Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 October 23
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was Delete. As a note this was filed in the wrong place and should have been at WP:MFD. Izno (talk) 01:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
"Wrapper" template no longer needed. This formerly existed as a wrap-around for User:AlexNewArtBot/LGBTSearchResult, so that it could be displayed on Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies inside a collapsible box instead of being directly transcluded wholesale -- but the structure of the WikiProject page has been significantly revised, so that the search-results page (which is still in use) is now accessed through a direct text link instead of using this wrapper template for transcludability, so an editor tried to "archive" it even though it's just a wrapper for a different page that remains in use, rather than content in its own right. So we no longer need to retain this wrapper at all anymore, if the thing it's wrapping is being accessed in a different way now. Bearcat (talk) 17:09, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was moved. Other improvements, such as making it available on mobile, can be made at the new location. Izno (talk) 01:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
This "message box" is only used only on page so it should be subst there, however, it also incorrectly uses {{Navbox}} so does not display on desktop. Replace the navbox with {{Ombox}} before substing. Gonnym (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see why you moved this back to template-space? This worked perfectly fine in Wikipedia-space; there's no policy there that things need to have multiple transclusions and keeping the overall page source more readable imo is a plus. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:18, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- It was a template for over a year and a half and moved last week, and since I sent it to XfD, it should be sent to where it it logically fits. While there is no policy, as an admin I'd expect you to know that for years now templates have been subst for having a single transclusion. A single transclusion template means that you make editing of a page harder and complicated for no gain, and no, keeping the page source readable while hiding the actual content, is not a plus but a minus. Gonnym (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm well aware that one-transclusion templates typically get substituted and deleted, hence why this isn't appropriate for the template namespace. That same logic doesn't really apply to the Wikipedia namespace, though, which is what I said. And no, in this case, substituting this would make editing the page moderately more annoying (same is even more true of the other venues with similar transclusions, which are explicitly meant to be newbie-friendly pages to edit and not mess up; this one isn't quite as clear and I could see a case for removing the banner altogether, at which point this would obviously be unnecessary). Elli (talk | contribs) 18:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- It was a template for over a year and a half and moved last week, and since I sent it to XfD, it should be sent to where it it logically fits. While there is no policy, as an admin I'd expect you to know that for years now templates have been subst for having a single transclusion. A single transclusion template means that you make editing of a page harder and complicated for no gain, and no, keeping the page source readable while hiding the actual content, is not a plus but a minus. Gonnym (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Related: Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 October 7#Template:AUTOPATRightPlace. This template may be more useful than that other template though. May take a closer look later. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:43, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep it's feasible it could be reused, perhaps at WP:PERM or somewhere so I'm not sold on the in should be subst'd argument. As far as how to improve it, take it to the talk page. — xaosflux Talk 18:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and move back to WPspace, the latter for consistency with Wikipedia:Rollback/right place notice and easier transclusion. The template de-clutters Wikipedia:Account creator, just as Wikipedia:Teahouse/Header de-clutters WP:TH. It also allows for editing specifically of the navbox, and discussion thereof on the talk page.
- I note that navboxes are also used at WP:PCR and WP:ROLLBACK. I'm not sure why this is preferred. Cremastra (u — c) 21:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cremastra. This is standard practice for project pages – see Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention/Header for another example. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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