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The result of the discussion was Delete. ~ Rob13Talk 06:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of rocket articles have this template. It pops up on top of an article for a few days/weeks around a launch saying something like "current launch in progress, things may change".

I find this template highly ridiculous and distracting on top of articles, and sometimes two of them come live at the same time, if two launches are close. Let's face it. Rockets are cool. The future of civilization depends on them, and so on. But there is nothing notable about a rocket launch to warrant all this fanfare. A rocket either goes up, or is delayed, or goes boom.

"Current event" templates are meant to be used sparingly, for very unique and unexpected events (e.g., a nuclear reactor exploded), not for routine and periodic events where nothing much happens. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:19, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Huntster: I hear you; I'm just saying that the space-specific format of {{Launching}} with appropriate parameters would be more useful than the standard {{Current}}. I'm willing to work on that if the consensus is to delete. — JFG talk 20:38, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@JFG: Okay? I don't understand the point of building an entirely new template when we're trying to get rid of this one. A discussion for another time, I know, but this seems counterintuitive. "Current" alerts the end users without getting into unnecessary nibbly bits, which was one of the main points of this deletion proposal. Huntster (t @ c) 20:42, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Huntster: We may be talking past each other. I do support the deletion and I'm only suggesting to create a spaceflight-specific template to alert people about developing launch incidents when they happen, i.e. roughly twice a year these days. That will be much lighter and much more relevant than making every launch a special event with flashing lights at its rocket, spacecraft and spaceport. Wouldn't you agree? — JFG talk 20:53, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@JFG: What I'm saying is that "{{current||launch incident|date=September 2016}}" gets the point across in a standardised format without the need for a new template. Huntster (t @ c) 21:08, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Understood, we'll agree to disagree on this. Let's see what happens to the template first. — JFG talk 21:26, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
As for the difficulty in keeping them updated - well let's say that at least I'll keep them useful for as long as I can do. I would suggest keeping all of them until, say, 6 months or more of inactivity for all templates. I guess I won't be around to care by then. ;)
Also I'm curious about what "misrepresentation of established policy" does this template do, and why it wasn't discussed in the past 7+ years of existence. Galactic Penguin SST (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(off-topic) You are getting me worried: it would be sad to see you go in 6 months… Hope this is not a sinister omen! — JFG talk 18:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Speedy Keep. Per new information showing this template is actually still used. Avicennasis @ 03:04, 20 Tevet 5777 / 03:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This template no longer seems to serve a purpose, as the tool it was connected to has long since ceased to function. Avicennasis @ 03:30, 17 Tevet 5777 / 03:30, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, then. From all appearances it seemed still abandoned. Nothing on the talk page and the documentation still linked to tool labs with a note about it being broken. If it's actually used (which it now seems it is) I will happily strike my nomination. I will wait for Iadmc to weigh in with any objections as well, before I speedy-keep this. Avicennasis @ 02:42, 20 Tevet 5777 / 02:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, no problem at all - I didn't tell anyone about the tool, nor did I link it from anywhere, so the nomination made perfect sense. I'm planning to import some historical data soon, which should make it a lot more useful. Thanks for the fast response! Enterprisey (talk!) 02:45, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:31, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. Primefac (talk) 00:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template. Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Relisted on 2017 January 23 Primefac (talk) 00:30, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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