Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 January 5

Following mass redirect of non-notable annual articles only three links. All remaining links currently can be found through the main article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So, you first remove (by redirecting) a load of articles without AfD, then empty the template to get that one removed too? That seems to be the standard pattern regarding figure skating templates...The Banner talk 21:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For over ten years, they had no sources to prove notability. That is allowed and has been done on articles for other subjects. You don't always need to go to Afd. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And did you try to find any sources to rescue the articles? Did you report the lack of sources to any relevant wikiprojects? Or did you just cut them. The Banner talk 14:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I did. There was nothing. WikiProjects don't have to be informed for something like this. Over a decade and no sources. Hardly anybody from the project improved the articles. Taking the articles redirected to Afd would result in all articles ending in the same outcome of redirect or delete. And all Afd's of late for these skating articles have had the same result. No violation is occurring here. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have just added the 2025 championships to the template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Four links. Still short. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ETA

Template:ETA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template hasn't been used as a metric since 2008; recommend subst and delete. Primefac (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No longer in use. ~ trialsanderrors (talk) 07:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nowiki and samp

Template:Nowiki and samp (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template does not appear to have found much need or use, as it is only used a handful of times on talk pages and only once in a template /doc. I could maybe see this being merged into {{samp}} with a |nowiki= parameter or similar, but otherwise I don't see much need to keep this around. Primefac (talk) 20:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found {{nwt}} convenient at the time. Shrug. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Piruetten

Template:Piruetten (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Individual articles were redirected to the parent article years ago, leaving this template unnecessary. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:North American champions in figure skating – Fours

Template:North American champions in figure skating – Fours (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Long-obsolete event renders this an unhelpful template. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Skate Israel

Template:Skate Israel (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Non-notable figure skating competition. All individual articles have been redirected to the parent article, rendering this template unnecessary. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Italian Figure Skating Championships

Template:Italian Figure Skating Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Following mass redirect of non-notable annual articles and redirects. Only two links. All remaining links currently can be found through the main article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have returned 2014 Italian Figure Skating Championships to article status and cleaned it up. It wasn't lacking for sources; in fact, it had more sources than I am used to. Sadly, it was the last year that anyone bothered to create an article for, so anything since then will have to be created from scratch. As that is a big undertaking, we should delete this template for now, and we can always re-create it down the line should circumstances change. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Austrian Figure Skating Championships

Template:Austrian Figure Skating Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No more links to any articles as they all have been redirected for no sources or in depth coverage and not being notable after over a decade since creation or after four years. Template is no longer needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I’d have gotten around to sending those articles to AFD in time. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cite WS

Template:Cite WS (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The template has been marked as deprecated and to replace with {{citation|title-link=s:wikisource-title}}. Gonnym (talk) 14:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WCSP

Template:WCSP (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The website has been changed and is now giving "Page not found" errors. The template has been marked as deprecated and to replace with Template:Cite POWO. Gonnym (talk) 14:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

However, it's not a simple case of replacing a template; accepted species may have changed, and there's no automatic way of mapping the old WCSP URL to the new PoWO one. The template should not be deleted while it has over 1,200 transclusions. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:40, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox language

Template:Infobox language (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox proto-language (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox language with Template:Infobox proto-language.
I think {{infobox proto-language}} should be merged into {{infobox language}} because I think it's too small and little used to be kept separate from the latter template, only being used on 176 articles now, and because the only parameters unique to it are {{{target}}} with the label 'Reconstruction of', and the parameters {{{child1-10}}} with the label 'Lower-order reconstructions', while on the former template, the parameters {{{ancestor(1)-5}}} have the label 'Reconstructed ancestor(s), while on the latter template, those parameters, of which there are 15, have the label 'Early form(s)' instead. PK2 (talk; contributions) 08:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – attested languages and reconstructions are very different things, and conflating them is likely to produce confusing messes. It would be nonsensical to supply values for both {{{target}}} and any of the dozens of parameters unique to {{Infobox language}}. Although both infoboxes have {{{ancestorN}}} parameters, the semantics attached to them is quite different (as suggested by the different labels). Kanguole 12:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Kanguole. 3461x (talk) 21:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Kanguole. Protalina (talk) 16:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dutch Figure Skating Championships

Template:Dutch Figure Skating Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All individual articles were redirected to the parent article per this AFD, rendering this template unnecessary. Bgsu98 (Talk) 05:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why redirecting all these? They were red links and in other cases became red links after article removal. Redirecting is utterly superfluous. The Banner talk 21:59, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Afd consensus was to redirect. Articles were not notable and template is no longer needed.

That is not what I asked: why redirecting already red linked articles. The Banner talk 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redirects allow the championships to appear on certain figure skating templates. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have examples? The Banner talk 14:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox for Dutch champion Lindsay van Zundert, for example. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is an article, not a template. The Banner talk 14:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The template is in the infobox. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Red link articles can't be redirected. They were not red links before the Afd. Redirecting is not superfluous. Afd consensus was to redirect. You are disputing the Afd result, then you should take it to the Afd space than Tfd. But you will hardly change the outcome. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2014, red link redirected, 2015, red link redirected. Why? This does not serve any purpose. The Banner talk 15:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Very useless. Interstate264 (talk) 20:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Solo Leveling

Template:Solo Leveling (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No real topical navigation links to justify its existence. GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 03:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, without prejudice against recreation if/when there are more articles within this topic. Currently the only articles are Solo Leveling and List of Solo Leveling episodes. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]