Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/Archive/2011/January

January 1

linking or referencing any information on wikinvest

Because it's a wiki I don't think there's a strong case for it as a reference but I do think some of the articles and in particular specific sections (that feature graphs, tables) would be appropriate as an external link at the bottom of an article, like interwiki links in the see also section of wikipedia articles (like this). like wikipedia wikinvest is a leader in delivering information (for wikinvest that's company information in terms of traffic), demands that everything be referenced, ensures that copyright laws aren't violated and has top contributors who take care of administration related tasks. So I guess the question boils down to, is any part of wikinvest allowed to be used as a hyperlink, external link, see also, or reference? I think it has a lot more to offer than commercial sites that are allowed like hoovers. thanks Grmike (talk) 04:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)grmike

This has come up in a specific case here, where an editor asserts that Wikinvest is "clearly not a reliable source" but without any discussion of the question. It is not clear to me where the information on Wikinvest comes from: if there is some kind of editorial control then it may be a reliable source; but if it is open to anybody to contribute to, then it is by definition not a reliable source. --ColinFine (talk) 11:02, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Languages of Guyana

Under the subheading "Recognised Regional Languages" the inclusion of Portuguese, Hindi, and Spanish is invalid. You cannot possibly mean that because there are a few people living in a country who can understand words spoken in a certain language that the language is "a recongised regional language". Otherwise you should include Chinese, French, French Creole, Sranan Tongo (the creole lingua franca of Surinam), etc.

I believe you intend under this classification that there should be at least one signficant cultural or ethnic group in the population whose members use the language for their daily interaction, including for inter-generational communication. For example, Javanese and Hindustani are valid inclusions for Suriname.

Thus, in Guyana, the inclusion of the Amerindian languages (Patamona, Wapishiana, etc.) is valid. Portuguese and Hindi are not valid. Portuguese as a language of daily communication died over a half century ago with the integration of the influx of Portuguese immigrants from the island of Madeira. There is a new wave of Portuguese speaking people from Brazil whose significant influx began about 10 years ago. It cannot be said this group forms a block using the language for intergenerational communication with any chance that this will be the only way of communicating with expanding numbers of this group born in Guyana. The language is used as of necessity among the new immigrants. Their children attend English Speaking schools. The same can be said of Chinese.

While there are clear contributions of Hindi to the creole of Guyana there is nowhere Hindi exists as an intergenerational language or the language of daily interaction except in the homes of new immigrants from India who are very few.190.80.116.182 (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

This is a content issue and should be discussed on the article's talk page. Just a quick question, what do reliable sources say about Portugese and Hindi?  – ukexpat (talk) 19:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Two questions

I am a new contributer and I have a couple of questions about my first article. 1. Often a wikipedia article has a box on the right hand side of the article which makes quick referencing of information easy. How do I insert that box into my article ?---- 2. I would like my article to be a sub-article in a series, how can I do that ?---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by James J Ellis (talk • contribs) 21:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

The former is an infobox; this is produced by a series of templates depending on the subject of the article, and the easiest way of using it is to go to the documentation for the template and copy and paste the skeleton of the template to the top of the page and fill out whatever information is available. See {{infobox person}} or {{infobox company}} for example. If your article is directly related to a series of existing articles, there are also a number of templates which are generally collapsed at the bottom of relevant articles, which provide a brief list or categorisation of various articles within a field; an example of this is {{US War on Terror}}. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 10:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2

How to insert or load an authentic image for a reference

Please let me know how to insert an image from my computer or my document which suits an article or reference to some. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.121.250 (talk) 13:33, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:39, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Info box problem

Sorry, I do not understand a problem I am having. On the Wikipedia page for WUJS, I am trying to enter the name of the new Chairman, Oliver Worth, in the infobox but it does not appear when I save. Why is this? 192.118.11.120 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox company does not have a field called "chairman". Instead, you may use the "key_people" field to list the chairman. I also suggest you look at and use Template:Infobox non-profit which seems more appropriate to the organization World Union of Jewish Students. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:04, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

January 3

How do we temporarily lock articles?

There are some articles that are being systematically vandalised by certain individuals requiring me to repeatedly go in an undo the same set of changes.

How can we temporarily lock an article for edits until the issue is resolved on the talk page?

--Ashlonerider (talk) 11:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

• You can request page protection by following the instructions at WP:RFPP, if there is an edit dispute which is not being discussed, or persistent vandalism from multiple parties. If the latter, make sure that the edits are actually vandalism, though. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 11:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Glancing through the history of Pradip Baijal it is clear that the issue is not one of WP:vandalism, but one of WP:content dispute. (I believe you are arguing that other editors are violating WP:NPOV, but I take no position on who is right). You should take the discussion to the talk page, and familiarise yourself with WP:edit war. If necessary, you should follow the procedures in WP:conflict resolution. --ColinFine (talk) 13:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

References

I have included several citations within the reference tags. However, my draft doesn't render the citations. What must I do to get them to show up and to show due diligence to the facts? If I press edit, the citations are still there. Thank you in advance for your assistance.

23:54, 3 January 2011 (UTC)~— Preceding unsigned comment added by deadlinedd (talk • contribs)

You need to format them correctly, see WP:CITE. – ukexpat (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

January 4

Adding logo of a company to their Wikipedia Page

I work for a company that just changed their name and has a new logo. I have downloaded it to my computer and would like to include it within the page that describes the company. I am a newbie here so I wanted to ask what the right thing to do it so I don't get in trouble. The company I work for does not care about their info being on Wikipedia but I thought that the new logo would be a good idea. I have contributed as much information as possible about my employer to make the page about them as accurate as possible.

74.76.116.160 (talk) 01:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)SaratogaCasinoAndRacewayEmployee

Before you make any more edits to the article, please read and inwardly digest WP:COI and WP:SPAM - at the moment the article is a bit of a spamfest. With respect to use of logos, please read WP:LOGO. – ukexpat (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I am not experienced in writing so I apologize for it looking the way it does. I wish to make it better but am not educated enough to do it alone. I would welcome some assistance. I never intended to make is not work with WP standards. I supplied information that hte company has given me first hand plus info from their website.

74.76.116.160 (talk) 02:22, 4 January 2011 (UTC)SaratogaCasinoAndRacewayEmployee

And that is exactly why you should not be editing the article - material that you have received from the company is very unlikely to maintain the neutral point of view required for an encyclopedic article.  – ukexpat (talk) 02:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Chauncy Nye

Chaucey Nye's wife was Amarantha Burt, daughter of Martin Burt. Nye died on Janary 31, 1904 at his home near Prospect, Oregon. He came west in 1850 sstopping at Yreka, California for a short time. However, in the spring of 1851 he opened the first bakery in Salem, Oregon, leaving there in the spring of 1852 when he came to Jacksonville, Territory of Oregon where he engaged in mining. In the fall of 1852 he was elected alcalde. Duringhe winter of 1853-54 he served in the Oregon Legislature after being duly elected. In the fall of 1855 he enlisted in Compnay D, Second Oregon Volunteer Infantry and served through the Rogue River Indian War uj der Captain Bruce Rice and Captain John S. Miller. He was elected orderly sergeant. After peace was declared, he settled on a donation land claim in Sam's Valley on the north side of the Rogue River.

He married Amarantha Burt in 1865 in the John Beeson house in Talent, Oregon. Due to the location of his donation land claim and an ensuing malaria scare, he and his wife removed from the floor of the Rogue River Valley upstream to a ranch near Flounce Rock. The couple had six children only three of whom surived to reach adulthood: Ettie A.Nye(Mrs. Joe (Mrs. A. J. Florey), Nelson M. Nye, and Elsie Amarantha Nye (Mrs.Joe Phipps)

Besides being one member of the party of pioneers who discovered Crater Lake for the pioneers-- naming it Lake Majestic, on this same trip the party climbed a tall peak, and named it Union Peak, a name that same peak bears today, indicating the party's and Chauncy Nye's deep devotion to the Union during the Civil War. Footnote: Much of this material above was taken from an obituary kept by members of the family. My great grandmother was Amarantha Burt's sister Ellen Burt Bailey. Some other members of the family indicate that Chauncy Nye was born near Rochester, New York in 1826 not in Michigan. Incidentally, Amarantha Burt was born oon 5 May 1826 in Geene Co., Illinois, to Martin Burt and Abigail O'Flyng Burt. Robert L. Casebeer Talent, Oregon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.206.161.150 (talk) 10:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in improving the Chauncy Nye article. Sadly, one of the core principles of Wikipedia is that information in articles must already have been published in reliable sources. Information that has been handed down within a family, but never published, should not be added to an article. If the obituary you refer to was ever published, the information in it could be used - do you have the title and publication date of the paper/magazine/book in which it appeared? (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy) -- John of Reading (talk) 11:01, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Getting Your Article Posted

I have created a sub page but when I search it does not come up as an option. Is my page live? Or does it reside strictly behind the live access to Wikipedia conten?

Thanks for your help.

In-Stat (talk) 16:45, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

You have written on your user page, which is not part of the encyclopedia. I'm afraid that your material is not suitable for Wikipedia, because Wikipedia is not a means of advertising or promotion. Please read the FAQ page for organisations.

More bad news: because your user name matches the company or product you are promoting, it contravenes the Wikipedia user name policy and is likely to be blocked. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

January 5

how do you put pics in?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.166.62 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 5 January 2011

See WP:Images - David Biddulph (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

And Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. -- œ^™ 18:11, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

January 6

Harry Potter book title

reading about voldemort and noticed a ref. to the "philosopher's stone" as part of one of (the first) titles-- it is "the sorcerer's stone" not "philosopher's stone."-- unless this title/book exists under another title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.242.207.147 (talk) 06:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

As is explained in the second paragraph of the article, the book was first published in the UK as "the philosopher's stone" and re-published in the US a year later as "the sorcerer's stone". -- John of Reading (talk) 08:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

sources for new material added to Wikipedia

Hello I am SarahPats and I am brand new to this.

I work for an e-learning company and I would like to contribute to existing articles on this subject. My question is regarding the references we may use to cite new material. There are a few sites that I know are reliable that are quite new (like maybe only a few months old). Given that e-learning is quite new itself, I was wondering what Wikipedia's parameters are like when analyzing a site's reliability.

Any information on this subject would be appreciated.

Thanks, SarahPats — Preceding unsigned comment added by SarahPats (talk • contribs) 09:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I am curious about what aspect of e-learning is necessarily new, as systems like PLATO have been around since the early 1960's and there have been groups like CALICO who have been publishing peer-reviewed scholarly journals for decades? Another group to look at is the MIT Media Lab, who clearly is in the forefront of electronic-based education. Part my question then would be to define "e-learning" in some fashion that would distinguish it from other forms of electronic-based education media.

In short, I think you are selling the field short to suggest that there isn't scholarly research which has been done in the area, including looking up more generally Instructional technology as an academic discipline. I should drop a hint here that Steve Jobs sold one of his new-fangled Apple II computers at an instructional technology conference and was largely responsible for giving Apple Computer their initial sales base past the initial hundred or so ubergeeks that purchased the first computers. It isn't as new as you would think. Dead-tree publications more than a decade old and found in public libraries might be a good place to start as it is that old of a concept.

More generally, I would suggest that you look at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources for more broad guidelines in terms of what sources you should be looking at. Consider peer-reviewed publications to be excellent sources of information as well as magazines with an editorial staff that might be a source for reviews. I know of several publications which focus on this particular sub-field rather strongly and have been around for some time (a decade or more). Google is your friend here, but I can dig up a few links if you are having trouble finding those magazines. Contacting a local teacher college (especially a land-grant university) would be another way to find some publications of this nature. You might even want to contact a technology officer at your local school district for some ideas if you want to find some sources of information for this field in particular. --Robert Horning (talk) 09:38, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Robert:

Thanks for the speedy reply, I was expecting to have to wait a little longer to get this answered. You are completely right in stating that e-learning is not a new concept, I should have been more specific in what I meant. I am more interested in open education and mobile learning. These are somewhat new aspects of e-learning given that the technology for them is pretty recent, In terms of open education I am referring to online projects like the P2PU or the Open University in the UK. These are projects that aim to provide material licensed un the Creative Commons for free or provide courses for students online with volunteers as teachers or guidance. Sites that provide these ebooks for free (licensed under Creative Commons) are becoming more widespread but there are some that i have com across that are very good but are very recent. This is what I am worried about, that although these are good sources of information for people interested in this subject, wikipedia may consider these sites too new to be considered reliable. In terms of mobile learning I am referring to learning applications that have been created for the iphone, the ipad and android devices. These apps are sometimes based on copyrighted material but sometimes they are based on material licensed under the Creative Commons. It is these resources that i would like to include as external links for people's reference after reading an article on, for example, investment or accounting. Let me know what you think of this.

Again, I am sorry that I wasnt more clear initially and thank you for the quick reply.

SarahPats (talk) 09:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)SarahPats

No problem. I still think a survey of some of these Instructional Technology websites might be some of the best sources for information that you are seeking in terms of reliable sources as I recall at least a couple of discussions about this issue in particular. The Instructional Technology Forum at the University of Georgia would be one place I'd suggest you query in terms of finding people who are at the bleeding edge of this field and in particular with regards to finding some reliable sources of information including published peer-reviewed papers on this particular topic. I'm sure that at least a couple of the people on that forum have worked with mobile devices as they really are at the forefront of educational technology.

As long as all you are doing is citing material, it doesn't matter what the licensing terms are involved, it is just a reference to that material. The only issue that the licensing of the material matters is if you are including a longer quote in the article, and even then good style guides would urge you to refrain from that much material. Reliable sources are in the eye of the beholder, although you might be surprised what is out there too if you really try to start looking.

I'd also suggest that you look at the Wikimedia sister projects Wikibooks and Wikiversity for some of what you may be trying to do here. Both are a little more forgiving than Wikipedia in terms of creating some initial content and writing something that may not necessarily be an encyclopedia article. I know of several Wikibooks that are somewhat close to what it is that you seem to want to write about, but it is a different format than Wikipedia. Wikiversity in particular is interested in partnering with other groups that want to share information based upon "open source" information and may provide a much more fertile area to work with than Wikipedia. Certainly writing encyclopedia articles can be useful in itself, but you might find some friendly faces on Wikiversity based upon what it is that you seem to be describing here. --Robert Horning (talk) 10:19, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Donating copyrighted material to Wikipedia for new articles

Hello I am new to this and I had a few questions about donating material to wikipedia to make a new article.

I work for an e-learning company and we focus on business and finance education. We have some copyrighted ebooks available for free online but we hold the rights to them. I wasnt to start a new article based on these books. The main topic is investing and it is more specifically about real estate investment. Any information on how to go about doing tis without wikipedia blocking or deleting my new page would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, SarahPats (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2011 (UTC)SarahPats

Hi SarahPats - thanks for your question. A few things to take into consideration:

• If the material remains copyrighted, it won't be possible for it to be used in Wikipedia even with accreditation of the source. (To clarify: you can't license copyright material for use only on Wikipedia.) This is because all material in Wikipedia is licensed under the Creative Commons CC-BY-SA standard license, which (among other things) allows it to be altered and reproduced by anyone, including for profit. These conditions are incompatible with standard copyright licensing. Therefore, to donate the material to Wikipedia, it must be released under a license compatible with CC-BY-SA. You can do this by placing that license on the original e-books, or by sending an email to "permissions" granting the right for the material to be reproduced under this license. All details of either procedure are given at this page on donating material.
• As a corollary, you should note that even if you originate material, anyone else is free to edit it at will - you wouldn't retain ownership of the material once it is placed in Wikipedia.
• What kind of articles were you proposing to create? If the books are anything like how-to guides or instructional manuals, the material may not be appropriate for Wikipedia in any case. Our content must all be neutral, informational, encyclopedic material - see this page on what Wikipedia is not (including an instruction manual. All our content must meet the notability guideline - i.e. have been the subject of substantial coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources.
• Since you represent the publisher of the original material it is possible that you have a conflict of interest. We strongly discourage users from editing articles about subjects with which they have a close connection. If this would apply in your case, please read our guide to editing where you have a conflict of interest.
• As a general point, you may find it useful to read our guide to creating your first article. This offers general information about contributing to Wikipedia and how to structure and support new material.

Does this answer your questions? Let us know if you have any more. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:44, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Gonzonoir:

Thanks for the reply. You have answered quite a bit of my question. I just need to clarify something regarding your first point. The company that I work for has the rights to the online publication of these books (they are not manuals or how-to books, they are course books for MBA courses written originally by a professor who gave us rights to online publishing)and we would like to make some of these books available under the Creative Commons. We have consulted with the author of the content and he agrees with us that it would be alright to have this freely available for people. In terms of the article that would be written it would be based on the book and divided into the chapters that the original author has outlined. The material would be the same as the textbook but there should be no conflict of copyright if we license it under the Creative Commons. I guess my question for this was specifically how to go about doing this through Wikipedia. I will look further into the resources that you have listed as I think that the information should be there.

Thank you for the reply, I look forward to any comments you might have on this.

SarahPats (talk) 10:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)SarahPatsHello Gonzonoir:

Thanks for the reply. You have answered quite a bit of my question. I just need to clarify something regarding your first point. The company that I work for has the rights to the online publication of these books (they are not manuals or how-to books, they are course books for MBA courses written originally by a professor who gave us rights to online publishing)and we would like to make some of these books available under the Creative Commons. We have consulted with the author of the content and he agrees with us that it would be alright to have this freely available for people. In terms of the article that would be written it would be based on the book and divided into the chapters that the original author has outlined. The material would be the same as the textbook but there should be no conflict of copyright if we license it under the Creative Commons. I guess my question for this was specifically how to go about doing this through Wikipedia. I will look further into the resources that you have listed as I think that the information should be there.

Thank you for the reply, I look forward to any comments you might have on this.

SarahPats (talk) 10:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)SarahPats

If you are trying to donate some course books that are being made available under terms of the CC-by-SA license, I would suggest that you contact Wikibooks with their Reading Room section for some specifics on how to get the books donated. There have been several books which have been donated to Wikibooks over the years, with the understanding that those books can be poked at, modified, and changed over time. There are some people on Wikibooks who would be more than willing to help with a project like this. Even though it may not seem like it, there is quite a bit of activity on Wikibooks and people do pay attention to changes on this particular page I referenced above. A textbook would be inappropriate for Wikipedia but would be more than welcomed on Wikibooks. --Robert Horning (talk) 10:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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Short answer: Don't use self-published sources, especially something you wrote yourself. See also WP:SELFPUB and WP:COI.

Slightly longer answer: If you really want to write an article about these topics, do a good survey of the sources that are available regarding that topic. Article stubs are fine, but show that you are willing to consider more than just one source for the topic. If there are some e-books or something that you wrote yourself, use those sources for something which is factual and verifiable. Try to find other other viewpoints as well and also try to make sure that there isn't already an article on the topic. With over 3 million articles now on the English Wikipedia, it seems unlikely that at least something doesn't already exist at least somewhat close to the topic you are interested in writing about.

For some additional help, you may want to contact one of the members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Business group, which focuses on business-related articles and is as close to an "expert group" on that topic as exists on Wikipedia. Posting on the talk page of that Wikiproject could give you a few pointers for help on both creating an article on that topic and give you some feedback in terms of getting something written that won't get deleted right away. My advise is to start there, and look at some of the other business-related articles for some comparisons to what you might want to write. --Robert Horning (talk) 10:00, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

James Joyce, Finnegans Wake

'The Sound of Finnegans Wake' by Dr Peter Myers is an in-depth exploration of all aspects of music and sound in Joyce's book.ISBN-10: 033355339X —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.75.238.105 (talk) 13:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you are suggesting that a reference be added to the article Finnegans Wake. If you do not feel able to do so yourself, the best place to suggest this is on the article's talk page. (If you are thinking of editing the article yourself, a reference as specific as that should probably go in only if there is material in the article which could reasonably cite it, not as a general "Further reading"). --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Gene Sperling

On his wikipedia page there is no mention that Gene Sperling worked for Mario Cuomo in the 1990s before he worked for Bill Clinton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.55.213 (talk) 17:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source for that, please be bold and add the information to the article (with a proper citation to the source). If you do not feel confident to do that, or you haven't a reliable source, I suggest you start a discussion on the matter on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 19:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

January 7

Macor Composition error

I searched the material Macor. Under the Composition portion of the page it says that Macor is made up of 16% Aluminum (Al2O3), but Al2O3 is Aluminum Oxide (aka Alumina). I don't know if Macor is made up of Aluminum or Aluminum Oxide, but there is an error on this page. Thanks, 204.28.3.51 (talk) 16:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

It is aluminum oxide, so I fixed the article. Thanks for your help!--Thekmc (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

January 8

Long lists

Is it appropriate to have long lists in an article? On the iTunes Remote article, it has huge lists of new features in each version. I'm wondering if that is more detail than is needed. Thank you. --69.242.155.122 (talk) 18:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Provided the same information isn't better presented in prose, embedded lists are appropriate, and there isn't really a limit to their length, just as long as it doesn't constitute undue weight and aren't overly promotional. However if you feel that a certain listing is a bit excessive there are maintenance templates that you can use to tag the article, such as {{Over detailed}}, {{Example farm}}, and {{Cleanup-laundry}}. -- œ^™ 20:50, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

January 9

Own website

Can I write an article about my own website?Jayandess (talk) 05:45, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

See WP:COI and WP:SELFPUB for specific policies, but the general answer is no. If your website is "popular" and referenced independently in other publications and reliable sources (aka something like Google or Wikipedia do qualify for articles with this guideline) then yes an article can be started about some website. Most likely some website that doesn't already have an article on Wikipedia fails notability. --Robert Horning (talk) 06:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Further to that reply, you might want to also read WP:WEB which explains the notability requirements of websites. In general, if your site met those guidelines, then as Robert said, someone other than yourself would probably have created an article. If you told us the name of your website - the URL isn't needed, if it's notable then people would have heard of it and or would be able to find it using a simple Google search - we could probably give better advice. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 07:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

January 10

Updating a picture in an article??

optional caption text

Boy, this should be simple...but I have spent perhaps 4 hours trying to figure out how to simply replace a picture in an article with a better picture. I'm about to give up--where is the simple "How To" link to do this?

I believe I successfully uploaded a picture to the Wikipedia Commons, but where is it? And how do I link it into the article?

Schmieder (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The file shows up in your Commons Contributions and the filename is File:Albert Ghiorso ca 1970.jpg. To add it to an article as a thumbnail, use this code: [[File:Albert Ghiorso ca 1970.jpg|thumb|optional caption text]], which will render as -->>

For future reference, image help can be found at WP:IMAGES. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 03:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

how to footnote a thumnail file

I uploaded files and transfered them into my page as thumnail files. How do I reference these files into the report?? Thanks, Mike Vso737 (talk) 07:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed a couple of errors that were making the top of the page look very strange. Please read this help page for a quick guide to making the footnotes work. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The Steps to Publish a Biography

I would like to publish Biography and need a clear step-by-step of what to do.

174.49.84.228 (talk) 15:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation. TNXMan 15:24, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The Biography of Robert Palmer

Robert Palmer's girlfriend at the time of his death was forty-six year old Geraldine Edwards, the woman Almost Famous was written about. She had met Robert Palmer in 1976, and had been dating him since his 1999 divorce from his second wife, Susan Palmer. Robert Palmer and Geraldine Edwards were planning on moving to Los Angeles prior to his death.

The reporting of Mary Ambrose as Robert Palmer's girlfriend at the time of his death was a misreport by Robert Palmer's manager, Mick Carter. Mick Carter was later legally prohibited from announcing Mary Ambrose as Robert Palmer's girlfriend by being served with a Cease and Desist Order which was propounded on behalf of the Palmer family. Mary Ambrose was also served with a Cease and Desist Order legally prohibiting her from giving interviews stating that she was Robert Palmer's girlfriend and from writing a book about herself and Robert Palmer. As it turned out, Mary Ambrose was Robert Palmer's live-in Housekeeper and Personal Assistant that he hired in 2000. The two dated on a casual basis, but Mary Ambrose was not regarded as Robert Palmer's girlfriend. Robert Palmer had known Mary Ambrose socially since 1995. Mary Ambrose was twenty-six years old at the time of Robert Palmer's death. Mary was never a waitress, and did not meet Robert in the early nineties. She only dated him on a very casual basis from 2000 forward. Mary Ambrose and Robert Palmer were not exclusive. Mary Ambrose was considered single and dated often.

Mary Ambrose filed a law suit (Mary Ambrose v. The Estate of Robert Palmer) in early 2004 on the grounds of Will Tampering with the Paris, France Probate Court. Ambrose alleged that she could produce Witnesses to attest to her claim. When the Court ordered her to produce the Witnesses, she was unable to do do. Her named Witnesses would not step forward. Mary Ambrose v. The Estate of Robert Palmer was dismissed by the Court in mid-2004 as Groundless and Without Merit. Mary Ambrose Appealed the Court's decision. The Appeal was dismissed. In point of fact Robert Palmer had not written his Will in favor of Mary Ambrose. He had written it in favor of his five children. His Will was last altered in July of 2003 at which time he added a codicil to his Last Will and Testament. The final disbursement of the Will was completed in late 2004. Robert Palmer's five children prevailed and inherited the majority of his Estate, as were Robert Palmer's last wishes. James Palmer was the Executor of the Estate of Robert Palmer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.16.5 (talk) 21:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Robert Palmer (singer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

If you have reliable sources for this material, such as news reports, then feel free to include some of this information in the article. Remember to cite the sources, otherwise the material will probably be removed. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:33, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

January 11

how to insert a picture

how to insert a new picture ?tikki (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

If you want to upload a new picture to Wikipedia, please see the guide to uploading images. If you would like to add an image that's already on Wikipedia to an article, please see the image tutorial. --Danger (talk) 16:44, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Post a picture

How do you post a picture —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.14.139.56 (talk) 20:46, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• If you want to add an existing image to an article, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps. TNXMan 20:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

About Uploading photograph

I have made a page about Jogesh Datta, who is considered as father of mimein India. I want to upload his photograph. Pls helpPrem.gkp.mnnit (talk) 23:35, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Please see the replies to the previous two questions. (You have called the page Jogesh Dutta, not what you wrote above. It is a good start, but needs some work: much of it is written like a magazine article, not an encyclopaedia; and it needs more in-line citation). --ColinFine (talk) 08:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

January 12

how do i add a picture to a page?

how do i add a picture to a page? 114.126.2.116 (talk) 06:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

See the replies to the previous three questions. --ColinFine (talk) 08:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Newbie

Is this the place to ask the dumb questions of a beginner?Awesome salt (talk) 06:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, very few questions which are asked here are 'dumb'. The policies, guidelines and markup used on Wikipedia can be quite hard to follow for newcomers, and so asking questions here is not so dumb. The only thing that I wish newbies would sometimes do before asking a question here would be to read the questions already asked on the page - or search the page's archives using the box at the head of the page - to make sure their question hasn't already been asked and answered! If you ask something which was asked and answered a few days ago, then that isn't dumbness but laziness! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 08:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

My husband works for a company that built both the Trans American Building, and the Getty Center.

So I tried to make an edit, to add the builder’s name to those articles, and I did it wrong, (no references..)

And then when I tried to follow the instructions for listing a reference still did it wrong again. I typed after the companies’ name:

<ref> http://www.hdcco.com/Projects/ByType.aspx?ptid=5&ptind=5 <ref/>

But maybe that didn’t work because it is a link to the companies’ page where they talk about that particular building, when I should have cited a news article.

Since then, I’ve been reading trying to learn the proper way to do this.

Along the way, I have read about editors having a neutral point of view.

Sounds very zen, something one always strives for, yet never achieves.

These are standards I can appreciate, and truly admire in theory.

Yet, it seems to me if someone spends the time to edit something, they have some enthusiasm for the topic, and there you have the basis for bias to creep in.

It would be fun for my grandkids to see the name of their father’s Company listed as the builder of the buildings that they built.

I don’t have any newspaper references right now, I’ll ask my husband to look around at work for something that might meet the requirements of a newspaper reference. In the mean time, can you please delete my errors in both those articles for me?

Honestly, this is a complicated wiki world that you work in, and I’m not sure I understood half of what I read. I didn’t know that I was suppose to hit the edit button to read a reply to my question.

I will try again to find the correct method to make an edit when I have the appropriate references.

Thank you for the great work you do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesome salt (talk • contribs) 09:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

You had it so nearly right; I have fixed the reference syntax for you - click on that link to see what I did. I think that this help section is the simplest description of the reference syntax. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for your kindness! I expected you to just delete it for me. Perhaps I should change the reference to a newspaper article when I get the info from my husband, so it is more neutral?

His company just had their 100 year anniversary and they did a nice write up on it, I loved reading the articles an seeing the pictures. I was surprised when I didn’t see them mentioned on wikipedia.

I asked my husband to tell marketing to do something about it, but no one had gotten around to it. Then I saw one of the founders of wikipedia on the Daily Show... and it made me think I could do it.

Now that I have read the neutral requirements, and the unintended consequences clause, and it scared me enough to back off.

But how cool that you helped me with those edits!

You’ve made me want to try to learn a little more. But I have no interest in being the meddling wife who does the wrong thing for the right reasons. So maybe I can find a more neutral topic to play with.

My father-in-law just turned 90 yrs old last week, he was on the York Town, at the battle of the Midway in WWII. He is still very active, and travels to europe every year, and has wonderful stories to tell about WWII.

He used to be an english teacher, so it might be fun for us both to look at the Wiki pages on this topic, and see if he has anything to add.

But again I am concerned about the neutral requirements, and the correct referencing requirements.

Some of these old folks may have a great deal to offer, but their generation is dying off, and I’m not sure how I would reference something that he witnessed, if it wasn’t in the newspaper.

This Wiki world seems both friendly and inviting, while very complicated, and I’m not sure if I’m comfortable with my abilities to navigate the signs of ruff and tumble that I see sometimes between editors.

So my question is, do they play nice in the WWII section?

(Kind of an ironic question...)

Thanks again for your help.Awesome salt (talk) 19:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Orange Mike's message on your talk page is correct; you shouldn't be setting out to add the name of your husband's company to Wikipedia articles. You might like the Wikipedia:Community portal as an introduction to the sorts of things people do at Wikipedia. Scroll down one page and start reading at the "Help out" section. I'm not good at "ruff and tumble" either, so mostly I fix typos. I'm sure there will be something there that appeals to you.

I've found a more independent source for your addition to the Getty Center article and have edited the article to use it. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Sad to say, the personal reminescences of the older folk are useless to us here, as they don't qualify asverifiable published reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

well, at the very least I have developed a new appreciation for this strange animal called wikipedia, thanks for all the help.Awesome salt (talk) 17:30, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Contributing to Wikipeadia

How do i edit and save in orer to make a contribution to Subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.77.154.39 (talk) 21:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you read Wikipedia:How to edit a page (concise) as an introduction to editing. Feel free to ask more questions if you need to. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:31, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

January 13

Verification

Hi

Can you tell me how to get rid of the citation and Verification notice at the top of a page I am editing. I've done citations but not sure how to get rid of it now.

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npnorman (talk • contribs) 12:28, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

If when you hit "Edit this page", you see something like {{Refimprove|date=June 2009}} at the top of the page, perhaps that's what you're talking about? - David Biddulph (talk) 13:16, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

And if you believe you have added enough citations to the article, you may remove the tag yourself. Do explain in the edit summary what you are doing and why. If somebody disagrees with you they might put the notice back, but I would hope they would explain to you what they thought was still lacking. --ColinFine (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

From Article Wizard to posting it

How do I post an article after I have created it in Article Wizard?Robbilyeu (talk) 13:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

You'll find useful advice at WP:FIRST. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

And also at WP:SYMUD. – ukexpat (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

January 14

amort formula is backwards

When you look up Amortization the formula is correct but gives the monthly payment, A, inside the formula. (ALMOST) NO ONE WOULD USE THE FORMULA THIS WAY!!!!!!!!!! You want A = (the rest of the formula) because A is the monthly payment that you are trying to find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.112.27 (talk) 03:46, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Amortization (business) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I agree. I have added one of the formulae from the Amortization calculator article. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:11, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Uploading images that are copyright?

Hi

I have just signed up to be an editor, and have understood how to format and edit the text of an article.

However, it is a biography of a painter, and I would like to upload some images of his work to add value to the content. I have permission from the artist, but these pictures remain copyright to him.

I have two questions (probably obvious, but I cant find the answer!)

1) where and how do I upload these images?

2) my understanding is that images on Wikipedia cannot be copyright? What do people normally do in this situation for an artists work which is clearly copyright, but vital really to the article.

Hope you can help

All the best

Elliot

OttieF (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

First please look at the notability guidelines at WP:GNG and at WP:ARTIST. So far, your David Dane draft article only refers to his autobiography and his website. Both of these are self-published sources. Your article needs to include references to independent sources to establish that this artist is notable.

The artist's permission to upload to Wikipedia is not enough by itself, because everything at Wikipedia has to be re-usable by others. See donating copyright materials for the rights that the artist would have to grant, and the procedures that the artist would have to follow to make the grant. Feel free to ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions for more help - I'm not an expert. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Tom Brady's posted stats

If you look at the posted stats for Post Season, you will notice that in the Interception total is listed as 18. The correct total is 15. He has thrown 28 Touchdowns and 15 Interceptions. Thanks for Correcting this.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allengreene (talk • contribs) 15:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source for this information, please be bold and edit the article yourself (citing the source). If you do not feel confident to do this, please put the information (with your source) on the article's talk page, so somebody else can add it to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:13, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

January 15

ADD Greg Abate alto saxophone

Hello, would you add Greg Abate 1047 Alto sax to the list ? WWW.GREGABATE.COM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.80.145 (talk) 05:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Greg Abate alto sax 1947

would you add Greg to the list

Greg Abate Music www.gregabate.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.80.145 (talk) 06:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Greg Abate (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Which list do you mean? Please post the page name or the URL. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess they meant List of jazz saxophonists where they added themselves. They seem to belong so there's not a problem with that but I have recommended they don't do that in the future per WP:COI Nil Einne (talk) 21:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

P.S. They aren't on List of saxophonists but I'm not sure if they belong there (they're a saxophonists but I don't know if the list is intended to have all or only the subset of saxophonists who are particularly notable). They also asked at Wikipedia:RDM#ADD NAME TO SAXOPHONIST LIST Nil Einne (talk) 21:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've left some comments at User talk:68.229.80.145 Nil Einne (talk) 23:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Need help with title on my first article

Resolved

 – User has worked out how to move the page John of Reading (talk) 08:53, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I've posted my first article: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Rittenhoused/Philip_N._Diehl

Why is the User:Rittenhoused/ prefix added to the title on this page and how do I get rid of it? Thanks.

Rittenhoused (talk) 06:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

January 16

Italic article titles

Hello! I am working on an article about a United States Supreme Court case, Department of Interior v. Klamath Water Users Protective Assn.. Is there a way I can move the page in a way that will make the title in italics, since this is a court case? Thanks in advance, Lord Roem (talk) 01:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Use {{Italic title}} somewhere on the page. No move necessary. --Danger (talk) 02:03, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Great! Thanks, Lord Roem (talk) 02:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Digital Amnesia - This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards

I'm trying to figure out why the notice "This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards" is still on my page. What am I missing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peyronnin (talk • contribs) 05:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Digital amnesia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

The tag is still there because no one has removed it yet! There is no automatic process for removing these tags; it's up to individual editors to make the quality assessment and remove the {{Cleanup}} tag from the top of the article. I expect that the article will attract some attention just by being posted here.

You've referred to the article as "my page", so I'll point you at Wikipedia:Ownership of articles before anyone else does. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've done some minor cleanup and added some more specific tags. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I see what you've done and thank you. Breach of Wikipediettiquette duly noted. Chastised contributor will emerge from the woodshed after having written "Wikipedia is a group project, first person singular personal pronouns will not be used." 100 times. (For the record, I didn't mean "my" when I said "my", but I don't want to sound like I was quibbling). Thanks again for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peyronnin (talk • contribs) 13:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Environmental possibilism

Define Environmental possibilism? --134.146.0.43 (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

The term is discussed here. If that doesn't help, you might like to ask at the Science reference desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

restoring the definition of "Roshomon Effect"173.79.215.147 (talk) 17:25, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I see that the page explaining the Roshomon Effect has been removed and now has a re-direct to the more general page for Roshomon, making it much harder to comprehend the psychological explanation for differences in perception which that film is about. I ask that restore that definition for this reason.

Thank you. John Boyer

If you look at the history of the page, you will see that User:DarkProdigy did that two days ago, leaving the log message "merging content from stub 'Rashomon effect', table for tv references". If you think there are better solutions, you should take up the issue on the talk page Talk:Rashomon. --ColinFine (talk) 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

January 17

bot

Hi. i`m from ko.wikipedia. I recently create Template:Dated maintenance category on ko.wiki. but, i can`t categorize former articles that did not appointed date. so, i want to appoint date with my bot ko:wiki:user:Altobot. How to command to my bot to appoint date on maintenance template? Of course, i don`t know when the template attached.--Altostratus (talk) 08:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you ask this question at Village pump (technical) -- John of Reading (talk) 10:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Thx.--Altostratus (talk) 10:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

How to format an article.

I have just done some editting of grammar of this page:[[1]], but I have some errors in the formating. Also, can I ask how do I make the text start on a new line on my userpage? My account name is Ysjzysn.Ysjzysn (talk) 11:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed the formatting at Namestovo church by removing the spaces from the start of the paragraph - see this help page section for an example. And I have improved the layout on your user page, I hope, by adding the {{clear}} template. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Botanical pages

Is there a template for starting botanical entries? Michael Bailes (talk) 12:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not aware of one, but you could start by copying the wiki text from another botanical article. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

You may also find the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants helpful. – ukexpat (talk) 16:33, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Someone keeps taking down my page

Hello,

Someone keeps taking down the page I am working on for my company. I keep trying to cite sources, but the page is still being taken down.

I am working on the page for my work with the designer Nicole Miller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmiller25 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nmiller, welcome to wikipedia. I presume that Nicole Miller is the company you work for?

One of the most important policies of wikipedia is that articles aim for a neutral point of view. If people who are affiliated with the company edit the article, then that creates a conflict of interest, because it's difficult to write neutrally about someone you work for. Its heavily discouraged to edit articles where you have a conflict of interest, so it would probably be better just to leave it.

If you still want to edit this article, I'd advice reading through the links I gave above. Discuss any changes you want to make on the article talk page (Talk:Nicole_Miller) and try to reach a consensus with other editors, rather than undoing each others edits, which might get you blocked in the end. In particular, the article will need to have an impartial tone (specifically, "Her design aesthetic has an ageless quality and a young sensibility." sounds rather like advertising and not very impartial); the claims will need reliable, independant sources; and there should be no links to external websites from the article text (this would count as advertising too).

Yours,--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 18:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I just became aware of this response and the block on this user, I've also separately left a note to her response on my talk page at [2]. --j⚛e decker^talk 19:28, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

In case it's not clear from all the other responses: your boss has given an unachievable task. --ColinFine (talk) 22:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

renaming/editing the page "Morgenthaler"

Hi Wikipedia-insiders

So far I have only contributed on a pages in the German Wikipedia. In the English one, I'd like to to the following with my new login I had to create:

• Rename the actual page Morgenthaler to Morgenthaler venture (or something alike), as it contains "just" facts about a company called Morgenthaler.
• Edit and expand the existing Morgenthaler (disambiguation) and make it the new Morgenthaler page. There will, of course, a link to the moved Morgenthaler_venture, all information from the actual disambiguation and new general information about the name Morgenthaler.
• Delete the existing Morgenthaler (disambiguation), as all information will be on the new page.

If I read the FAQ correctly, I am not allowed to move a page as a new contributor. In addition, I don't want to mess with the people of that Morgenthaler Venture company. How do I proceed?

Thanks in advance for help! Mmorgy (talk) 22:38, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think anything needs to be done here. Morgenthaler (disambiguation) is a perfectly fine disambiguation page and per the naming conventions for companies, Morgenthaler seems fine too. – ukexpat (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks, so I'll add the information to the Morgenthaler (disambiguation) page. Mmorgy (talk) 05:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

What kind of information are you planning to add there? The Morgenthaler (disambiguation) page should contain only one-line entries pointing elsewhere. If you have more (referenced) information to add about the Morgenthaler companies, you should be expanding Morgenthaler. You won't be "messing with the people of the Morgenthaler Venture company" if you edit there, because they don't own the page - see ownership of articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Exactly, the stuff about the name should be in a new article Morgenthaler (name) rather than on the disambiguation page. I have undone the recent edits to the disambiguation page. – ukexpat (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I have created Morgenthaler (name) and given credit to User:Mmorgy in the edit summary. – ukexpat (talk) 15:59, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I have added a link on Morgenthaler (disambiguation) to Morgenthaler (name). Hope that was the way to do it. Mmorgy (talk) 17:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

January 18

adding pictures

i wanted to ask if i was allowed to add a few pictures or update some articles about lucknow ( a city in india). if i'm allowed to do so, i'd like to know how.

Chitranshvarun (talk) 07:05, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi! There is no protection on the Lucknow page, and you'd be very welcome to contribute. Though there are a few caveats, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit - you don't need anyone's permission before you start working on a page (instead, we encourage editors to be bold!) As for how to do so:

• If you want to add pictures, take a look at this page. Good quality pictures that are not subject to copyright restrictions are welcome. If there's a picture already uploaded to Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons that you want to use, this tutorial will walk you through adding it to an article. If you're planning to upload pictures yourself, start by reading our image use policy to make sure the material is suitable and legal to use on Wikipedia.
• As for updating articles, the short answer is to click on the "edit this page" link at the top of the article you want to update. If you're unsure how to deal with Wikipedia's formatting and markup, there's a tutorial here that introduces all aspects of editing articles, and helps you make sure your edits comply with Wikipedia's guidelines and policies. Or if you have questions about a specific edit you want to make, feel free to ask again here and we'll talk you through it. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Please also note that images that comply with Commons licensing requirements should be uploaded there so that they are available to all Wikimedia projects. – ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

To link or not to link

Hi! I read in the Wikipedia suggestions to not overuse links. But when I look at other Wikipedia listings there is a lot of blue on the pages. I could put a LOT more Wikipedia links on the page I'm working on. Should I or shouldn't I? Thank you.JulanneDalke (talk) 09:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

For every link you're considering adding, ask yourself "How likely is it that the reader will also want to read that other article?" Link to other articles that will help the reader understand material more fully, especially in the case of technical terms or where the other article supplies useful background. But don't feel compelled to link every word that happens to coincide with an article title, including widely-understood and plain-English terms. There's a full discussion at WP:LINKS that should help you out. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Update of the European Air Group (EAG) page on Wikipedia

Hello, I am Brigadier General LAURENT, Deputy Director of the EAG at RAF High Wycombe (UK ) (see our website : www.euroairgroup.org) I charged last year Major C. Bleijerveld (member of EAG) to update the information on EAG provided by Wikipedia. He says me now that he has a lot of difficulties publishing the article he made to replace the obsolete one. Could somebody explain this since Wikipedia is famed to publish the exact informations and data. I confirm that the existing article is absolutely not updated, speaking more about EATC than about EAG. For your information, EATC is absolutely not related to EAG... Could you explain me why it is so difficult to put this update on your site ? Do you need a formal letter or other proof that we are the right persons to do this ? Thanks for your answer P. LAURENT, Ir Brig Gen Deputy Director EAG RAF High Wycombe Buckinghamshire HP14 4UE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.121.245.143 (talk) 16:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Please read the FAQ for Organizations, which will answer these questions more clearly than I can. Feel free to post here again if you have further questions.

I have glanced through the version of the article at User:Keesbleijerveld and note that it mostly consists of text previously published at www.euroairgroup.org, on pages marked "Copyright © 2009 · All rights reserved". I have therefore tagged the page for speedy deletion. Wikipedia cannot accept text that is subject to copyright. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:59, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I wrote a wikipedia and i havent gotten any response yet, it has been a week!

How long does it usually take for a wiki to post?CharlieBalducci (talk) 17:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Most edits at Wikipedia take effect immediately. However, you wrote the text on your user page, which is not part of the encyclopedia. I'm afraid that if this text is intended as a Wikipedia article, it is not appropriate - it contains no references to show how the information can be checked in reliable sources, and to judge by your chosen user name, is an autobiography. Writing an autobiography at Wikipedia is strongly discouraged, for the reasons explained here. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:15, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

It also smacks of shameless self-promotion which is not permitted by WP:SPAM. – ukexpat (talk) 18:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I've {{noindex}}ed the page for the time being. --Danger (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Daniel Webster Biography

Your biography of Daniel Webster is incorrect. He was voted out of office in New Hampshire and then went on to represent the First Congressional District of Massachusetts for three terms DANIEL WEBSTER 1823-1826

Webster was born in Salisbury, New Hampshire, in 1782 and attended Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter. After graduating from Dartmouth College in 1801, he pursued a law degree and was admitted to the bar in 1805. He practiced law in New Hampshire for several years, and was active in politics in the Granite State.

Webster served as a representative to Congress from both Massachusetts and New Hampshire. He was a Federalist, and served two terms as a representative from New Hampshire. But after voters there kicked him out of office, he moved his law practice to Boston, where he would achieve national recognition while representing Dartmouth College before the Supreme Court. In 1822, now a local hero, Webster was elected to Congress from the Boston-based First District to the first of three terms.

Please edit

Lyle Ryter (Redacted) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.140.222 (talk) 23:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources to support what you are saying, please be bold and edit the article yourself! – ukexpat (talk) 05:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

January 19

Link to an image

Hello, the article already exists on Wikipedia and the image file has been uploaded. Now, can someone please guide me through the process of linking the image to the existing article? Thank you, Mooringboats (talk) 20:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I added this code: [[File:George hawkins.jpg|thumb]] to the article, see this edit. I have also tagged the image because it does not provide any evidence that the copyright owner has released it into the public domain. If you have such evidence please follow the process at WP:IOWN to provide the evidence to permissions for review. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)If you want to add an existing image to an article, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any trouble or more questions. --Danger (talk) 20:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

You do not have an entry for Butlocks Heath in Eastleigh, Hampshire, England.

Re: You do not have an entry for Butlocks Heath in Eastleigh, Hampshire, England.

hiding art text; I removed cats and stub too

Also at; Butlocks Heath is a village in the district of Fareham in Hampshire, England. The village lies approximately 3.4 miles (5.4 km) south-east from Southampton. This Hampshire location article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.v · d · e When you expand it, it shows Locks Heath in Fareham. Locks Heath Locks Heath Location within Hampshire District Fareham Shire county Hampshire Region South East Country England Sovereign state United Kingdom Post town SOUTHAMPTON Postcode district PO14, PO15 Postcode district {{{postcode_district1}}} Dialling code 01489 Police Hampshire and Isle of Wight Fire Hampshire and Isle of Wight Ambulance South Central UK Parliament Fareham Butlocks Heath is a village in the district of Fareham in Hampshire, England. The village lies approximately 3.4 miles (5.4 km) south-east from Southampton.

Last year I asked the local 'Hound Historical Society' to add information about Butlocks Heath and they have not taken up that option. If I submitted some information to put us on the map, and you check the content. Will that be ok?

I have information that I have been supplied by the 'HHS' and other bits that I have put together myself from weeks of web browsing and from my own knowledge and talking to neighbours in Butlocks Heath. I may not have all the references required, but I am willing to put BH on the map and let others know so that they can add and edit. Hopefully this will give us, as a village, just as much standing as Netley Abbey, which is in the Parish of Hound along with BH and Old Netley, and also Hamble (Hamble-le-Rice).

Can you please let me know if I can procede and how to.

Regards,

David Collingwood.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.224.94 (talk • contribs)

Well, you could create an account and then have a stab at creating the article yourself. Or, head over to WP:Requested articles and leave a request that it be created. Standard creation advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation. – ukexpat (talk) 21:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

January 20

I do not understand title page and notes I am getting on it

I do not understand why I get the note --- name is black listed?

Why?

I can not edit the title page, Why?

Also I have you tube video which are exerts of television programs---why is that not a suggested link for source notes — Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyBoyROse (talk • contribs) 00:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

We need some more information. Are you referring to User:DannyBoyROse/new article name here? – ukexpat (talk) 01:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

See WP:YOUTUBE for a brief summary of when Youtube is acceptable and why. --ColinFine (talk) 08:31, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

January 21

HELP?! i dont know how to keep my page...

I I recently made a page about me, and my works and influences as a theatre artist, and even though im not known around the world, i would like to put this information up. I wish to use this in future to direct future companies and artists to view to get an over look of how i work, and in which direction i like to work.

This page i made was called Mändägè (my 'stage' name) And as soon as i created it, it was deleted being called 'not importance, and not of any significance.' I was just wondering, as the information about this subject is vague, how i get around this problem, and re-post my self-bibliograhy, and it not to be deleted.

Thanks Mändägè — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolkitty1990 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, this is not permitted. Wikipedia may not be used for self-promotion, no matter how worthy the subject. The word used is not "important" or "significant", but "notable", which has a precise meaning for Wikipedia: articles can only be about subjects which have already been written about in independent, reliable published sources. Please read WP:Autobiography. --ColinFine (talk) 10:00, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

January 22

ARTICLE ON LUIS ANTONIO MAÑERU

HI! I desperately need help in order to save the article on Luis Antonio Mañeru. I don't understand what I have to do. Can someone talk me through it? Lamaneru (talk) 09:28, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello Lamaneru. The many notices which have been placed on the page indicate what is wrong with the article. The main point is that "A search for references failed to find significant coverage in reliable sources to comply with notability requirements". The only way to save this article is for somebody to find reliable sources which have written about Mañeru, and reference them in a way that the general reader can locate the reference. "University of Santo Tomas Library" is not a useful reference in Wikipedia's terms, because it does not tell anybody how to find the source. See WP:CITE.

However, there is a more serious problem: judging by your username, it appears that you are Mañeru, or somebody closely connected with him. If this is the case you should not be editing this article: see WP:autobiography.

The procedure for contesting a proposed deletion is described at WP:CONTESTED: you may remove the deletion notice from the article; but unless you provide the multiple sources required to estable notability (and disclose your conflict of interest, if you have one), it is likely that somebody will immediately nominate it for deletion again.

The person who proposed the article for deletion seems to have made an error of some sort, because the source of the PROD template is appearing in the page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

No, it's just that the "reason" is much longer than usual. See, by way of comparison, Sleep Is for Sissies. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

NATO

For completing Further reading in the article NATO:

General history:

Lothar Schröter: Die NATO im Kalten Krieg. Die Geschichte des Nordatlantikpaktes bis zur Auflösung des Warschauer Vertrages. Homilius, Berlin 2009; Band I. 1949–1975. Eine Chronik, ISBN 978-3-89706-914-5, Band II. 1976–1991. Eine Chronik, ISBN 978-3-89706-915-2.

This is a chronicle of 1196 pages in 2 volumes. 93.221.152.178 (talk) 09:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

NATO (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I see that you also posted this at Talk:NATO. That's the best place for it, where it will be seen by the editors most interested in improving the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

First article (Psychotherapeutic Interventions for Substance Abuse and Co-morbid Conditions)

How can I fix the problem with my article? I think I know how I can improve it having looked again at the guidelines. Can I now edit it and have it reviewed? How do I create links and waht for? The dialogue box did not make sense to me. Where do I find the symbols (tildes?) on my key board? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Ross Colquhoun (talk • contribs) 22:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The problem with the article you created, Psychotherapeutic Interventions for Substance Abuse and Co-morbid Conditions, appears to be that it consists of original research. If you have published sources for some of it, that information can be added to relevant articles, such as substance abuse. If you do this, remember to cite your sources, and make sure that all information you add is verifiable and comes from reliable sources. I have trouble thinking of a way you could edit the article you created so as to preserve it from deletion, because the original research is so intrinsically part of it, but you can certainly edit it to attempt to do so. Please remove the proposed deletion template only if you are sure the article is acceptable under the deletion policy. There is no guarantee that anyone will review your article, but it is now proposed for deletion, so someone will assess it in a week to decide whether or not it should be deleted. Regarding links, see the help page on linking and the manual of style for linking. I don't know about your keyboard, but there is a button to automatically produce four tildes on the page you use to edit a page: it is the picture of a pencil writing at the top of the box containing the text of the page you are editing. Edits to articles should not be signed, but posts on talk pages and project pages such as this one should be.--Opus 113 (talk) 23:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

How can I fix the problem with my article? I think I know how to improve it having looked at the guidelines again. Can I go back and edit it at this stage? Where do I find the symbols (tildes ) on my key board? What has happened to the article The Nature of Addiction? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr Ross Colquhoun (talk • contribs) 22:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

It looks rather as if you do not understand the purpose of Wikipedia: it is an encyclopaedia, which records only information which has already been published. original research is not accepted. Both Psychotherapeutic Interventions for Substance Abuse and Co-morbid Conditions and the content you placed in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Nature of Addiction appear to be unencyclopaedic in content.

If you were to write a survey of existing published papers on either of these subjects with no theorising or synthesis they might be acceptable as Wikipedia articles.

On a UK keyboard (which I'm guessing you use, from your spelling "dialogue" the tilde is above the '#' sign three keys to the right of 'L'. --ColinFine (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

January 23

San Salvatore, Brescia

The external link in the article San Salvatore, Brescia leads to a wrong site (a museum in Livorno). The external link should be deleted or replaced by the correct one.WDohrmann (talk) 17:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

You're free to replace it yourself you know.. Be bold! -- œ^™ 19:16, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

January 24

What's an OP?

Quite often in Wikipedia discussions, particularly in Reference desk pages, I see the term "the OP" used, seemingly to refer to the person who asked the question in the first place. What does it mean, and why? HiLo48 (talk) 07:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Original Poster. :) We have a Glossary you can check if you want to learn about various terms on Wikipedia. -- œ^™ 08:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. HiLo48 (talk) 08:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Personal Conversations

Hello,

I'm preparing to launch my first article on a book called "What Engineers Know and How They Know It."

May I cite personal conversations with the author if personal conversations are not the only kind of citation? He is 93 years old so I'm fortunate to have information from interviews with him.

Thank you. --pjm 14:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizanthropy (talk • contribs)

No. To be used in Wikipedia, information must be verifiable due to it having been previously published in reliable sources: newspapers, journals, etc. Private correspondence, conversations, family traditions and e-mail are examples of things which do not qualify. Please also check WP:BOOK to see whether this book is likely to qualify as notable under our standards. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you I will check on the notable book qualifications. --pjm 20:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizanthropy (talk • contribs)

Bronze Star Medal and Award for same.

I was looking at your Military Awards page for the Congressional Medal of Honor and noticed the area for the Bronze Star Medal and their names. I know of two people who have those awards and would like to know how to submit their names so they can be added to your list. I have the awards and information for both of these gentelmen. One was KIA in WWll and the other one was in WWll, Korean Conflict and two combat tours of Viet Nam. I hope you can advise me on this. Thank you for your time and assistance. Respectfully 21:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.186.68.128 (talk)

Were you looking at Category:Recipients of the Bronze Star Medal? This page is not an exhaustive list of all recipients of the Bronze Star Medal, but only of those who have Wikipedia articles. To request new Wikipedia articles for the two people you have in mind, you could try Wikipedia:Requested articles/Biographies - but please read the advice at the top of the page. If you can gather enough information to meet the requirements listed there, there is a section further down that page for military figures. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

To clarify: getting the Bronze Star, or even the Silver Star, doesn't make somebody notable enough to be in an encyclopedia. What shows up on those lists, are people who are notable for something else AND who we happen to know had also received the Star. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC) proud son of a non-notable man who received both

January 25

Can I create a page for myself

Hello there, I am wondering if I can create a page for myself? Thanks, 07:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nakaman (talk • contribs)

The short answer is no. For the longer answer, read WP:COI and WP:Notability. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:07, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm stuck!

to wiki I'm stuck! I want to write a page but I don't know what to write it on help me!!!! -j-e~s~s~y~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessy2000 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Why not take a look at our list of requested articles, and find a notable subject that interest you? Then you can find reliable sources to refer to in writing the article, and the article creation wizard will walk you through the steps to put an article together. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Different language = different policy?

In a discussion about the removal of an article I posted links of similar Wikipedia articles in the English version of Wikipedia which were allowed.

The response of the community member who initiated the removal included (translated from Dutch):

"[the English community] has different removal policies and there is more freedom there in allowing articles."

Is it true that certain information can be put on the English Wikipedia, but is not allowed for example on the Chinese or Dutch Wikipedia? Even if publishing that information does not violate local laws? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MathijsM (talk • contribs) 21:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines, so what may be OK for En Wiki, may not be OK for other language Wikipedias, depending on their policies and guidelines. – ukexpat (talk) 22:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

This reflects that fact that most policy is made by the community, not by a board or committee. --ColinFine (talk) 23:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Inserting an image into a draft article on user page after uploading image to Wiki

I have uploaded an image to wiki. When I hit the "embedded file" icon I do not understand how to get my image into my draft article. Thank you.--pjm 23:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Hitting that button (provided you have the cursor clicked somewhere in the edit field below it) should insert a line of wiki markup reading [[File:Example.jpg]], with the text Example.jpg highlighted. What you need to do is replace Example.jpg with the filename (including the extension) of your file. Looking at your contribution history, I guess this would be File:Walter Vincenti Classification of Engineering Knowledge chart (pg 198)..jpg. Because that's a rather large image, you'll probably also want to set a display size attribute or tell the page to display it as a thumbnail - you can do this by replacing [[File:Example.jpg]] with e.g. [[File:Walter Vincenti Classification of Engineering Knowledge chart (pg 198)..jpg|thumb]]. You can find full details about all this at WP:IMAGE.

One final piece of advice - rather than manually typing your signature, you can have it automatically inserted on talk pages by typing a row of four tildes (~~~~). Your initials actually correspond to the username of another registered user (User:PJM), so it would be preferable to sign this way, as it avoids ambiguity and supplies a link to your Wikipedia user page and user talk page.

Does this answer your question? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:56, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Wow. So clear. Thank you very much.pjm 20:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. I tried the four tildes there but got the same result... I'll check my preferences page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grizanthropy (talk • contribs) 20:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I think I have the signature fixed now inasmuch as it goes to my talk page. --pjm (talk) 20:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Clarification of References Allowed

Could I get clarification on "advertisement" please? My understanding of the guidelines would be that edits (and references) to pages should contribute to the general knowledge base and not support one entity over another. For example, "the moon orbits the earth" (reference to a website/book with that stated) - rather than "website X, the best website on the subject, says the moon orbits the earth" (reference to website).

It shouldn't matter what the website being referenced is as long as it is a reputable site and the knowledge is written in a neutral way...am I correct? PhotoGuideLiz (talk) 23:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

"Reputable" isn't a term we use here. The reference should be to a reliable source with a neutral point of view; so a link to a standard reference work, rather than to a commercial website, would generally be preferred. We will tend to reject links to ad-supported sites unless the source is the best one for the information involved; any efforts at SEO and the like will be swiftly dealt with. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

So sites such as dppreview shouldn't be used? There are numerous links to several ad supported sites on the article in question while other ad supported sites (I really hate to even use that term with many of the sites that have ads on them) that are very reputable sources of knowledge are routinely banned?PhotoLiz 15:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhotoGuideLiz (talk • contribs)

My view is that http://dpreview.com is an extremely reliable source, ad supported or not. – ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I would agree with you Ukexpat, I'm just seeking confirmation of some sort of guideline. About.com is owned by the New York Times, subject to rigorous editorial review, and uses a neutral tone but has been called unreliable in the past so I don't understand what the real standard is...unless it is just whichever editor shouts loudest.PhotoLiz 19:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhotoGuideLiz (talk • contribs)

We must also keep in mind that most newspapers, magazines and even academic journals are to one extent or another ad-supported. The greater concern is when a citation seems to have been sourced in order to increase traffic to a website ("spamlinking"), for whatever motivation, rather than using a bog-standard reference work as a source. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

See related material at WP:REFSPAM. --CliffC (talk)

January 26

adding {{hangon}} on the page

How do I add {{hangon}} directly to the end of the notice as requested? And Can I explain my reasons on talk page without placing a {{hangon}} on the original page? – Elifm (talk) 09:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

• Your question was self-answering! You add {{hangon}} thus! Obviously you can post to the talk page without an hangon tag but the tag makes it more likely that people will look at the talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Helen Bamber Foundation

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Dear editors,

I am a little confused (and the hundreds, maybe thousands, of Wikihelp pages haven't helped me! I almost don't know where to start, it is daunting). I wrote a page yesterday having made an account, but the page has not been linked to my account (Samuelmiles) - will this be a problem? Also I cannot find where my page is progressed to in the edit stakes...it hasn't seemed to have gone live, at any rate. It is called 'Helen Bamber Foundation'. Any help appreciated!

Samuel Miles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.211.221 (talk) 11:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

You just asked this at the Help desk and I have replied there. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

guerney--type

I agree with the article/definition that a guerney is a type of stretcher. But according to the inset photo, the reverse is indicated. Is the photo wrong, the definition, or me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.107.242.20 (talk) 15:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Gurney (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I don't know, but I've changed the photo caption to match the text! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

January 27

Problems with Image Uploads and Setting File Links/categories

Here's my situation, I joined Wikipedia to edit some articles of interest, and then found them to be locked. Ok, so than I decided to clean-up/edit graphics instead. I worked on about 15 files and thought now I can upload them. That's when I found out you have to be auto confirmed. Then, pretty much anything I upload gets deleted for one reason or another. One file went to Commons, and I got a deletion notice. They said upload it at Wikipedia and I got another message saying to upload it at Wikipedia before it gets deleted at Commons. I have been trying to upload it from the first deletion notice, but it won't upload. And because it had uploaded I altered the "original image page" to let them know the image was in SVG format. So when I re-edited the original image page to take off the SVG notice, I messed up the whole page. It took me awhile to figure out how to get it back. So I gave up on trying to upload the file. Today I went to Commons and they are debating whether they should keep the file.

In the meantime I uploaded a new image and it would not display properly. I edited it so many times with no success I requested that it be deleted. I reworked the image and uploaded it. I contacted the administrator who deleted it, to inform them that I uploaded the deleted page and asked them to look it over and advise me of any problems the page may have. So now I'm confident the page has no problems with licensing or upload information.

As I've been bouncing around from hyperlink to hyperlink from "Regulations/Templates", "How To's" and "Editors Do" pages, I read as a graphics editor I am to link the file throughout Wikipedia set the categories and I think I read something about tags. Only god knows where I've been and where I came from. In using "help me and chat" I think I learned I'm pretty close to having the cops break down my door and haul me off to jail for copyright infringement.

Adding to the problem, I hadn't used the recommended editing program "Inkscape" before so I chose the simplest graphics images, so I could learn the program. Unfortunately the images fall into two "unique" licenses. neither of which is listed in the Upload, "Licensing Drop-down menu". So for one license I chose the (recommended) and once uploaded I removed it and copied the license from the original image page onto the new page. I can't do that for the other license likely why I can't upload it.

So now I'm at the point where I should link the file. But it seems that it's the license that links the file and sets the categories. (which are now totally different from the original file page). In searching on how to change the categories and link the page. I came across an article that says "Inkscape" images don't always display well in thumbnails so you may need to "bypass" the browser cache". I don't even know what that means.

In looking over the (New Image) Edit Page I assume the text/templates at the bottom of the page have something to do with the categories/page links. But I have no clue which ones need to be altered/removed or what needs to be added.

If I just leave it like it is, will someone fix this problem? Or will the image just be an orphan taking up cyberspace? And I have all the images that I edited and if I can get them to upload, will those files also be just more space junk? Which comes down to, what was the point in me editing them in the first place? This is the Image page. File:30thAnniversaryOfConstructionTroops.svg So now what do I do? - Niineta (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll attempt a reply since no-one else has.

First, thank you for your interest and perseverance in improving the encyclopedia.

Yes, I'm sorry that the "help" pages for image licensing and copyrights are so complicated. The underlying problem is that the laws on licensing and copyright are complicated, and are outside Wikipedia's control. The project has to abide by the laws - I'm sure you'll agree that lawsuits are expensive and damaging. I have asked at WP:MCQ for someone to check the licensing/copyright tags on the image you mention.

Taking a wider view, you might like to look at the Community portal for other ways to help the project that might be less complicated. Scroll down one page to the box headed "Help out". -- John of Reading (talk) 08:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this was very complicated because I didn't understand the regulations and the rational in how the copyrights are applied to the work. But, I've done more studying of the copyrights and the copyright discussion pages and now have a much clearer picture. And I also now have a solid knowledge of the contents of the Upload "drop-down menu" and where to find the appropriate copyright.

The problem would have never arose if I had only worked on files where the format stayed the same. Where you simply upload a new version of the same file. Not knowing the procedure would change with the new format I was unprepared to deal with it.

Plus being new to the whole new world of editing I've made many mistakes. No matter where I make an effort to help that may well be the case. My hope is things won't get too much worse before they get better. - Niineta (talk) 17:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

You plunged straight into editing in an area that can reduce even fairly experienced Wikipedians to wailing and gnashing their teeth; I'm rather impressed that your question was worded as calmly as it was! But as John of Reading says, thank you for helping and persevering. It does get better, it is fun, and it makes a difference. Constructive edits are always needed and honest mistakes are fixable and won't be held against you: everybody makes them. Welcome, and happy editing. Karenjc 17:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed dealing with images may seem rather a nightmare until you understand the wider picture which is why I wrote my image copyright information page but for US related copyright Quadell's US copyright page is also useful in this regard. Where you are uploading different formats of an existing file the source should indicate the original file but state that you made the format conversion and list the original in the "other version" field as the image now shows, but being a derivative work you can't claim copyright over the new image because you have not added any creative input, so I have refined the copyright tag to credit to the original creator. ww2censor (talk) 14:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, this is exactly what I am questioning. How do you apply "unique copyrights" when uploading a file? "Unique copyrights" can't be selected from the "drop-down menu". In trying to include these copyrights I had tried to insert them into the "upload summery" which prevents the file from uploading. Furthermore if I copy them into the file "Edit" page after the upload then the categories and file links are not appropriate for the copyright. Also which added to my mistake. . . I did not select the "Own Work PD" copyright because it is not my work, but had no idea how to get around that. The simplest solution would be a selection on the Upload "drop-down menu" for PD derivative work. I can't believe I am the only one who has had this problem. I was following the instructions(I asked to be provided) I may well have interpreted them incorrectly.

I will read the information you provided, and I hope they will answer my question. Niineta (talk) 16:51, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

What is the correct selection for the copyright such as this? The copyright on this page is also different from the LOGO copyright contained in the drop-down menu.. . Are they simply interchangeable? http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Girl_Guides_Association_of_Jamaica.png. - Niineta (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I want to thank everyone for their input. Since I've had time to backtrack, I have a good Idea where I went wrong. I missed much of the appropriate procedures because 99% of the time I was lost in the maze of information. I see now that my downfall was trying to do things to quickly without a clear understanding. Thanks to everyone who helped me - Niineta (talk) 06:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of the page

We have edited the articels twice and try to update on Wikipedia, but still get the result of speedy deletion, could you please help to advise? We would like to know which part getting wrong? Thank you Crvmore admin (talk) 06:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I suggest that you read what it says on your user talk page at User talk:Crvmore admin#Speedy deletion nomination of Crvmore.com, and also read WP:CORPORATE and WP:NOTADVERTISING. In view of your user name and the name of the article, you ought also to read WP:CORPNAME and WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Trying to create new page for Lufthansa Consulting

I am trying to create a page for Lufthansa Consulting but the name is redirected to the Lufthansa page and therefore isn't free. How should I proceed? I would certainly place a link between the two pages. I have written page content with references to supporting articles and links to other pages in Wikipedia. Please notify my talk page with a reply. Many thanks Constance Place 11:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Constance Place (talk • contribs)

When you've been redirected, a small bit of text will appear below the title of the article saying "Redirected from X", with a link on X. You can click there and get to the title that you want and edit that page as if it were any other Wikipedia page. Just remove the code #REDIRECT [[Article title]] from the top. (This link will also take you to that page.)

If you are affiliated in some way with Lufthansa Consulting, please read our guidelines on conflicts of interest. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. --Danger (talk) 12:34, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, if you want your work not to get deleted rapidly, please read WP:YFA and WP:ORG. --ColinFine (talk) 19:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

January 28

IP address?

I am at best semi-literate with computers. What is this IP address I need in order to try to help edit Wikipedia? Phyllis Ann Karr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.78.190 (talk) 14:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. Everyone on the internet is automatically assigned an IP address. You should be able to edit Wikipedia either anonymously (which displays your IP address) or with an account (which hides your IP address). Does this help answer your question? TNXMan 14:43, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

e/cHi there, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your IP address is an automatically-assigned number that identifies the connection you're using to access the internet (and therefore Wikipedia). You don't need to enter it anywhere (or even know it!) to edit Wikipedia; Wikipedia will simply keep a log of it against any edits you make. (You can see this log here; that number (68.234.78.190) is your current IP address).

Maybe you've come across the term because someone suggested that you register an account to edit Wikipedia instead of "editing as an IP"? If you do this, Wikipedia will "know" you by your account name instead of your IP address, and your edits will be logged against your account's username rather than your IP address. It's optional, but has some benefits (explained at this page). If that sounds like something you want to do, click here to get started. Or if you meant something else, or this doesn't answer your question, perhaps you can explain a bit more here? Gonzonoir (talk) 14:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

January 29

comments

How do I insert the superscript comments that I often see in articles (eg "reference needed")? Please advise on my talk page. Deipnosophista (talk) 18:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

You'll find them all listed in Category:Inline templates and described at Wikipedia:Template messages and the sub-pages that it links to. I'll copy this to your talk page as requested. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Anderson shelter as shown only half built! would calapse in rain! I'm researching a bk of that era, me in shelters for 25 yrs! SO I CAN CORRECT THIS CRAZY PHOTO, N.BRIDGEMAN EX AS AN ADULT.

SO HOW DO i ADD CORRECT INFORMATION? iM NOT A COMPUTER NUT..AT 77 CAN GIVE INFORMATION..LITTLE KNOWLEDG EOF COMPUTER TECH! HELP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.188.5 (talk) 22:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not entirely clear what you are asking, but I think you are saying that the photograph at Air-raid shelter#Anderson shelter is not very appropriate. If so, there are various options that you or anybody else might do:

• If you think that the picture is OK, but the caption does not adequately describe it, you can edit the article to change the caption.
• If you have a better photo that is free of copyright (either it is in the public domain, or you own the copyright and are willing to donate it), you can upload the photo and replace the one in the article. (You will need to register and account in Wikipedia to do this: it does not cost anything, and has other advantages). If you want to pursue this possibility, please read the image tutorial.
• If you think that the picture is so unrepresentative that it does not belong in the article, you can edit the article to remove it.

If you do do any of these, especially the last, please make sure you give a reasonable explanation in the edit summary of what you have done and why, otherwise somebody else may think you are vandalising the article. If you don't feel happy making any of these changes yourself, the best place to discuss it is at the article's talk page, where others who have knowledge or interest in that particular article are likely to see your submission and discuss it with you.

Finally, please don't SHOUT (which is how it often comes across if you type in ALL CAPITALS). --ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

January 30

biography

I have read potted biographies of journalists and academics such as myself on wikipedia. I would like one of myself to be included. How can I achieve this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesAnslow (talk • contribs) 01:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Suggested reading: WP:BIO, WP:PROF, WP:COI, and WP:AUTO. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Do potted biographies have to be repotted occasionally, like azaleas? As David points out, Wikipedia does have inclusion guidelines for subjects that you may not meet and even if you do it's strongly suggested that you do not write one yourself. If you have been the subject of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, you could add yourself to the list of requested biographies. --Danger (talk) 14:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

January 31

Blasius equation

Please get rid of "??" of "Blasius boundary layer" in Wikipedia

==Falkner-Skan boundary layer== ??

Done -- John of Reading (talk) 12:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

edit wiki

how do i add content to a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.219.124 (talk) 15:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Citing sources to begin with. If you have more questions, feel free to ask again here. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Need Help Submitting Article Please

I've recently submitted a wiki article for the first time. It was declined but I do not understand why in order to revise it. I've read carefully the instructions so I'm not sure where I went wrong.

I'd like to re-submit it so any advise is appreciated.

Thanks again, Uandura

Collapsing extended content

Article Submitted Ron Liebman (born October 11, 1943) is a former federal prosecutor, criminal defense lawyer, novelist and musician. He was on the three-person team that prosecuted former vice-president Spiro T. Agnew, former Maryland governor Marvin Mandel and a series of other corrupt Maryland public officials. During a 30-year career in private practice of law, he wrote the novels Grand Jury, Death By Rodrigo and Jersey Law (publication date: June 14, 2010) and the nonfiction Shark Tales—True and Amazing Stories from America’s lawyers. He is also a blues drummer in the metropolitan Washington, DC area. Early life and education: Liebman was born in Baltimore, Maryland, the only child of Harry and Martha Liebman, German Jews who fled the Nazis and immigrated to South Africa in the mid 1930’s. His grandparents later also managed to flee Germany and settled in Baltimore, Maryland, where his parents joined them in the early 1940’s. Liebman was born there on October 11, 1943, coincidently the same birth date as the actor Ron Leibman, who was born on that day six years earlier. Liebman attended Forest Park High School (1961), McDaniel College (1966) and received his law degree from the University of Maryland (1969). Career: Following graduation from Law School, Liebman was selected as a law clerk to the Honorable R. Dorsey Watkins, the Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Maryland (1969-1970). When his clerkship ended, Liebman worked for a short time as an associate in a Baltimore City law firm (1970-1972) and then served as an Assistant United States Attorney in the Maryland federal prosecutor’s office (1972-1979). It was there that he became a member of the team that prosecuted vice-president Spiro T. Agnew, governor Marvin Mandel and others. During a part of this time Liebman and his colleagues reported directly to the Attorney General of the United States, Elliot L. Richardson. After leaving the Justice Department, Liebman moved with his family to Washington, DC to become a partner in a boutique litigation law firm (1979-1981), and then became a partner in the powerhouse lobbying law firm Patton Boggs, LLC (1981-2007). During his twenty-six years as a partner at that firm he served for a time as Litigation Department head and member of the firm’s management and executive committees. His practice centered in large part on the banking and oil industries. He participated in the firm’s development of a substantial Middle East client base, focused primarily in the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. Liebman was then recruited as a partner at Dewey & LeBoeuf (2007-2008), one of America’s larger law firms with offices throughout the world. He discontinued the practice of law in 2008 to devote the majority of his time to his writing and music. Liebman is the co-editor of the legal treatise, Testimonial Privileges (First Edition, McGraw-Hill 1983). His first novel, Grand Jury, was published the same year as the treatise (Random House/Ballantine Books, 1983). He is the editor/author of Shark Tales—True and Amazing Stories from Americas Lawyers (Simon & Schuster, 2000). He also wrote the novel Death By Rodrigo (Simon & Schuster, 2007), the first in a planned series of novels based on the same two characters. Death By Rodrigo was optioned by the television producer and screenwriter David E. Kelly, who is best known for the TV shows Ally McBeal, Boston Public and Boston Legal. Liebman’s second in the series of novels is Jersey Law (Simon & Schuster, publication date June 14, 2010.) Personal life: Liebman married the artist Simma (Weintraub) Liebman in 1972. They have two grown daughters who live and work in New York. References: 1. A Heartbeat Away, The Investigation & Resignation of Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, by Richard M. Cohen and Jules Witcover (Vicking Press, 1974) 2. Go Quietly…or else, Spiro T. Agnew (Morrow, 1980) 3. Who’s Who in the World 4. Who’s who in America 5. Who’s who in American Law External links: Official website (http://www. Ronliebman.com) Facebook (Ron Liebman) Facebook fan page (Ron Liebman’s Page) Twitter (RonSLiebman)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Uandura (talk • contribs) 17:42, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

The reasons for the article being declined are at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ron Liebman, namely that you need to cite reliable third party sources in order to demonstrate notability. At the moment, the sources that you have listed do not help the reader determine notability. – ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

tables

I have just edited the international appearances section on Lincoln City F.C.'s page, but when it comes up the note, which is supposed to be after the table is before it and the table itself is situated under the next heading, famous and notable players, and is much wider than it was previously. I cannot find a solution, so my question is what has gone wrong? 95.150.12.106 (talk) 20:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

You knocked off the end of the table; I've put it back. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

How can I change an image?

Someone has created a Wikipedia page and uploaded an image that the artist would like to change. Please advise. 99.38.145.83 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:21, 31 January 2011 (UTC).

You'll have to be more specific. Telling us which page would help. You might find what you need at WP:Image tutorial. --ColinFine (talk) 23:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)