Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 October 1

October 1

Template:Welcomeg/table

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:19, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Welcomeg/table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not used by Template:Welcomeg; seems to have been replaced by Template:Welcomec/table. Can be substituted on any user talk pages where it appears. If we don't want to delete, could redirect there to minimize the number of copies of these helpful links we have to maintain. -- Beland (talk) 23:23, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Delete Not needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:49, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Template:Climate of India by state or territory

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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 04:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Climate of India by state or territory (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A largely red-linked template with the majority of blue links being redirects. Used on only two articles. One of which regarding the climate of one of the states passes notability, the rest I have prodded for the lack of references and failing GNG. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

• keep, but remove any redlinks. Frietjes (talk) 14:28, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Still doesn't deal with the vast majority of redirects. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

And if the articles that do exist as their own space aren't enough to justify in keeping the navbox as it would fail the minimum articles needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

then remove the redirects? no reason to delete a template when simple editing will fix the problem. connecting 9 articles is enough for a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 14:47, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

The remaining articles that exist regarding climate in a region of India, I've nominated them for deletion over issues regarding GNG and the problematic sourcing. Given my rationale, the articles will end up being deleted and the navbox won't be needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 17:27, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Keep This nomination was based on failed speculation of the future, as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climate of Rajasthan is showing a clear lack of consensus to delete, meaning there will be enough articles to have a navbox. Agree the redirects should be pruned, though. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:07, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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Template:Shades of azure

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Shades of blue. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:12, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Shades of azure (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Shades of blue (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Shades of azure with Template:Shades of blue.
Too esoteric. Contents should be merged into other relevant color templates, such as Template:Shades of blue or Template:Shades of azure pbp 22:49, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

• Merge Azure is another term for blue, which is more likely the basic color term that would be associated with the contents of this template. PaleAqua (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

  Just checked the azure article and it looks like it needs to be improved as well, or just redirected to blue. PaleAqua (talk) 23:00, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

• Keep Unless someone is willing to change the references to it on about 20 pages, it's going to break those pages. Is whoever is proposing this merger willing to fix all those pages and be sure the change will not break them? Unless they are willing to promisse this, I think we should leave well enough alone. Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) (talk) 00:54, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

  It's not an essential template to those pages, the pages won't be broken if the template is deleted. What would either happen is there would be a red link, or, a link to Template:Shades of blue if Azure is redirected there. pbp 01:15, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

• Keep To suggest that Azure is a type of blue, would be to also suggest that violet is a type of blue, or orange is a type of red, even though these two colors are also very distinct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThunderBrine (talk • contribs)

  ThunderBrine is the template's creator

  Most people perceive no difference between azure and blue though. pbp 22:36, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:06, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Merge These clearly duplicate each other, as a lot of the colors in Template:Shades of azure contain the word "blue". Technical difficulty in implemenation, such as needing someone [..] willing to change the references to [the temlplate] on about 20 pages has never been a valid reason to retain a template at TfD * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:07, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
• Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
• Merge — Azure is generally a shade of blue, and in many contexts a mere synonym. There's no justification or proof that it in particular needs its own template. ― novov t c 02:03, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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Template:Shades of rose

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Shades of pink. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Shades of rose (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Shades of pink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Shades of rose with Template:Shades of pink.
Too esoteric. Contents should be merged into other relevant color templates, such as Template:Shades of pink pbp 22:45, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

• Merge to Shades of pink, similar reason as Shades of azure above. PaleAqua (talk) 01:25, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
• Alternative. Shades of pink should be merged into shades of rose, conversely. Pink is too arbitrary of a color classification. ThunderBrine (talk)

  Almost all color terms are arbitrary, and even the division between basic color terms differs by language and culture. Pink is more of a basic term in English. see figure 2a. PaleAqua (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:06, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
• Merge — As with Template:shades of azure, rose is just one of many variants of pink, with no justification that it needs to be separate in particular. Even if it was, it strikes me as more convenient for readers to browse as few colour subdivisions as possible. ― novov t c 02:07, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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Template:Shades of magenta

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 October 8. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:13, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Shades_of_magenta (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Shades_of_violet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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