Wikipedia:Portal peer review/Millennium/archive1
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This is my first foray into portals but I'd like to bring it to FPO status if possible. This is a portal for the short-lived television series Millennium, and as such has a relatively small scope. However, I'm confident that I'll be able to bring most, if not all, articles within the subject to GA status or better, so every article featured in the cycles will be of good quality. At present there are ~25 articles being rotated automatically through the selected article and selected DYK boxes, while open tasks towards the bottom point out where the remaining articles needing help are. As I'm working within the wikicup this year a lot of my contributions will be articles within this scope so both of the selected content boxes will feature continually updated content until I've run through them all; which should see ~80 articles in total. I've kept the image adornments within a theme, using the ouroboros symbol favoured by the series' Millennium Group characters, although I'm open to expanding upon this if the theme seems too restrictive or repetitive. I've not included a full "selected picture" section as there aren't many free images directly related to the series, and those that are tend to be already used within the "selected article" blurbs. I'm also open to cutting down the number of related portals, I just jammed in as many as I felt were roughly connected. Thanks in advance for any help that can be offered here. GRAPPLE X 03:29, 9 July 2012 (UTC) GRAPPLE X 03:29, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Comments
- A selected biography section would be useful.
- I was planning to keep the selections to articles which have reached GA-class or better, which rules out a lot of the stub-class biographies associated with the series; Chris Carter (screenwriter), Glen Morgan, James Wong (producer), Chip Johannessen, Megan Gallagher, Klea Scott, etc. Some of the bios—Lance Henriksen and Terry O'Quinn mostly—are of better quality though. I'd definitely work such a selection in once I've managed to get sufficient work done on it but at the minute I'm not really convinced. Though it would be a good idea for me to get to work on those articles much sooner to get it going then. GRAPPLE X 10:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- That would take a lot of work, yes. Even five would be nice though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I was planning to keep the selections to articles which have reached GA-class or better, which rules out a lot of the stub-class biographies associated with the series; Chris Carter (screenwriter), Glen Morgan, James Wong (producer), Chip Johannessen, Megan Gallagher, Klea Scott, etc. Some of the bios—Lance Henriksen and Terry O'Quinn mostly—are of better quality though. I'd definitely work such a selection in once I've managed to get sufficient work done on it but at the minute I'm not really convinced. Though it would be a good idea for me to get to work on those articles much sooner to get it going then. GRAPPLE X 10:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Wikilink episode titles in the selected articles box
- A selected biography section would be useful.
- Can't think of anything major right now, but I'm worried that you'd have trouble at FPOC because of the small subject matter. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:39, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's a fair point; I haven't had an exhaustive look but it seems that P:BO is the featured portal with the smallest scope—the accompanying wikiproject covers approximately 330 article-space pages. Episodes, season, characters, crew, and any other miscellany that works its way in there all combined this would probably reach half of that at maximum. If the scope is deemed too small then there's nothing I can really do about that but I still plan on being as exhaustive as I can to help that along. GRAPPLE X 10:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. Hard to base a portal around a small subject. :-( — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps maybe an The X-Files portal would be useful, since it is not created yet. JJ98 (Talk / Contribs) 20:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- Indeed. Hard to base a portal around a small subject. :-( — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- That's a fair point; I haven't had an exhaustive look but it seems that P:BO is the featured portal with the smallest scope—the accompanying wikiproject covers approximately 330 article-space pages. Episodes, season, characters, crew, and any other miscellany that works its way in there all combined this would probably reach half of that at maximum. If the scope is deemed too small then there's nothing I can really do about that but I still plan on being as exhaustive as I can to help that along. GRAPPLE X 10:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- Suggestions and recommendations
- Randomize image display and reformat the Intro section, see model at Portal:Norway.
- Aside from the images for the selected article, the image display is randomised; the DYK section is tied to a random ouroboros or similar symbol. I may try my hand at creating a few more as they're generally basic symbols (which is desirable, as the series dwells heavily on symbolism). GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reformat Things you can do section to make it look a bit nicer, see model at Portal:Internet.
- I've widened it, placed it on a row by itself. Its former space is occupied by a quote now. GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reformat Highlighted content display, see model at Portal:Film.
- Not really sure what you mean here, as the film portal has a much larger variety of articles (biographies, lists, etc, which this one doesn't really have). GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reformat Topics section, expand it a lot more, and create original display, see model at Portal:Television.
- Not sure what this is referring to; do you mean the list of "Highlighted content" or something else? GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Add a Selected quote section, like Portal:Supreme Court of the United States.
- Good idea. I've added a section with random quotes; each one has been used in an episode of the series as an opening legend. GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Add a Selected picture section, see model at Portal:Russia.
- This is going to be difficult as there aren't many free images which work devoid of context for this one; a few of some of the cast and crew are all we have (a few of Lance Henriksen and Chris Carter). Given that they're all older white men—and therefore don't show much variety—I don't know if it's going to work as well as would be hoped. GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Add an In this month section, see model at Portal:Theatre.
- I could be amenable to this but aside from cast and crew birthdays, episode air dates and perhaps "in universe" dates, I don't know what would actually be useful to add. GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Add an Associated Wikimedia section, see model at Portal:Comedy.
- Aside from Wikiquote there's not really anything to add (nothing at wikisource, not enough images to justify a useful commons cat, etc)
Hope that's helpful, — Cirt (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- To be honest, I think the field here is too narrow for a lot of these suggestions, as the portals you've cited are for huge fields like film, theatre or sovereign nations, rather than this small field. I've been able to act on some of them though, and I think it's looking better as a result, so thanks helping me expand out another section here. GRAPPLE X 00:28, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, no worries, I mean I respectfully disagree on a few of the responses, there might be some areas to pursue in the future (for example if there's no page yet on a sister project ... create one!) but after all, the above are just suggestions, so no problems either way. :) — Cirt (talk) 01:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- All I could think that could be created would be a commons category, unless there's other sister projects I'm overlooking (wikisource is out as scripts are the only real things to be presented there and they're not free; news is next to non-existent for wikinews, etc). If I've overlooked something you think would be viable I'm happy to work on it. GRAPPLE X 01:15, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah that sounds like a good idea :) — Cirt (talk) 03:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Took me a while but I created a commons category ( Media related to Millennium (TV series) at Wikimedia Commons). It currently contains other categories more than anything as I wasn't sure if placing files in the category would be okay if I was already using it to place the other categories those files are in. That sentence confused me. GRAPPLE X 21:07, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah that sounds like a good idea :) — Cirt (talk) 03:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- All I could think that could be created would be a commons category, unless there's other sister projects I'm overlooking (wikisource is out as scripts are the only real things to be presented there and they're not free; news is next to non-existent for wikinews, etc). If I've overlooked something you think would be viable I'm happy to work on it. GRAPPLE X 01:15, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, no worries, I mean I respectfully disagree on a few of the responses, there might be some areas to pursue in the future (for example if there's no page yet on a sister project ... create one!) but after all, the above are just suggestions, so no problems either way. :) — Cirt (talk) 01:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)