15:40:08, 18 December 2020 review of submission by Mohan Upadhyaya
[edit]Because I think this is the perfect article which should be posted in Wikipedia. Please accept it my lord Mohan Upadhyaya (talk) 15:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Mohan Upadhyaya: I am afraid that your logic is mistaken. The current Draft fails The second Pillar of Wikipedia, as it is unferifyable. Please note that autobiographys are strongely discouraged. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
16:33:16, 18 December 2020 review of draft by CHANDRANTKL123
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CHANDRANTKL123 (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
16:42:28, 18 December 2020 review of draft by Normhowe
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I'm trying to submit an article for review. I tried to add a project team tag but I get a notice that says "Please check the draft page title. It doesn't seem to be in draft namespace". The title, Quality culture, is at the top of the article. How do I fix this?
Normhowe (talk) 16:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Normhowe: the input box there expects the draft title including the "Draft:"-prefix. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks!
17:25:01, 18 December 2020 review of submission by 73.243.9.244
[edit]- 73.243.9.244 (talk · contribs)
Kyle kulinski is quite important, we has around 925,000 subscribers over 300,000 twitter followers, there are people who are way less important and the fact he doesn’t have a page is against the spirit of Wikipedia. He was became a regular member on the most popular podcast in the world, with one of his podcasts having over 10,000,000 views. He has been interviewed on mainstream media like Fox News and has drawn hundreds, possibly even thousands to hear him speak, so saying he isn’t relevant is rediculous. 73.243.9.244 (talk) 17:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
17:33:59, 18 December 2020 review of submission by 73.243.9.244
[edit]- 73.243.9.244 (talk · contribs)
Can I please have an answer as to why This isn’t seen as a “relevant topic”, I feel this page is quite unbiased, highlights what he believes and and gives relevant and factual information on things like where he went to college, controversies, and more. I mean He co-founded one of the most influential PAC’s in the 2010’s which whether you agree or disagree with his political beliefs, you should not censor his right for people to know about him. So I’m asking if you can give an example for how he isn’t relevant, and if you can give me another example of this being used against a non political figure, or a right wing political figure. Wikipedia should endorse freedom of speech and if I can’t hear a relevant answer then I will boycott the site for literally committing censorship. 73.243.9.244 (talk) 17:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- The draft has been rejected 5 times and has also been the subject of an WP:AFD and poor quality sources like Twitter, YouTube, Daily Express, Fox News and blogs. Theroadislong (talk) 18:11, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
18:23:53, 18 December 2020 review of submission by Chromacast
[edit]- Chromacast (talk · contribs)
Chromacast (talk) 18:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
20:41:54, 18 December 2020 review of submission by Bibliojo
[edit]Tyrone Paterson is a red name in several wikipedia articles including the Calgary Boys Choir , Calgary Opera, Opera Lyra Ottawa and Medea. Tyrone had an active career in Canada, and has conducted more operas in Canada than anyone else. The world and wikipedia needs more Canada. There are articles focused on Tyrone Paterson and his work in several reputable sources, such as Opera Canada, The Calgary Herald and the Ottawa Citizen
Bibliojo (talk) 20:41, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- I might be able to have a look tomorrow. Note to self: Last reviewer was indeffed for UPE and lickely WP:SOCK. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:50, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Lets check what we got here:
| Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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| https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Capital+ambitions%3a+as+Opera+Lyra+Ottawa+celebrates+its+quarter...-a0227073561 | ~ To some extent what the subject said |  Probbably reliable newspaper archive, though there are concerns about wether the site has permission to hsot the content
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A few lengthely paragraphs
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~ Partial |
| Citron, Paula. "Pit principles: in the first of a two-part series, Paula Citron asks our leading opera conductors how they prepare a score." Opera Canada, vol. 43, no. 4, Winter 2002, p. 18+. | Appears to be independent, though I had a hard time grabbing a searchable URL
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Likely reliable
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a few paragraphs
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✔ Yes |
| https://cdm22007.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/gazette/id/4219/rec/1 | Appears to be independent
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Independent newspaper
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A whole newspaper side
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✔ Yes |
| https://search.proquest.com/docview/243995342 | ? Paywall | ? Paywall | ? Paywall | ? Unknown |
| Mazey, Steven. "Capital ambitions: as Opera Lyra Ottawa celebrates its quarter-century, Artistic Director Tyrone Paterson reflects on the company's progress." Opera Canada | ~ Somewhat dependent on the subject | Probbably reliable
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A lengthely article
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~ Partial |
| https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/opera-lyra-ottawa-emc | Appears to be independent
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Likely reliable
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 More about the company, less of this subject
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✘ No |
| https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Capital+proposition:+fifteen+years+on,+Ottawa%27s+Opera+Lyra+looks+set...-a030396175 | Likely independent, though I have concerns about wether the site is allowed to host this
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Probbably reliable source
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About half the article
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✔ Yes |
| Citron, P. (2003). Create & command.(opera conductor’s job). Opera Canada, 44(1) | ? Failed to get something checkable | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| https://link.galegroup.com/apps/doc/A227073561/CPI?sid=lms | ? Paywall | ? Paywall | ? Paywall | ? Unknown |
| Jennings, Sarah. A capital proposition. Opera Canada. Summer, 2000. | ? Could not find the source online | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/opera-lyra-ottawa-emc | Likely independent report
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Probbably reliable
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more about the company
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✘ No |
| Joseph So (Competitions and Awards)The third annual Vivian Asfar Memorial Award for Vocal Excellence. Opera Canada 2003 (Vol. 44, Issue 2.) | ? Source not found | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| https://ontarioartsfoundation.on.ca/news/50 | independent report about a prize
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Likely reliable
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No covarage about the person
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✘ No |
| Roston, Margo. 2006. Ottawa's top 50 worth watching: [final edition]. The Ottawa Citizen, Apr 17, 2006. | ? Source not fund | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Saturday+afternoon+at+the+opera.-a0232824833 | An Opera house talking about their shows
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? Due to independence somethign you have to be carefull with | directory listing
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✘ No |
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOGfNnsbSbY&feature=youtu.be | ? Record of an Opera. | Probbably reliable
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Virtual no coverage of this subject
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✘ No |
| https://www.ndm.cz/en/opera/inscenation/33-jenufa/ | An Opera talking about one of their shows
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~ Not independent, thus questionable | Coverage about the show, not the artist
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✘ No |
| https://ricerca.repubblica.it/repubblica/archivio/repubblica/2006/06/16/una-medea-per-la-sinfonica.html | Independent report
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Probbably reliable
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Virtually no coverage, more about the show
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✘ No |
| Ein Vivat dem Dirigenten Tyrone Paterson, der mit Augenmerk für die Dreh- und Angelpunkte der durchkomponierten Materie die Partitur in einen “leuchtenden Fluss” verwandelte.” Otello. Ursula Mielke, Thüringer Allgemeine | ? No checkable source location found | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| "WorldCat Identities". Choice Reviews Online. 47 (12): 47–6587-47-6587. 2010-08-01. doi:10.5860/choice.47-6587. ISSN 0009-4978. | ? Subscription required | ? | ? | ? Unknown |
| This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. | ||||
- Note that I have been unable to chekc quite a few sources due to paywalls, subscription-only content or failure to find an online-checkable source. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)