Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues
- See also wp:NHL info issues
NRIS information issues identifies possible errors and other issues in the National Register Information System (NRIS) database. This is a working page to detail information system glitches, factual inconsistencies, and potential factual errors in official information regarding properties and districts listed on the National Register of Historic Places of the United States. It is hoped that this recording may facilitate discussion, correspondence with the National Park Service/National Register, and corrections.
Please do not include here what appear to be errors at nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com — that site contains many errors, especially in its consistently yielding area figures for historic districts that are ten times the actual size. This is the result of that website misinterpreting the data from the NRIS.
Types of issues
[edit]Discrepances between NRIS database as downloaded vs. "Weekly Listings" announcements
[edit]- For example, for James H. Bounds Barn, in Marshall County, Oklahoma, the only item covering it in NRIS2013a version, as reported in NRHP infobox generator (by checking off "may not actually be listed" checkbox), which actually is supposted to cover up to September 30, 2014 afaik, is just an "DR" entry, which i think means some documentation is received, and it reflects the assignment of a reference number. It does NOT include the actual listing in December 2013 as reported in the Weekly Listings announcment ( "Weekly listings". National Park Service. December 27, 2013. ) and reported in the Featured listing announcement for this site ( "James H. Bounds Barn". Retrieved October 1, 2019. ). This later listing does use the same reference number. I think the NRIS2013a database somehow has just the initial, "DR" event. Do later versions of NRIS have both or does the actual listing replace the "DR" event?
- In Wikipedia, the National Register of Historic Places listings in Marshall County, Oklahoma page was updated by User:Ebyabe and User:Ipoellet to reflect the December 2013 announcements (and even to add coordinates based on consulting the NRHP registration document and using Google satellite view, I assume). I am afraid there is a discrepancy now between what Wikipedia shows (including this item) vs. what NRIS might show (not including it). --Doncram (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Changes implemented into NRIS directly, adjusting previous items, not reflected in any "Weekly Listings" announcement
[edit]There are several known instances of National Park Service making "corrections" by simply adjusting NRIS, but not reporting on that change by including it into a new Weekly announcement list, confound Wikipedia's coverage, which follows the weekly announcements. Some of these have been covered in wt:NRHP discussion previously. --Doncram (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Demolished properties apparently still listed
[edit]In many cases a building remains listed on the National Register even though the building was completely demolished. There may be a few cases where the National Register gives a street address where there is no building, while in fact the building still exists. It could be the wrong address, or in rare cases the historic building may have been moved to a different location, as happened for one case in Pasadena, California. doncram (talk) 20:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- In 2022, starting Category:Demolished but still listed on the National Register of Historic Places. If a building has been demolished but there has been no status change reported in weekly listings by the National Park Service, then let's categorize these. There are so many. They should also receive categories Category:Demolished buildings and structures in STATE and Category:Buildings and structures demolished in YEAR, as for Rose Building (Fairbanks, Alaska), for example. --Doncram (talk) 12:47, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Listing and delisting dates
[edit]The NRIS is an authoritative source on NRHP listing dates, but even in this topic there are issues: this discussion "Shortest time on Register" at wt:NRHP details a good number of listings for January 1, 19XX of various years that really apparently mean "some unknown date in the year 19XX". --doncram 18:11, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
Misc and unsorted towns issues
[edit]- I've noticed or heard of a bunch of similar location discrepancies when working on splitting out Los Angeles from Los Angeles County, and Chicago from Cook County, and Pittsburgh from its county, when creating List of Registered Historic Places in Los Angeles and List of Registered Historic Places in Chicago and List of Registered Historic Places in Pittsburgh. These are too numerous to detail all of them. --doncram (talk) 22:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, let's detail those, please. Detailing in progress.... doncram (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- There are numerous inconsistencies such as Colby Hall being listed as being in Newton Centre, Massachusetts, which is a neighborhood within Newton, Massachusetts. All the other listings in Newton Centre (incorrectely spelled Newton Center were put in with the other 180 or so Newton listings. (See List of Registered Historic Places in Newton, Massachusetts. -- clariosophic (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure how to further research and/or submit this one. doncram (talk) 20:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Adrian gets no bitches
Coordinates corrections
[edit]NOTE: COORDINATES CORRECTIONS probably are not worth noting here. See discussion at #Connecticut: coordinates
dadrian gets no bitches
Correspondence with the National Register
[edit]- The National Register has previously corrected NRIS or related webpages in response to error reports on other occasions. For example, an incorrect URL in the current Weekly Listings National Register's "Weekly Featured Listing" , at http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/nrlist.htm, was fixed today, on Wednesday September 3. Or at least it was fixed, and I received an email reporting it today. This was in response to a report I sent in during the weekend (and Monday was a holiday too). doncram (talk) 18:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- Also, the National Park Service has corrected other information, such as an incorrect address for a building in Syracuse, apparently reported after a photo of the building at that address was posted in wikipedia. And it addressed a mis-identification of the wrong building in New York City (Florence Mills House) as a National Historic Landmark, by de-designating the building and removing it from the National Register on January 16, 2009.
- Six batches of information issues identified here have so far been reported to the National Register. The first batch was 20 items submitted by email, an edited version of the working page shown at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues Batch report No. 1. I'll report here how it goes. So far NR acknowledged receipt and asked a question or two, but has not reported making any changes to NRIS yet. doncram (talk) 21:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- The NR_RT reports has reviewed those 20, has submitted fixes to be input into NRIS for 19 of them. I note which those are, below. While the changes will be input into NRIS shortly, the NRIS database is only republished a few times per year, so it is not yet known when the fixes will be apparent on-line. They prefer to get error reports batched by state, to facilitate checking with the state in cases needing that. I'll submit more batches by state. doncram (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've now submitted six batches
- batch01: 20 name issues
- batch02: 45 coordinates issues
- batch03: 73 name issues
- batch04: 29 town issues
- batch05: 19 county issues
- batch06: 26 street address issues
- I think that totals to 214 items reported. doncram (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Update, April 27, 2009: The National Register has verified 66 corrections needed, based on our reports, and is implementing those. Further corrections being researched. Their internal Word document covering the 66 is in tabular format, with column headings "State", "RefNo", "Property name", "Typo", "Correction", and another column for their use. It would probably be most helpful if we presented new batches in that tabular format. doncram (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Update: on September 3, I received an update that they are addressing batch04 now, and hope to do another batch before the end of this month. It is slow going, but I believe they appreciate our efforts to identify corrections and will eventually respond to all that we submit. doncram (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Batch07 to address issues accumulated for state of Ohio alone, of all types of issues noted for NRHP listings in the state. See wp:NRIS info issues OH, the split-out Ohio-only issues subpage. doncram (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Reports organized by state
[edit]Alabama
[edit]Alaska
[edit]Alaska: reference numbers and documents
[edit]- The Sts. Sergius and Herman of Valaam Church, in English Bay, Alaska, and the Sts. Sergius and Herman of Valaam Chapel, in Ouzinkie, Alaska, differ in name only by "Church" vs. "Chapel". They were both NRHP-listed in 1980 as part of the Russian Orthodox Church Buildings and Sites Thematic Resources study. NRIS gives reference numbers 80004581 and 80004587 for the two, and describes them briefly, but the NRHP nomination documents (which are just excerpts out of the longer thematic resources document) and the accompanying photo files are filed at URLs with opposite reference numbers. So either the NRIS reference numbers are reversed, or the documents and photo sets are miss-filed. See Saints Sergius and Herman of Valaam Church (AHRS SITE NO. SEL-018) and accompanying photo from c.1976, and see Saints Sergius and Herman of Valaam Chapel and accompanying photo. --doncram 01:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Alaska: property names
[edit]- Nativity of Holy Theolokos Church in Afognak, Alaska; the proper term is Theotokos. Nyttend (talk) 05:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:01
- Need to change from Theolokos to Theotokos. The need for correction is further clarified by the National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Russian Orthodox Church Buildings and Sites Thematic Resources document and the Nativity of Holy Theotokos Church (AHRS SITE NO. AFG-080) (continuation sheets from Thematic Resources document). --doncram 14:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
- Gakona Roadhouse in the Valdez-Cordova Census Area (Alaska) is listed as being in Gahona, Alaska; proper spelling is Gakona, Alaska. Nyttend (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:02
- Several properties in Alaska's North Slope Borough are listed as being in Wainright, Alaska: plainly intended to be Wainwright, Alaska. Nyttend (talk) 20:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- These must be the following 9 sites. doncram (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Aluakpak, Location unknown at this time (but coordinates given by NRIS?)70°24′39″N 159°51′18″W / 70.41083°N 159.85500°W, Wainright
- Anaktuuk, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Atanik, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Avalitkuk, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Ivishaat, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Kanitch, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Napanik, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Negilik Site, Address Restricted, Wainright
- Uyagaagruk, Address restricted, Wainright
- batch03:03-11
Alaska: street address issues
[edit]- Van Gilder Hotel (Seward, Kenai Peninsula Borough): Address in the NRIS is 307 Adams Street. It should be 308 Adams Street. --sanfranman59 (talk) 20:27, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Rika's Landing Roadhouse in Big Delta is listed at mile 252 on the Richardson Highway; this state webpage lists it at mile 274.5. Nyttend (talk) 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Alaska: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Rose Building (Fairbanks, Alaska), NRHP-listed in 1992, reported by editor RadioKAOS to have been demolished, and that the address no longer exists even due to moving of another road. Source cited about the demolition: "Historic Rose building disappears from corner" was published in the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner on September 13, 1998 on page B1. --doncram 22:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Alaska: misclassified
[edit]- A number of sites in Katmai National Park and Preserve are incorrectly described in NRIS as being in Dillingham Census Area, Alaska. No part of the park is in Dillingham; the listings should be in Kodiak Island Borough, Alaska, Bristol Bay Borough, Alaska, Kenai Peninsula Borough, Alaska, or Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska. (Note that some of these sites list the "nearest city" as King Salmon, Alaska, which is in Bristol Bay Borough just outside the western park boundary. Magic♪piano 12:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Arizona
[edit]Arkansas
[edit]California
[edit]Colorado
[edit]Connecticut
[edit]Delaware
[edit]Delaware: missing listing
[edit]- McColley's Chapel (Ref #11000859, see here) does not appear in Focus search. Mangoe (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Delaware: property names
[edit]- Obadiah Dingee House in Wilmington, Delaware should be Obidiah Dingee House, per its HABS listing and the Historical Society of Delaware. Nyttend (talk) 13:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:18
- Bellvue Range Rear Light Station in Wilmington is actually Bellevue Range Rear Light Station; see this NPS page. Nyttend (talk) 19:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:19
- "Liston Ranger Rear Light Station" includes a typo. "Ranger" is a typo, should be "Range" instead. Note the similarly named NRHP-listed "Liston Range Front Lighthouse" has the word correctly spelled. See Liston Range Rear Light and Liston Range Front Light wikipedia articles. --doncram 19:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Delaware: address issues
[edit]- Mount Pleasant Methodist Episcopal Church and Parsonage in Wilmington is listed at "1009 Philadephia Pike": correct the spelling of "Philadelphia". Nyttend (talk) 15:02, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Achmester is said to be on "Route 429 one mile east of Route 896". Delaware seems to have vastly reduced the use of state route numbers of late, and it's possible the reference to Route 896 was always wrong (though it might have been double-posted with US 301 at one time). At any rate the house is now on Marl Pit Road, east of US 301. Mangoe (talk) 13:33, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
Delaware: county location issues
[edit]- Mount Pleasant (Smyrna) and Savin-Wilson House are listed in the NRIS database as in New Castle County. Based on the location descriptions and the geocode coords, both are in Kent County. --sanfranman59 (talk) 05:08, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Delaware: architect, builder, engineer issues
[edit]- Gibraltar (Wilmington, Delware), at 250 Pennsylvania Ave., Wilmington, Delaware is NRHP-listed with NRIS mention of architects
Albert Ely Ives and "DeArmond, Asmead and Bickley". The latter is correctly named DeArmond, Ashmead and Bickley, with correct "Ashmead" rather than "Asmead". The NRIS entry is based on typo in the NRHP nomination document (https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/98001098_text) that gives incorrect spelling in one place but gives correct spelling elsewhere. Correct spelling confirmed by sources of the wikipedia article on the architectural firm. --doncram 03:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Florida
[edit]Florida: county names
[edit]Entries with "Dade" as county name, are now in "Miami-Dade" county. So a county name code needs to be changed.
Florida: property names
[edit]- Aiport Clear Zone Archeological Site in Volusia County: correct "Aiport" to "Airport". Nyttend (talk) 13:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Lake Wales Historic Residental District: correct "Residental" to "Residential". Nyttend (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thomas House in Sarasota is listed as "Thoms House". TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:14, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Florida: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Ormond Hotel, Ormond Beach, Florida. Lvklock (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Brelsford House in Palm Beach, destroyed in August 1975 per its HABS data page. Nyttend (talk) 19:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Mott Willis Store, Charlotte Harbor
- Dixie Court Hotel, West Palm Beach
- Bingham-Blossom House, Palm Beach
Ebyabe (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2010 (UTC) - Palm Beach Winter Club, North Palm Beach Ebyabe (talk) 21:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Algonquin Apartments, Miami
- Priscilla Apartments, Miami
- J & S Building, Miami
- Hibiscus Apartments, West Palm Beach
Ebyabe (talk) 18:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Florida: address issues
[edit]- Rosemere Historic District in Orlando is listed as being "Roughly by E. Harvard St., N. Orange Ave., Cornell Ave. & E. Vanderbilt St." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly". Nyttend (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- North Shore Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by 87th St., Collins Ave., 73rd., and Hawthorne Ave." — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly". Nyttend (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Normandy Isles Historic District in Miami Beach is listed as being "Roughly by Normandy Shores Golf Course, Indian Creek, Biscayne Bay, Rue Versailles, 71st., Rue Notre Dame" — need to add "bounded" after "Roughly". Nyttend (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Dr. Price House in Live Oak; The address is listed as being at 702 Pine Avenue, but the given coordinates mark it as being at 710-712 Park Street. ----DanTD 15:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
- Dickinson Memorial Library and Park in Orange City; The given coordinates are off the northern coast of St. Augustine in the Atlantic Ocean. I wonder how many other sites have coordinates claiming they're in the water. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 22:13, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
- Old Deerfield School. NRIS lists 323 NE 2nd St, but actual address (including on the nomination form) is 232 NE 2nd St. kennethaw88 • talk 19:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Homestead Public School-Neva King Cooper School. NRIS lists 520 NW 1st Street, but the correct address is 520 NW 1st Avenue (both streets exist, so there is potential confusion). However, the current school uses the address 151 NW 5th Street. kennethaw88 • talk 23:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Georgia
[edit]Hawaii
[edit]Idaho
[edit]Idaho: property names
[edit]- JEAN (steamboat) is listed in Lewistown, Idaho: should be Lewiston, Idaho. Nyttend (talk) 12:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Andrew and Johanna M. Beckman Farm is listed in Idaho, Idaho: should be Idaho Falls, Idaho. Nyttend (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Vinther and Nelson Cabin near Coolin is listed as being on "Eight Mile Island"; per the GNIS, the correct name is Eightmile Island Nyttend (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Krassel Ranger Station is listed "along the South Fork of the Salmon River, 11 miles west of Yellowpine, in the Payette National Forest", with an address of Yellowpine, Idaho; proper name is Yellow Pine, Idaho. Nyttend (talk) 12:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- South Boise Historic Mining District is listed in Rocky Bar and, Idaho; the NRIS-provided profile lists it as "Rocky Bar vicinity". Nyttend (talk) 13:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Two listings Darrah House and Water Tank House and Ben Darrah Water Tank and Well House are similar but distinct, however the documentation is mixed up. Both are near Shoshone, Idaho. The photos overlap? The numbers/documents are reversed? Compare:
- 83002364: "Idaho State Historical Society Inventory Sheet for Group Nominations: Ben Darrah Water Tank and Well House". National Park Service. Retrieved January 23, 2017. with photo from 1981
- 83002365: "Idaho State Historical Society Inventory Sheet for Group Nominations: Darrah House and Water Tank House". National Park Service. Retrieved January 23, 2017. with two photos from 1981
- The H. Orton Wiley House is incorrectly listed in NRIS as Orton H. Wiley House. Refnum = 86002163. NRHP nomination is clear that it is associated with H. Orton Wiley. --doncram 03:37, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- The Jacob Tueller Jr. House (#82000314) and Jacob Tueller Sr. House (#82000315) are incorrectly listed in 2010 NRIS as "Jacob Tueller Jr." and "Jacob Tueller Sr.". --doncram 22:15, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Idaho: address restriction
[edit]- The Lochsa Historical Ranger Station is located on a highway, the Lewis and Clark Highway. It is open as a museum. In 2010 version of NRIS, it is address restricted. Since its location is public, the location should no longer be regarded as "address restricted". --doncram 16:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Idaho: addresses
[edit]- Mountain Home Carnegie Library (refnum=78001061) is incorrectly listed in NRIS version 2013a as being at 180 S. 33rd St., East, in Mountain Home, Idaho. Per Google maps and per its NRHP registration document is it located 180 S. 3rd East.--Doncram (talk) 15:01, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Idaho: dates
[edit]- The W.S. Kohl Barn was built in c. 1917, not in 1910. The Marian Posey-Ploss (July 8, 1983). "Idaho State Historical Society Inventory Sheet: W.S. Kohl Barn". National Park Service. Retrieved January 11, 2017. does mention 1910 in passing, as the 1910s were when the probable stonemasons were active, but the 1917 or soon thereafter date is set by mention of 1917 mortgage taken by farmer W. S. Kohl. This relates to Lava Rock Structures in South Central Idaho TR.
Idaho: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Jacob Spori Building was destroyed by a fire in 2000. Ntsimp (talk) 13:53, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Challis Cold Storage and Challis High School were both destroyed by the 1983 Borah Peak earthquake. Ntsimp (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Buster Meat Market, which was located at about 250 Main Ave in Challis, no longer existed by 2008, per note at National Register of Historic Places listings in Custer County, Idaho. It was a one-story stone building like Challis Cold Storage (located at about 300 Main Ave), and I wonder if it was destroyed in the same earthquake, or demolished soon after. The Challis Cold Storage collapse killed two children, apparently, and this might have posed similar danger. --doncram 14:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- Fry's Trading Post, NRHP-listed in 1984 with reference number 84001104, was destroyed by fire not long after ("burned to the ground").( Boundary County (July 21, 2008), Boundary County Comprehensive Plan, sec. 7.3.2, archived from the original on March 17, 2015, retrieved May 22, 2017. )
- Coeur d'Alene Mission of the Sacred Heart was destroyed by fire in 2011, NRHP reference 75000623, per "Historic school building burns in DeSmet", Thu., Feb. 3, 2011. --doncram 20:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
- Coughanour Apartment Block in Payette, Idaho, refnum=78001092, was demolished in 1985 and no longer exists, per "Payette County Buildings Listed On The National Register of Historic Places". Payette County IDGenWeb Project. Retrieved October 10, 2017.. --doncram 02:46, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Lewis Barn (Paris, Idaho) appears to have been demolished by 2017, perhaps by 2008. The Lewis Barn was listed November 18, 1982.(#82000282) 42°13′55″N 111°24′21″W / 42.231992°N 111.405969°W >By 2017 Google satellite view and Bing birdseye view imagery both accessed October 16, 2017, it appears that the barn is gone. The 42.231992, 111.405969 coordinates provided here point to an area directly behind the Lewis Bungalow which appears, in satellite view, to be the former location of a building. July 2008 Google streetview, accessed October 16, 2017, shows no barn structure, although view to barn in rear would be partially obscured. "Idaho State Historical Society Inventory: Lewis Barn". National Park Service. 1982. Retrieved October 16, 2017. With photo from 1979. --doncram 16:00, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- First Lapwai Bank, Lapwai, ID. "The building no longer exists." --Doncram (talk) 17:02, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- The Alvin Eskelton Barn, located northwest of Richfield, Idaho in Lincoln County, Idaho, built around 1918, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1983, appears to have been destroyed, per Google and Bing satellite views in 2019. --Doncram (talk) 13:55, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Methodist Episcopal Church (Emmett, Idaho), refnum = 80001326, built in 1906. It has also been known as the United Methodist Church. It was located at 132 S. Washington Ave, at 1st St., in Emmett. But the building no longer exists; a modern True Value Hardware store is now at that address. (per Google Streetview, imagery captured August 2018, accessed November 2019.). --Doncram (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Priestly's Hydraulic Ram, refnum 75000631, in Idaho. As explained in its article, this apparently no longer exists:
Idaho Power Company senior archaeologist Shane Baker said: "It may have been taken apart and salvaged for parts. Or moved somewhere else, or perhaps abandoned in place. To my knowledge, no one has ever found any remnants of the facility. The exact location for the ram is unknown, and it may be possible that the first hydroelectric plant built at Thousand Springs in 1912 may have been built over top of the location of the old ram." ( Virginia Hutchins; Tetona Dunlap (June 26, 2016). "Expert's guide to the Hagerman reach: part 1". MagicValley.Com. )
- Also, it's exact original location is not known, though it was pretty surely in the area of Thousand Springs State Park. So somewhere around 42°44′35″N 114°50′28″W / 42.743°N 114.841°W, as informedly estimated by User:MB. However the coordinates that were in NRIS2013a version are really far off, like 30 miles off to the east: 42°44′40″N 114°15′25″W / 42.74444°N 114.25694°W.
- --Doncram (talk) 04:23, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- James Henry and Ida Owen Mays House, reportedly at 42°39′56″N 114°41′46″W / 42.665556°N 114.696111°W, appears not to exist any longer, as Google satellite and Bing aerial maps imagery in 2022 shows no house at its location. House documented at Linda Norton-Keithley (January 19, 1993). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: James Henry and Ida Owen Mays House". National Park Service. Retrieved February 15, 2022. With accompanying three photos from 1992. --Doncram (talk) 00:09, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Idaho: county location issues
[edit]- McCall District Administrative Site is listed in the NRIS database as in Payette County. McCall and the location described in the listing are in Valley County. --sanfranman59 (talk) 07:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Idaho: architect, builder, engineer issues
[edit]- All seven NRIS entries for George H. Pegram tied to the https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/64500195_text, the MPS for "Pegram Truss Railroad Bridges of Idaho" have misspelling as "George H. Pregram" instead. Typo: Pregram; Correction: Pegram. These are:
- Cold Springs Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Big Wood R. 0.5 mi. S of jct. of US 93 abd ID 367 Ketchum, ID Pregram. George H.
- Conant Creek Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Conant Creek. 1 mi. S of jct. of Squirrel Rd. and Old Ashton-Victor RR spur tracks Grainville, ID Pregram. George H.
- Gimlet Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Big Wood R. 0.5 mi. S of jct. of US 93 and E. Fork Wood River Rd. Ketchum, ID Pregram. George H.
- Grace Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Bear R. 0.5 mi. NNW of jct. of ID 34 and Turner Rd. Grace, ID Pregram. George H.
- Ririe A Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Snake R. 1 mi. NNE of jct. of Heise Rd. and East Belt Branch RR tracks Ririe, ID Pregram. George H.
- Ririe B Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over the Snake R. flood channel, 0.5 mi. NNE of jct. of Heise Rd. and East Belt Branch RR tracks Ririe, ID Pregram. George H.
- St. Anthony Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, Over Henry's Fork. 0.5 mi. S of jct. of S. Parker Rd. and West Belt Branch RR tracks St. Anthony, ID Pregram. George H.
- Architects Shreeve & Madsen (or Shreve & Madsen???) are spelled with "Shreeve" in two Idaho listings:
- Brigham City Carnegie Library, 26 E. Forest St. Brigham City, UT: Shreeve & Madsen
- Hotel Paris, 7 Main St. Paris, ID: Shreeve & Madsen
- but spelled with "Shreve" in
- Browning Block, Main and Center Sts. Paris, ID Shreve & Madsen
- The "Shreeve" may possibly be Sullivan Arthur Shreeve, credited also with Mountain View Auto Court, 563 W. Twenty-fourth St. Ogden, UT: Shreeve,Sullivan Arthur. --doncram 14:29, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- Architect Benjamin Morgan Nisbet, of firm Nisbet & Paradice has a number of NRHP listings. His name is misspelled as "Nesbit" in NRIS2013a for Kimberly High School (Idaho) (where "Nesbit, B. Morgan" is given instead) and for Sterry Hall (where "Nesbit & Paradice") is given. --Doncram (talk) 07:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- There are more usages of Nisbet than Nesbit in NRIS2013a, and the usage of "Nesbit" in NRHP documents can be understood as accidental, where the nominator did not have familiarity with the architect. For example the Kimberly High School NRHP document is a case where the name is given once only in the "architect/builder" field in section 8, and not used otherwise; the NRHP document author did not show (and did not need to show) familiarity with this architect, so easily could get the spelling wrong. And same for the NRHP document for Sterry Hall. On the other hand, the NRHP document for Payettes Lakes Club, which provides biographical information and career overview for the person, consistently uses name "Nisbet" 11 times. "Nisbet" is used in at least 6 NRHP listings, including for example, NRHP document for Harrison Boulevard Historic District where it is used twice. It is clear to me that "Nisbet" is the correct spelling. --Doncram (talk) 00:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Idaho: architectural style
[edit]- Jose and Gertrude Anasola House is recorded in NRIS as having Colonial Revival style, but that is incorrect. Per its Idaho State Historical Society inventory document, it is a lava rock structure build for relatively poor Basque people that is mentioned to be "boxy" in a way vaguely reminiscent of Colonial Revival style appearing in wood frame houses of the wealthy non-Basque in the area. That is far from saying this is Colonial Revival! --doncram 15:25, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- B. S. Varian House of Weiser, Idaho is described in NRIS as being "Queen Anne" architectural style. However its photos show it is not and its documentation states it is Bungalow architecture instead. See "Idaho State Historical Society Inventory: B. S. Varian House". National Park Service. Retrieved September 6, 2017. and photos. --doncram 20:00, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- William and Nora Ream House, refnum 91000460, near Dingle, Idaho, and also known as Arcadia Farm , is a Queen Anne/Colonial Revival house. NRIS2010a incorrectly categorizes as Second Empire architecture, while there is no mention of that style in its NRHP nomination, and photos show no evidence of that style. To the contrary, it is notable as a very late example of a Queen Anne house in which significant Colonial Revival elements are included. see nomination Jennifer Eastman Attebery (September 13, 1990). "National Register of Historic Places registration: William and Nora Ream House / Arcadia Farm". National Park Service. Retrieved October 15, 2017. With two photos from 1990. --doncram 18:06, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Portia Club, in Payette, Idaho, with refnum = 10000159. It was designed by Fruitland, Idaho architect I.C. Whitley. NRIS 2013a reports architectural style= "Late 19th And 20th Century Revivals, Mission/spanish Revival" which are vague and/or do not apply. It is Spanish Colonial Revival. See extract from NRHP document ( "Payette County Buildings Listed On The National Register of Historic Places". Payette County IDGenWeb Project. Retrieved September 12, 2019. ). --Doncram (talk) 11:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Conant Creek Pegram Truss Railroad Bridge, near Grainville, Idaho, built in 1894, refnum = 97000756, has incorrect architecture description. It is described in NRIS2013a as a "Pregram through truss bridge", which is incorrect. It is NOT a through truss bridge. It could accurately be described as a Pregram truss bridge. The incorrect statement appears to be an NRIS data entry error. --Doncram (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Benjamin Watlington House, 206 W. Court St., Weiser, Idaho, refnum 91000458, is recorded in NRIS2013a as having "Second Empire" style, but the registration document does not mention the term, calling it "Queen Anne" instead. --Doncram (talk) 03:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Illinois
[edit]Illinois: listing status
[edit]- Was Belleville Historic District delisted? It was listed in 1976, that is what our article shows. But there is "Dr" code item in 1980 in NRIS2013a, see Talk:Belleville Historic District#Still listed?. --Doncram (talk) 04:41, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Illinois: property names
[edit]- In Shelby County, Chautauqua Auditorium is listed by NRIS as Chatauqua Auditorium, an obvious misspelling, since all local and state sources show it spelled correctly Chautauqua Auditorium. I created an article with the right name Chautauqua Auditorium (Shelbyville, Illinois), with a redirect from the misspelled name. I also moved the existing Chautauqua Auditorium article in order to create a disambiguation page. clariosophic (talk) 09:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's the Joliet YMCA, not the "Joilet YMCA", in Joliet, Illinois. --doncram (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- It's Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joliet, in Joliet, IL, not "Alternate Route 66, Wilmington to Joilet" in "Joilet", IL. Error in listing name and in town name, both should show "Joliet" rather than typo "Joilet". --doncram (talk) 04:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- The Berleman House in Edwardsville, IL, is listed in the NRIS as the "Berlemann House", which contradicts its nomination form. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 11:19, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- The Bailey-Rugg Building in Champaign is listed as the "Bailey-Rug Building". TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:11, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- The Dohrmann-Buckman House in River Grove is listed as the "Dorhmann-Buckman House". TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 00:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Illinois: demolished but still listed
[edit]- "The Stephenson County Courthouse that was listed on the NRHP isn't standing any longer, in fact it was replaced decades ago. The Register just missed it, Illinois' IHPA, the state preservation office, does not list it in its NRHP properties for Stephenson County....I can provide links above if needed but the photographic evidence compiled at Category:Soldiers' Monument (Freeport, Illinois) shows the location of the old courthouse and illustrates that it is no longer there. The current courthouse was built in the mid-1970s and per NRHP rules would be ineligible for listing, so there's no chance that is the building the NPS listing is referring to. The old courthouse was quite beautiful, I have seen photos, but it is, alas, gone forever." --Noted by IvoShandor at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)
- Chris Jensen Round Barn: "In addition, I am almost 100% positive the Chris Jensen Round Barn is no longer standing. If it is it is NOT at the location the NRHP lists. I used the location map included with the nomination materials in my search for it. I found every single other listed round barn in Stephenson County but could not find the Jensen Round Barn. There's a chance it's overgrown, or part of it is standing in its location. If anyone has any information to confirm my first-hand (original) research please note it here. For now I am going to leave it listed. The IHPA informed me that they are trying to alleviate some of the problems in the HAARGIS database which lists on the NRHP properties with links to their nomination materials, so maybe when those changes go online the updated list will reflect its loss. If it was delisted, the NPS would have documentation of that somewhere.--IvoShandor (talk) 07:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)" --Noted by IvoShandor at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Stephenson County, Illinois (exerpt of IvoShandor's comments copied here by doncram)
- Jewel Tea Company Building in Barrington, Lake County was torn down in Feb. 2005 according to a local newspaper article online (actually it said the entire facade was torn down, and that demolition continues, despite last minute efforts...) I visited the site today and will get photos of the empty lot. Smallbones (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Illinois: address issues
[edit]- Isadore H. Heller House, apparently actually located at 5132 S. Woodlawn Ave. in Chicago, is identified in NRIS as being at 5132 S. Woodland Ave. Typo: Woodland; Correction: Woodlawn, in address field. 41°48′5″N 87°35′35″W / 41.80139°N 87.59306°W Error implicit from a non-logged in user's edit to correct it in List of RHPs in Chicago. doncram (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- In Lake County, Lloyd Lewis House was shown in the Wikipedia NRHP list for Lake County (and therefore presumably is listed by NRIS) at "153 Little Street Mary". The correct street name (shown on Google Maps, among other sources) is "Little St. Mary's Road". "St." does not always equal "Street" in an address. I changed it. Jameslwoodward (talk) 11:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
- Bell Miller Apartments, 835 S. Second St., Springfield, IL. Springfield is spelled "Spingfield" in NRIS database. --sanfranman59 (talk) 06:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- James S. Thompson House, 807 North Street New Boston IL. In the database the address temporarily showed up as 408 E. Jefferson Street on 2/9/15. Also, the current address is listed at 804 North St, which needs to be changed as the address was changed by the state. (This was noticed at this AfD.) Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Illinois: county location issues
[edit]- Stone Arch Bridge, Danville, Illinois is listed in the NRIS as in Jersey County. It's in Vermilion County.[1] --sanfranman59 (talk) 21:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Illinois: architect, builder, engineer issues
[edit]- Five NRIS listings give incorrect architect name "Joseph F. Booten" when the correct spelling is "Joseph F. Booton", as documented in https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/64000178_text the corresponding MPS / TR document. Change from "Booten" to "Booton" in architect name for each of:
- Black Hawk Museum and Lodge, 1510 46th Ave. Rock Island, IL
- Giant City State Park Lodge and Cabins, RR #1 Makanda, IL
- Pere Marquette State Park Lodge and Cabins, Box 158 Grafton, IL
- Starved Rock Lodge and Cabins, Box 116, Utica LaSalle-Peru, IL
- White Pines State Park Lodge and Cabins, RR #1 Mount Morris, IL
- There are actually no correct spellings of Booton in NRIS; all are incorrect. --doncram 22:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Indiana
[edit]Iowa
[edit]Kansas
[edit]Kansas: property names
[edit]- The NRIS lists a "State Steet Bridge" in Erie, Kansas, acknowledging that it's on "State St. over Neosho River tributary" — plainly a simple typo for "State Street Bridge". Nyttend (talk) 04:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
- submitted in batch01:15, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- A "Convenanter Church" is listed in Stafford, Kansas, and the Reformed Presbyterian Church of Vernon (in Wisconsin) is listed, at least by http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com, with an alternate name of "Convenanter". In the past, "Covenanter" was a common term used by members of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America for themselves and their church, so "Convenanter" is plainly a typo. Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- submitted in batch01:16, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Federal Building-US Post Office (Independence, Kansas), in Independence, Kansas, listed in NRIS as being in "Indpendence". 69.229.242.152 (talk) 16:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:30
- The Grimes House in Riley County is listed in "Manhatten", not Manhattan. Nyttend (talk) 04:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- "Northup Theater" in Syracuse — according to a sign in front of the theater (picture), it's spelled "Northrup", with two "r"s. Nyttend (talk) 11:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comanche County Courthouse, refnum 02000395, is misspelled as "Comache County Courthouse" in NRIS 2010a version. It is listed per Focus, https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/fe4b1b91-769e-4f59-b9b1-86423459e5e3. --doncram 13:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Kansas: demolished but still listed
[edit]- The Rooks County Record Building at 501 Main Street in Stockton, Kansas, was no longer there as of September 14, 2014; see photos at Commons:Category:Rooks County Record building (Stockton, Kansas). The Google Maps satellite view on Sept. 15, 2014 showed a two-story building at the corner, so the demolition/removal may have occurred shortly before the photographer arrived. Ammodramus (talk) 19:33, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sand Creek Truss Leg Bedstead Bridge in Norton County has apparently been demolished or removed and replaced by a beam bridge. See photos taken in September 2014 at Commons:Category:Sand Creek bridge, County Road Y, Norton County, Kansas. According to uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2010. Ammodramus (talk) 03:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Walnut Creek Tributary Bridge (refnum 85001435) has apparently been replaced by a box culvert. See 2016 photo of culvert; no bridges or other crossings were seen in the vicinity. — Ammodramus (talk) 22:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Bridge No. 650-Federal Aid Highway System Bridge (refnum 08000612) in Barton County has been replaced by a concrete box culvert. See November 2017 photos showing replacement structure; see also Barton County Commissioners meeting minutes of September 19, 2016, accepting a bid for the bridge's replacement. — Ammodramus (talk) 19:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Kansas: town location issue
[edit]- Federal Building-US Post Office, in Indpendence KS, should be "Independence" not Indpendence. doncram (talk) 00:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- batch04:12
Kansas: street address
[edit]- J.A. Shoemaker House in Topeka, KS is listed at 1434 SW. Pass Ave. It should be 1434 SW. Plass Ave.[2] --sanfranman59 (talk) 01:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch06:09
- Cato District No. 4 School in rural Crawford County, Kansas is listed at 720th Avenue and 200th Street in Cato: these two roads don't meet. Check Google Maps to follow Highway 69 north from Pittsburg until it meets 720th, and you'll see that 720th Avenue doesn't exist between 180th and 210th Streets. On the other hand, the same address appears at this Kansas State Historical Society page, which includes a picture and a short description of the school. I wonder if it's perhaps shown on the Mapquest aerial photo map: go to this Mapquest page, scroll southward along 200th a couple of miles after it bends eastward and then southward again; the site I'm wondering about is the buildings just south of point where it turns directly southward again, where you can see a few buildings on both sides of the road (almost where the two roads would meet if they continued). Elkman doesn't list the school in the county table generator, while plugging the ID number (06000771) into the infobox generator gives no coords, and the resulting page says "Note: This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The Wisconsin Historical Society has a copy of the 8 September 2006 listings here, which includes the school, but the official listings page doesn't have it. I'm rather confused; hopefully this explains the situation well. Nyttend (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Lipp Barn, 17054 130th Ave., Collyer, KS: Address in the NRIS is 17054 103rd Ave. Per the NRHP Registration Form, it should be 130th Ave. --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Downtown Wellington Historic District, Roughly bounded by 10th St., 4th St., Jefferson Ave., and the alley behind the Washington Ave. facing buildings, Wellington, KS: Northern boundary in NRIS is 19th St. Per the NRHP Registration Form, it should be 10th St. --sanfranman59 (talk) 06:44, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
- Jewell County Jail: location is given on the nom form as "Northeast corner of Center and Madison". In fact, it's at the southwest corner of that intersection: see photo including street sign, noting direction of shadows on a photo taken close to noon. Ammodramus (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- Midland Hotel in Wilson, Ellsworth County: address is given on nom form as "414 26th Avenue". It should be "414 26th Street": see "Contact Us" at Midland Railroad Hotel website; ground-truthing confirms that in Wilson, streets are numbered while avenues are lettered, e.g. "Avenue E". Ammodramus (talk) 03:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Osborne Public Carnegie Library in Osborne County: address is given on nom form as "Third and Main". A more precise address is "307 W. Main Street": see photo, showing address above door; see also "Osborne County Health Services Directory", p. 19 (library is now Osborne Co. Genealogical & Historical Society). Ammodramus (talk) 03:20, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Downs Carnegie Library in Osborne County: address is given on nom form as "504 S. Morgan". The "S." is incorrect: address numbers in that part of Morgan increase northward. Several local sources, e.g. "Osborne County Health Services Director", p. 19, and "Solomon Valley Highway 24 Heritage Alliance: Library Locations", give the address as "504 Morgan". Ammodramus (talk) 03:34, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thornburg Barn (refnum 09000192), in Ness County, is described at the NRIS page as being "1.5 mi. W. of D Rd." According to the nom form, verified by ground-truthing, it's 0.5 miles west of D Rd. Ammodramus (talk) 15:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Atchison Post Office (refnum 72000484) in Atchison is listed as being at "621 Kansas St." It's actually 621 Kansas Ave. Ammodramus (talk) 17:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- McInteer Villa (refnum 75000707) in Atchison is listed as being at "1301 Kansas St."; it's actually 1301 Kansas Ave. Ammodramus (talk) 17:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
- First National Bank Building (Smith Center, Kansas) is located at 100 S. Main St., not at 100 N. Main St. as its NRHP nomination document and NRIS state. See it in Google maps. --Doncram (talk) 04:21, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Arthur Larkin House near Ellsworth, Kansas is identified in NRIS and its 1974 NRHP documentation as being "0.25 miles south of Ellsworth off K-45. K-45 no longer exists as a numbered highway; the house's address is now 1126 Hwy 14, Ellsworth, KS 67439 (per Google Maps). --Doncram (talk) 16:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Kansas: existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
[edit]- East Riley Creek Bridge in Republic County, Kansas. The Elkman tool returns a note: "This property may not actually be listed on the National Register - listing code is DR". The property appears in the Weekly Listings for 1990; it was listed Jan 4, 1990, but appears in the weekly list for for May 11, 1990. There is no sign that it's been delisted: it appears in the NPS Focus website, under Republic County; it's listed on the Kansas Historical Society's Historic Places in Republic County page; and recent photographs show no sign of removal or significant degradation (see Commons:Category:East Riley Creek Bridge on Queen (Republic County, Kansas) for photos). --Ammodramus (talk) 14:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Kansas: architect/builder issues
[edit]- Comanche County Courthouse (Kansas), refnum 02000395, was designed by Routledge & Hertz. Architect misspelled in NRIS 2010a as "Routletge". (Note the name of the site was misspelled as "Comache County Courthouse" also, as noted above). --doncram 14:57, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Crawford County Courthouse (Girard, Kansas), 111 E. Forest, Courthouse Square, Girard, KS: Architects given in NRIS as "Tonini and Bramlet", but the firm's name is Tonini & Bramblet (with a second "b" in "Bramblet"). Correct spelling used in NRHP doc: Christy Davis (October 15, 2008). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Crawford County Courthouse / 037-2050-00037". National Park Service. Retrieved October 26, 2017. and in NRIS coverage of multiple Oklahoma courthouses built by the firm. --doncram 06:59, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- Fred G. McCune is NRIS-listed as architect of 2 buildings; Fred C. McCune is listed for 2 other buildings. One spelling is incorrect. --doncram 22:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
- S.S. Voigt, i.e. Samuel Siegfried Voigt (1885-1937), commonly known as S.S. Voigt, was an architect based in Wichita, Kansas, per Spencer, Brenda R. (February 11, 2013). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Belleville High School" (PDF). National Park Service. Retrieved November 19, 2017. He is listed as architect of several places. "S.S. Voight" is listed as architect of Wolf Hotel in Ellinwood, Kansas, which is a typo: drop the "h" in that listing. --doncram 22:35, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Kansas: other issues
[edit]- The photos for the Harper County Courthouse (Kansas) are actually the Harper County Courthouse (Oklahoma). kennethaw88 • talk 23:08, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Kentucky
[edit]demolished but still listed
[edit]- Johnson's Chapel AME Church appears to have been lost; a 2014 photo shows a new First Baptist Church was built on its site. --Doncram (talk) 17:44, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yatesville Covered Bridge (refnum 76000910) included in NRIS2013a no longer exists, per LandmarkHunter and per Google satellite view. --Doncram (talk) 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Big Sandy Milling Company (#88002045, included in NRIS2013a) no longer exists, per 2014 photo by Nyttend. --Doncram (talk) 22:23, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Adam Pence House, near Stanford, Kentucky, apparently at 37°28′10″N 84°37′57″W / 37.469516°N 84.632603°W, refnum=78001376.
- As currently stated in Adam Pence House article: By 2022, the house appears to have been demolished. Bing Maps aerial view shows the house, recognizable by its outline compared to sketch map in the NRHP document, labelled as 5310 Kentucky Highway 1247, at 37°28′10″N 84°37′57″W / 37.469516°N 84.632603°W. This is close to the coordinates (37°28′06″N 84°38′01″W / 37.46833°N 84.63361°W) provided with NRIS 2013 data, within usual variance of such vs. modern GPS mapping (by judgment of Wikipedia editors of NRHP articles). However Google Maps satellite view shows ruins at that site. (Bing Maps imagery, undated, and Google Maps imagery, undated, both copyrighted 2022, consulted May 19, 2022.) --Doncram (talk) 17:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Bird Octagonal Mule Barn, in Shelby County, KY appears to be gone, based on driveby + Google aerial view. --Doncram (talk) 22:08, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Bird's Nest (Shelby County, Kentucky) is gone, as documented by photos of site (plus Google aerial view. --Doncram (talk) 22:08, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- Audubon School, refnum 98001497, at 1400 Clay St. in Henderson, Kentucky, in Henderson County. Was standing in 2019 Google Streetview imagery, has been demolished by 2022 from satellite imagery. --Doncram (talk) 12:48, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- It was demolished in 2019: Jared Goffinet (July 24, 2019). "Demolition on old Henderson school continues". 14News WFIE. Includes 56 second film clip, showing demolition, with most of front facade shown around 15 second mark. --Doncram (talk) 04:49, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- John Cox House, in Hopkins County, Kentucky. An i.p. editor stated the house has been torn down. See Talk:John Cox House for more info. --Doncram (talk) 05:16, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Kentucky: property names
[edit]- St. Mildred's Court-West Lexington Avenue Historic Distric t in Danville, Kentucky inexplicably has a space in the middle of the last word — i.e. "Distric t" not "District". Nyttend (talk) 22:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
- submitted in batch01:18. NRHP_RT reports that apparently the length of the property name is more than the NRIS system handles properly, so this may not be fixed, 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Battle of Sacremento Battlefield is listed in McLean County, Kentucky, although the community nearby is named Sacramento. Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:31
- The NRIS name Olmstead Park System should be Olmsted Park System since it is named after the landscape architect Frederick Law Olmsted. It is listed correctly at National Register of Historic Places listings in Jefferson County, Kentucky.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 21:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
- The full name of the racetrack Keeneland is not "Keeeneland--Keeneland Racetrack". From looking at the nom formhttps://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NHLS/86003487_text, it appears the form was filled out incorrectly by putting the "common" name on the same line as the "historic" name. Niagara Don't give up the ship 00:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
- Moyers Building in Booneville, Kentucky, reference number 82001575, is incorrectly listed in NRIS2010a as "Moyers Buildings". It is just one building and is called "Moyers Building" (singular) in its NRHP Inventory Nomination: "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Moyers Building". National Park Service. August 1982. Retrieved 17 December 2017. With five photos from 1982. --Doncram (talk) 17:55, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- It should be National Tobacco Works Branch Stemmery (with "Works") not "National Tobacco Work Branch Stemmery" in NRIS2013a. It is part of the National Tobacco Works. As covered in NRHP document Hugh B. Foshee (August 9, 1979). "Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory/Nomination: National Tobacco Work Branch Stemmery / Hubbuch In Kentucky Service Center". National Park Service. Retrieved April 24, 2018. With accompanying photo. --Doncram (talk) 21:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Reed-Dossey House, refnum 86002866, was a home of the "Dossey" family (not "Dorsey"). NRIS2013a incorrectly lists as "Reed-Dorsey House", an apparent typo in NRIS data entry, relative to NRHP registration document which uses "Dossey". --Doncram (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- NRIS2013a records as "A. J. Aylor House" while the Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory records as J.M. Aylor House. Seems to be an NRIS data entry typo. Refnum = 88003275. Kenneth T. Gibbs (September 1986). "Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory: J.M. Aylor House". National Park Service. Retrieved May 11, 2018. With accompanying seven photos from 1986-88. --Doncram (talk) 20:50, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
- NRIS2013a records as "House Coleman", while it seems it should be "Coleman House", in Bedford, Kentucky, article now at Coleman House (Bedford, Kentucky) (with redirect from House Coleman), refnum 83002880. Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory at https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/83002880. This is distinct from William L. Coleman House, also NRHP-listed in Bedford. --Doncram (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Marvin College Boys Dormitory and President's House is listed in NRIS2013a as "Marvin College Boys Dormitory". It is two contributing buildings, and the NRHP nomination form is clearly about both of them. --Doncram (talk) 20:20, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Monsieur Giron's Confectionery is spelled correctly with "confectionery" in its NRHP application, but a typo was introduced in NRIS where it is listed as "Monsieur Giron's Confectionary". Noted by User:Tamanoeconomico who created the article. --Doncram (talk) 04:52, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- NRIS has it recorded garbled up as something like "James–Trotter Lindsay, William, House" while it needs to be James Lindsay--William Trotter House. See the NRHP document, a Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory form at here. --Doncram (talk) 23:24, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Kentucky: community name issues
[edit]- Salts Cave Archeological Site is listed in Mundfordville; correct to Munfordville. Nyttend (talk) 01:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Kentucky: built/significance date issues
[edit]- John C. Brown House, refnum 88002856, in Shelby County, Kentucky is listed as being "antebellum vernacular" (meaning pre-Civil War) yet built in 1937; correct to 1837, per its NRHP/KY document at https://catalog.archives.gov/id/123848411. --Doncram (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Kentucky: county location issue
[edit]- The Louisville Municipal Bridge, Pylons and Administration Building, which spans the Ohio River at Louisville, Kentucky, is listed in Louisville but also in Clark County — in the middle of the countryside east of Lexington, about 100 miles from Louisville, and probably about 50 miles from the nearest part of the Ohio River. Nyttend (talk) 00:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch05:05
Kentucky: location issues
[edit]- Louisville Municipal Bridge, Pylons and Administration Building, Spans Ohio River between Louisville, KY and Jeffersonville, IN: Listed in the NRIS database as in Louisville, KY (Jefferson County) and Clark County, KY. It should be Clark County, IN which is on the other side of the Ohio River from Louisville. Clark County, KY is about 100 miles to the east. --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Central Kentucky Blue Grass Seed Co., at 321 Henry St., Lexington, Kentucky, was listed August 03, 2005 and has refnum = 0500079. It doesn't appear in Elkman's county-list-table generator for Fayette County, KY. Since it is in Lexington, which is in (and the same as) Fayette County, it seems the NRIS county identifier for it must be off. Don't know what it indicates. The Elkman NRHP infobox output does not include county. doncram (talk) 21:04, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- Holy Rosary Church (Manton, Kentucky) is listed in NRIS as having nearest_city = Springfield. It should show Manton.Washington County MRA, refnum = 88003409. --doncram (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
Kentucky: address restricted unnecessarily, doc should be made available
[edit]- Raccoon John Smith House, for which NARA says doc is Fully restricted, but it is on a public street and the address is known. Doc Not available at NPS. Is there any reason why the documentation of why this is NRHP-listed should not be publicly available? --Doncram (talk) 00:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Kentucky: address issues
[edit]- Erlanger Proper Subdivision Historic District is listed as being "Roughly bounded by by Hulbert, Division, Crescent, Dixie, and Graves." Correct the "by by" error, and remove the unnecessary period from the end of the description. Nyttend (talk) 22:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
- Jewish Hospital Complex is listed at 236 E. Kennedy St., but there is no E. Kennedy St. in Louisville. The geocode coordinates in the NRIS database correspond to 236 E. Kentucky St. --sanfranman59 (talk) 20:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- J. Hawkins Hart House is listed at "630 St." in NRIS2013a; its actual street address is 630 Center St., per its NRHP document. --Doncram (talk) 04:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Kentucky:architects and builders
[edit]- National Tobacco Works Branch Stemmery was designed in fact by D.X. Murphy & Brothers, not by "D.X. Murph & Sons" per NRIS2013a. The "D.X. Murphy and Brothers" or "D.X. Murphy and Bros." phrase occurs elsewhere, perhaps other NRHP-listed places. As covered in NRHP document Hugh B. Foshee (August 9, 1979). "Kentucky Historic Resources Inventory/Nomination: National Tobacco Work Branch Stemmery / Hubbuch In Kentucky Service Center". National Park Service. Retrieved April 24, 2018. With accompanying photo. --Doncram (talk) 21:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Louisiana
[edit]Maine
[edit]Maryland
[edit]Maryland: property names
[edit]- Churchill Threatre-Community Building in Queen Anne's County — need to change "Threatre" to "Theatre", i.e. Churchill Theatre-Community Building. Nyttend (talk) 03:06, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Maryland: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Avondale Mill in Laurel, Maryland, is gone, per User:Pubdog. doncram (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Maryland: county location issue
[edit]- The Takoma Park Historic District is now fully within the boundaries of Montgomery County, Maryland, following Takoma Park, Maryland boundary changes in 1997. It is listed in NRIS also or only in Prince George's County, Maryland. Noted by User:Pubdog in National Register of Historic Places listings in Montgomery County, Maryland. doncram (talk) 16:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
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Maryland: town location issues
[edit]- All Saints' Church (Sunderland, Maryland) is shown on NRHP as located in Lower Marlboro, Maryland, but I know that it's in Sunderland from personal experience as well as the church's website, the Maryland Historical Trust's website [3], HABS, etc. I've moved the artcle from All Saints' Church (Lower Marlboro, Maryland) to All Saints' Church (Sunderland, Maryland). clariosophic (talk) 01:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Massachusetts
[edit]Michigan
[edit]Minnesota
[edit]Mississippi
[edit]Missouri
[edit]Montana
[edit]Montana: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Miles City Steam Laundry, reported demolished in 2011. This 2014 blog mentions it having been there in 1984, and since then having been demolished. --doncram 13:06, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Montana listings missing?
[edit]- Bad Route Creek Bridge and other bridges announced on a 2011 weekly listings seem not to be in NRIS? --doncram 15:48, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Montana: property names
[edit]- Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin, refnum 88003437, in Ravalli County is listed in NRIS2013a as "Lost Horse Fireman's Cabin (24RA197)". The NRHP nomination document shows the number should be an alternate name, not part of the actual main name.--Doncram (talk) 22:50, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sanders Gynmasium and Community Hall in Treasure County: clearly should be Sanders Gymnasium and Community Hall. Nyttend (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Lavina State Bank is listed in lavina, Montana: need to capitalise "Lavina". Nyttend (talk) 23:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Morgan-Case Homestead is listed in Phillipsburg, Montana; correct spelling is Philipsburg. Nyttend (talk) 23:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- DeBorgia Schoolhouse is listed in DeBorgia, Montana, along "Thompson Falls DeBorgia Rd." — the correct spelling is De Borgia, Montana, so all instances of "DeBorgia" need to be changed. Nyttend (talk) 00:56, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- A Methodist Episcopal Church is listed in Third Forks, but both the name and the coords identify it as being in Three Forks. Nyttend (talk) 02:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Montana Veterans and Pioneers Memoiral Building in Helena: change to "___Memorial___" Nyttend (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ferris-Hermsmeyer-Fenton Ranch (as titled in NRHP registration document) is listed in NRIS2013a as "Ferris-Hermsmeyer-Fenton".--Doncram (talk) 06:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Montana: town location issue
[edit]- Bearcreek Bank, Main and Second Sts.
45°9′40″N 109°9′30″W / 45.16111°N 109.15833°W, in Bearcreek, Montana, is listed in NRIS as being in "Beacreek", while it seems it should be "Bearcreek". doncram (talk) 18:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Rialto Theater in Deer Lodge, Montana is listed in NRIS as being in "Dear Lodge". Other listings have town spelled correctly with Deer not Dear. doncram (talk) 03:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Eureka Community Hall - looks like the wrong westerly coordinate. 116 degrees puts it barely in the county / state in the middle of a forest and not reachable by roads. The community of Eureka, Montana is at 115 degrees, putting the community center in the edge of the community. Royalbroil 03:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Montana: listed area
[edit]- For Superior School (Superior, Montana) the correct listed area is 2 acres (0.81 ha), not 300 acres (120 ha). NRIS datum is incorrectly entered from NRHP document, Kim Morrison, Historian; Liz Gupton (April 1996). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Superior School / Lower Elementary Grade School". National Park Service. Retrieved February 11, 2018. With six photos from 1996. --Doncram (talk) 23:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Montana: architecture
[edit]The Hester E. Suydam Boarding House, at 209 W. River St. in Fromberg, Montana, built in 1907 is recorded in NRIS as having architecture: Four Square. That is consistent with a note in its registration document, but the building does not appear to be American Four Square at all. It is not square. It does not have four-way or any type of symmetry. It does have dormer windows, which is common in the style, but it has two on one side and one on another, as can be seen in nomination photos. The text of the document does not mention "Four Square", it only appears as a database-type entry for "Architectural Classification" as "Other: One-and-one-half story Four Square" (which appears to be wrong). Also the text description calls it a two-story building with a one-and-a-half-story extension, also inconsistent there. So, the Wikipedia article now carries no mention of "Four Square"; it should be dropped from NRIS. --Doncram (talk) 20:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Nebraska
[edit]Nebraska: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Royal Highlanders Building in Aurora, Nebraska was destroyed by fire on July 10, 2008. Ammodramus (talk) 15:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Kathleen Hearn Building in Aurora, Nebraska was demolished in 1991. Ammodramus (talk) 17:36, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Pospeshil Theater in Bloomfield, Nebraska was destroyed by fire prior to 2000. Ammodramus (talk) 05:32, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- Bridge (Royal, Nebraska) in Antelope County has apparently been removed. A corrugated-metal culvert now carries the stream under the road; there is no sign of a kingpost pony truss bridge in the vicinity. See photos at Commons:Category:Culvert on 522 Ave (Antelope County, Nebraska). The site is not listed on the Nebraska State Historical Society website. Ammodramus (talk) 03:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Stone Building (Kimball, Nebraska) in Kimball County was destroyed by fire on January 2, 2010. See story from Scottsbluff Star-Herald, 2010-01-03.
- Brownson Viaduct in Cheyenne County, Nebraska has apparently been removed and replaced by a modern concrete beam bridge. See photos at Commons:Category:Brownson, Nebraska viaduct. There is no sign of a timber stringer bridge in the vicinity. Ammodramus (talk) 04:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- Trinity Seminary Building in Blair, Washington County, Nebraska was destroyed by fire in 1988: see Washington County Historical Association website. Ammodramus (talk) 15:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bow Valley Mills in Cedar County, Nebraska. The mill building has apparently been demolished or removed. A concrete flume across the road is still visible. See photos at Commons:Category:Bow Valley Mills. Ammodramus (talk) 03:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Main Street Bridge (Elkhorn, Nebraska) in Douglas County, Nebraska, has apparently been replaced by a concrete slab bridge. See photos at Commons:Category:Main Street Bridge (Elkhorn, Nebraska). According to the Elkman tool, this was a steel stringer bridge built in 1915. The uglybridges.com website states that the current bridge was built in 2000. The bridge does not appear on the Nebraska State Historical Society's list of NRHP sites in Douglas County. Ammodramus (talk) 02:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- Monmouth Park School in Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, was demolished July 27, 1995. See "Rescue Effort Fails; Historic School Razed", Omaha World-Herald, 1995-07-29, p. 54.
- Beal Slough Bridge in Lancaster County was replaced ca. 2004. January 2012 photos, available at Commons:Category:Beal Slough Pioneers Blvd bridge (Lincoln, Nebraska) show a bridge of recent date. The Lancaster County Board of Commissioners voted to replace the bridge on April 8, 2004 (see minutes). The bridge is not listed on the Nebraska State Historical Society's "Nebraska National Register Sites in Lancaster County" page. A personal communication from Audrey Mohr at the NSHS confirmed that the bridge had been removed. Ammodramus (talk) 17:31, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
- Stewart Bridge in Nuckolls County, Nebraska, was removed ca. 2010 and replaced with driveway tubes. See April 19, 2010 Proceedings of the Nuckolls County Board of Commissioners, and this photo of the present crossing. Ammodramus (talk) 04:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Olive Branch Bridge in Lancaster County is no longer extant. 2012 photos, available at Commons:Category:Stagecoach Road bridge site (Lancaster County, Nebraska), show only the remains of abutments. Ammodramus (talk) 02:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- The Algernon S. Paddock House in Beatrice, Gage County, Nebraska, is no longer extant. According to a personal communication from Audrey Mohr at the Nebraska State Historical Society, it was "demolished in 1994 and offically removed from the National Register in 2005". However, it still appears at the Focus site. Ammodramus (talk) 17:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Little Nemaha River Bridge northwest of Dunbar, Nebraska (ref no. 97000720) has apparently been removed and replaced with culverts: see photos at Commons:Category:Little Nemaha River bridge, H Rd, Otoe County, Nebraska. The bridge does not appear on the Nebraska State Historical Society's list of "Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County". Ammodramus (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Big Papilion Creek Bridge in Sarpy County, Nebraska has apparently been removed and replaced. The nom form describes and depicts a steel pony truss bridge. The current bridge on the site is a concrete beam bridge: see photo at Commons. According to uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2000. Ammodramus (talk) 13:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Adamson Bridge in Cherry County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed and replaced. The current Nebraska Highway 97 crossing is a concrete beam bridge: see photo at Commons. According to uglybridges.com, it was built in 1994. Google's satellite photo shows no other bridge in the vicinity; it appears that there may once have been a bridge about 1000 ft upstream from the current bridge. The Adamson Bridge does not appear on the Nebraska State Historical Society's list of "Nebraska National Register Sites in Cherry County". Ammodramus (talk) 19:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- The buildings of the Philip and Addie Ellis Eberhardt Farmstead in Fillmore County, Nebraska, have apparently been removed. Photographs of the quarter-section specified in the nom form are at Commons:Philip and Addie Ellis Eberhardt Farmstead; these show only a field, with no buildings. The site is no longer listed at the Nebraska State Historical Society's "Nebraska National Register Sites in Fillmore County" page. Ammodramus (talk) 17:36, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- Bridge (refnum 92000761) in Gage County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. The bridge is described as crossing Sicily Creek, and the description and photos indicate a pony truss; both the UTM coordinates and the township-range-section information in the nominating form place it on SW 45th Rd. The bridge that presently carries SW 45th across Sicily Creek is a beam bridge: see photos at Commons:Category:Sicily Creek SW 45th Rd bridges (Gage County, Nebraska). According to uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 2003. Ammodramus (talk) 19:05, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- Wyoming Bridge in Otoe County, Nebraska is apparently no longer extant. UTM coordinates and township-range-section description in nominating form concur in placing it on county road 60. The current crossing of Wyoming Creek on CR60 is a beam bridge; the uglybridges.com website gives its date as 2003. Photos of the current bridge are at Commons:Category:Wyoming Creek bridge, CR 60, Otoe County, Nebraska. In photographing the current bridge in June 2013, the photographer looked up- and downstream from it, and saw no sign of an older bridge, nor any indication that the road once crossed at another point nearby on the creek. The bridge is not listed at the Nebraska State Historical Society's "Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage; a Wayback Machine check indicated that it was listed on the page as of June 1, 2002, suggesting that it was deliberately removed and not accidentally omitted. Ammodramus (talk) 14:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- McCartney School District 17 in Otoe County, Nebraska, has apparently been removed or demolished. The NRHP nominating form lists a single contributing building, a red brick schoolhouse, with no contributing objects or structures. June 2013 photos of the site, available at Commons:Category:McCartney School District 17 (Otoe County, Nebraska), show no such building; a basketball hoop and a pump visible in the photos are mentioned in the nom form, but not listed as contributing. A July 14, 2009 article in the Nebraska City News-Press recounts the Nebraska City School Board's decision to sell the property. Ammodramus (talk) 15:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ponca Creek Bridge (refnum 92000769) in Boyd County is apparently no longer extant. See photo of bridge currently at the crossing. According to uglybridges.com, the current bridge was built in 1994. When I visited the site in 2016, I couldn't see any signs of an older bridge up- or downstream from the current one. — Ammodramus (talk) 12:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- North Omaha Creek Bridge (refnum 92000727) in Thurston County, Nebraska, is apparently no longer extant. See November 2016 photo of the beam bridge under construction at the site. — Ammodramus (talk) 03:13, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Burwell Bridge, built in 1940, 24 feet wide, was replaced in 2007 by a bridge that is generally similar but is 44 feet wide, and photos in 2010 clearly differ from the NRHP photo. Uglybridges.com site pointed out by Ammodramus reports the 2007 info. --doncram 23:43, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Nebraska: property names
[edit]- Third Sarpy County Courthouse in Papillion, Nebraska is listed in "Papillon, Nebraska".
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- Farwell Archeological District and Rad Jan Kollar cis 101 Z. C. B. J., listed in DuBois, Nebraska rather than in Du Bois, Nebraska. Nyttend (talk) 22:37, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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- St. Mark's Episcopal Pro-Catherdral, located in Hastings, Nebraska (Adams County). Nyttend (talk) 12:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:51 Probably should be Cathedral, not Catherdral.
- Saint Martin's Catholic Church is listed in DeWeese and the Glenville School is listed in Glenville, both in Clay County, Nebraska. Correct spellings are Deweese and Glenvil. Nyttend (talk) 21:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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- In Monroe, Nebraska (Platte County), there's a First Welch Calvinistic Methodist Church and Cemetery listed: clearly Welsh. Nyttend (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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- For the Miller Hotel in Brown County, Nebraska, the list of other names includes "Luerhs Rooming House". This should almost certainly be "Luehrs": see photo. A Google search suggests that the name "Luehrs" occurs in the Long Pine, Nebraska area; "Luerhs" apparently does not.
- The H. P. Stutton House in McCook (Red Willow County, Nebraska) is misspelt; it should be "Sutton". This is the spelling that appears on the Nebraska State Historical Society website, at the McCook tourist-information website, and at a website promoting a book about the house. Ammodramus (talk) 17:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- The H.M.S. Spielman House in Tekamah (Burt County, Nebraska) has the initials in the wrong order. On the nomination form, the name is given at least four times as "H.S.M. Spielman", with no occurrences of "H.M.S." Ammodramus (talk) 11:49, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Relatedly, the article has been created at H.S.M. Spielman House. --doncram 22:58, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
- Riverside Park Dance Pavilion in Merrick County, Nebraska is misspelled "pavillion" in the NRIS database, as retrieved by the Elkman tool. It's spelled correctly on the nom form.
- Scheider's Opera House in Snyder in Dodge County, Nebraska, is misspelled; the correct spelling of the name is "Schneider's". It appears correctly in the nom form and on the Nebraska State Historical Society's National Register Sites in Dodge County page. Ammodramus (talk) 04:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Fontanelle Bank in Bellevue, Sarpy County, Nebraska is misspelled; the correct spelling of the name is "Fontenelle". The name is incorrectly spelled in its three occurrences on the nom form, but is spelled "Fontenelle" on a historical marker at the site, and at the Nebraska State Historical Society's "Nebraska National Register Sites in Sarpy County" webpage. Ammodramus (talk) 20:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Massow, Joachim--Schultz, Charles and Annie, House in Otoe County, Nebraska appears to be misspelled: it should be "Schutz" instead of "Schultz". The name is spelled "Schutz" at the Nebraska State Historical Society's "Nebraska National Register Sites in Otoe County" webpage, and throughout the nom form. The site doesn't appear at Focus, but it's spelled "Schultz" in the September 7, 2012 weekly list. Ammodramus (talk) 15:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
- W.F. Hitchcock House is correct as name, per the NRHP nomination document. It is listed as "W.F. Hitchcok House" in NRIS2013a. --Doncram (talk) 10:00, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Nebraska: address issues
[edit]- Columbus Izaak Walton League Lodge in Platte County is listed as being on Nebraska Highway 81, but it's actually U.S. Route 81. Nyttend (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Red Cloud Bridge in Webster County is listed as being on Nebraska Highway 281, but it's actually U.S. Route 281. Nyttend (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Starke Round Barn near Red Cloud is listed as being on U.S. Route 163, but it's actually U.S. Route 136. Nyttend (talk) 03:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Humphrey City Hall in Humphrey is listed as being at 407 S. 4th St. It's actually in the 100 block of S. 4th St. There's no address on the building. Ammodramus (talk) 17:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Cesko-narodni sin-Milligan Auditorium is listed at being at the corner of Main and Birch Sts. in Milligan. It's actually at the corner of Main and 6th. Ammodramus (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Columbia Hall (Dannebrog, Nebraska) in Howard County is listed as being at "Jct. of NE 58 and W. Roger Wetsch Ave." There are two issues here. First, the name of the avenue is misspelt: it should be "Roger Welsch Ave." Second, Roger Welsch Ave. is the name given to NE 58 in its passage through Dannebrog: so this "junction" is about a quarter-mile long. A better description would be "intersection of Roger Welsch Ave. and Mill St." Ammodramus (talk) 20:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Willow Creek Bridge in Pierce County, Nebraska is no longer on its original site. In 1994, it was moved to Gilman Park in Pierce, Nebraska. The new location is 42°12′2.08″N 97°31′13.53″W / 42.2005778°N 97.5204250°W Ammodramus (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- George Townsend House in Johnson County, Nebraska is listed as being at "61872 NE 136". It's actually on U.S. Highway 136.
- Miller Hotel in Brown County, Nebraska is listed as being at 197 W. Third St. The address on the building is 199: see photo.
- Cather House in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "SW corner of 3rd and Cedar Sts.". It's actually at the SW corner of 3rd Avenue and Cedar Street: see this photo.
- Miner Brothers Store in Red Cloud (Webster County) is listed as being at "3rd and Webster Sts." It's actually at the NW corner of 3rd Avenue and Webster Street.
- Webster County Courthouse is listed as being at 225 W. 6th St. It is actually on 6th Avenue, not 6th Street; and its current address is 621 N. Cedar (see, for example, this Webster County Court website).
- Isaac Newton Clark House in Sutton (Clay County) is listed as being at 468 Cedar St. The actual address is 407 W. Cedar Street: see this photo. Ammodramus (talk) 17:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hastings Municipal Airport Hangar-Building No. 1 in Hastings (Adams County) is listed as being at 3100 E. Twelfth Street. It's actually at 3100 W. Twelfth Street. The West Twelfth address appears on the Nebraska State Historical Society's online nomination form, and was confirmed by ground truthing. Ammodramus (talk) 16:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Rackett Grange Hall No. 318 in Garden County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "9250 NE 193". 193 is a county road, not a Nebraska highway; the correct address, as given on the nom form and verified by ground-truthing, is "9250 Road 193". Ammodramus (talk) 13:41, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
- Edgar A. Burnett House in Lancaster County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "3256 Holdrede Street". The correct spelling of the street, as given in the nom form, is "Holdrege". Ammodramus (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- The States Ballroom in Bee in Seward County, Nebraska is listed as being "Off Nebraska Highway 415". There are two problems with this. First, Nebraska Highway 415 doesn't exist; the village of Bee is about a mile east of Nebraska Highway 15, which is probably what was meant. Second, this is not a very precise address; within Bee, according to Google Maps, the ballroom is at the northeast corner of 2nd and Elm Streets. Ammodramus (talk) 04:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Immaculate Conception Church and School in Omaha, Douglas County, Nebraska, is listed as being at 1024 S. 24th Street. The church's address is actually 2708 S. 24th Street (see church's website). The school's address is 2716 S. 24th Street (see photo). The address appears incorrectly in the nom form. Ammodramus (talk) 18:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Nehawka Public Library in Nehawka, Cass County, Nebraska, is listed as being at the southeast corner of Elm and Master Streets. It's actually at the southeast corner of Elm and Maple: see photo. The address appears incorrectly in the nom form. Ammodramus (talk) 20:11, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- There are two issues with the James and Margaret Greer Farmstead in Cass County, Nebraska. First, it is listed as being at "6135 202nd St." The actual address is 6315 202nd St. (see photo of address sign). The address appears incorrectly on the first page of the nom form, but correctly on p. 16, under "Property Owner". Second, the property is missing from the NRHP Focus website; the Walker Gilmore Site (22CC28), which immediately precedes it alphabetically, is listed twice for Cass County. Ammodramus (talk) 17:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- St. Rose of Lima Catholic Church and School Complex in Crofton, Knox County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "1302-1316 S 5th St". This should be "W 5th", not "S 5th". Per the school's website, its address is 1302 W. 5th Street; per the parish website, the church is at 1316 W. 5th St. Ammodramus (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Gehling's Theatre in Falls City, Richardson County, Nebraska, is listed as being at "1592 Stone St." The actual address is 1519 Stone St. The address appears incorrectly on the nom form, which shows the building's present-day use as a True Value hardware store; the correct address is given at the Falls City True Value website. Ammodramus (talk) 02:16, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
- Bloody Run Bridge in Gage County has been moved from its original site; according to personnel at the Gage County Historical Society Museum, it is now serving as a footbridge at Big Blue Water Park in Beatrice, Nebraska. The new location is (40.262093,-96.737572). According to uglybridges.com, the bridge now at the Bloody Run site was built in 1994. Ammodramus (talk) 19:40, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
- US Post Office-Hebron in Thayer County is incorrectly listed as being at "145 North 15th Street. This incorrect address appears on the first page of the nom form; however, the second page gives the location as "the southwest corner of 5th and Olive Streets". The U.S. Postal Service's locator tool gives the address as "145 N 5th Street". — Ammodramus (talk) 22:35, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Nehawka Public Library is listed in NRIS2013a as being at the "Jct. of Elm and Master Sts.", following what is stated in the NRHP Registration document. There is no Master St. in Nehawka; it is at the southeast corner of Elm St. and Maple Ave. See photos of street signs taken and see Google maps. (Jill M. Ebers (June 17, 2002). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Nehawka Public Library / NeHBS no. CC12-015". National Park Service. Retrieved December 14, 2019. With accompanying seven photos from 2002 ) --Doncram (talk) 08:09, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Nebraska: architects, builders, engineers issues
[edit]- The architect for U.S. Post Office (Kearney, Nebraska) in Buffalo County is listed as "Knox, James Taylor". The cornerstone gives his name as James Knox Taylor.
- The architect for U.S. Post Office and Courthouse (Norfolk, Nebraska) in Madison County is listed as "Tyler, James Knox". This should almost certainly be James Knox Taylor as well. Ammodramus (talk) 18:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sacred Heart Catholic Church (Omaha, Nebraska), designed by Fisher & Lawrie in North Omaha, Nebraska, is listed in NRIS as having architect "Fisher & Laurie". The correct spelling is "Fisher & Lawrie". There are multiple other NRIS listings having "Fisher & Lawrie". --doncram 15:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Old Fremont Post Office's architect was W.J. Edbrooke. However the NRIS database shows W.J. Edbrook, repeating the "W.J. Edbrook" mentioned just once in the NRHP nomination document. However that was clearly a typo in the NRHP nomination. The architect of many similar buildings of the era is quite well known and the correct spelling includes the ending "e". --Doncram (talk) 00:53, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Red Cloud United States Post Office, at 300 N. Webster in Red Cloud, Nebraska, built in 1941 in Moderne style, includes 3 murals by Archie Musick. NRIS however mentions lists William E.L. Bunn, an artist who did different post offices' murals including at least one other Nebraska one, as a builder/architect/other associated person. The name appears in the NRHP nomination doc, but that appears to be an error, as if the form was partially filled out for a different post office. There is no mention of this post office in other coverage of Bunn, as far as I can tell. The site was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1992 as U.S. Post Office-Red Cloud, with refnum = 92000474. I removed mention of Bunn from its article. --Doncram (talk) 02:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Further, looking now at the MPS document by Carol Ahlgren, it is completely clear that Bunn did not have association with Red Cloud post office. And Ahlgren was author of each of the individual post office nomination documents I think, and she authored the MPS document about the group, so it seems certain she or her typist just made an error in document preparation for the Red Cloud one. The MPS is:
Carol Ahlgren (August 1991). "National Register of Historic Places: Nebraska Post Offices Which Contain Section Artwork (1938-42) MPS" (PDF). Retrieved May 7, 2019.. --Doncram (talk) 22:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Nebraska: dates
[edit]- The date of construction for Webster County Courthouse (Nebraska) is given as 1883. The nominating form lists two significant dates: 1914, the year of construction of the courthouse itself; and 1887, the year of construction of the jail and jailer's residence. The latter date on the nominating form, which I obtained from the Nebraska State Historical Society, was apparently typed with a different typewriter; it's possible that the form as originally submitted to the NHS bore the mistaken date 1883, which was subsequently whited out and corrected. Ammodramus (talk) 14:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
- St. Boniface Catholic Church Complex is coded with date of construction 1866 which is incorrect; it should be 1886 per the NRHP nomination document. In fact the signicant dates should be: "1886; 1900-02; 1911; 1923; 1977-78".--doncram 14:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Nebraska: architecture
[edit]- St. Boniface Catholic Church Complex is given architecture = "Gothic"; it should be dual: Gothic Revival, Second Renaissance Revival, per the NRHP nomination document. --doncram 14:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Nebraska: existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
[edit]- Z.C.B.J. Opera House (Clarkson, Nebraska) in Colfax County, Nebraska. Listed September 28, 1988; appears on October 7, 1988 list at 1988 Weekly Listings. No evidence of delisting: appears on NPS Focus site under Colfax County; appears at Nebraska State Historical Society's NRHP in Colfax County page; recent photographs show no obvious degradation (see Commons:Category:Z.C.B.J. Opera House (Clarkson, Nebraska) for photos). --Ammodramus (talk) 14:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Nebraska: document availability issues
[edit]- For Rad Jan Kollar cis 101 Z.C.B.J., the accompanying photos are available online but not the NRHP nomination text itself. Text should be at: text. Photos are at: photos. --doncram 19:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
- For Kearney National Guard Armory (currently a redlink), the Photos PDF at NPS is a copy of the Text PDF and the photos are not provided.[1]
References
- ^ "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Kearney National Guard Armory". National Park Service. Retrieved October 25, 2022. With accompanying pictures
- Maybe this is not a problem if NARA has a combined document. Check NARA version of document. --Doncram (talk) 16:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Nebraska: other
[edit]- John Janecek House #82003185, NRIS reports 106 acres, too big for a city block. That does appear in NRIS, and must be a data entry typo there. NRHP nom gives 1.6 acres. I had added this to article, even though questioning it in my edit summary, back in 2012. The nom doc says it is an entire city block, which I accepted as corroboration. However elsewhere in the nom appears the 1.6 though. --doncram 15:52, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
Nevada
[edit]Nevada: listing status
[edit]- I am simply confused by NRIS and NRHP nom doc information about Francovich House. NRIS includes entry that it was NRHP-listed on April 25, 1983. Its NRHP inventory-nomination dated December 1983 states it was listed on the National Register of Historic Places on April 25, 1983 but was delisted later the same year, in October, upon it being moved to save it from demolition.[1] What is the deal, is it re-listed on basis of the December inventory-nomination? Or does it remain delisted? Something is wrong in the NRIS record, either way. --doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- ^ Paula Boghosian and Pat Lawrence-Dietz (December 1983). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Francovich House". National Park Service. and accompanying three photos from 1982
Nevada: Demolished but still listed
[edit]- Dat So La Lee House, in Carson City, may have been demolished or otherwise removed. File:331 West Proctor Street.JPG, photo at the address in 2012, suggests that it is gone. --doncram 15:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- The Pincolini Hotel, in Reno, was destroyed by fire in 2006, as documented by a historic plaque at the site: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pincolini-Mizpah_Hotel_Site.jpg. --Doncram (talk) 23:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Nevada: built info
[edit]- NRIS has apparent typo "1889" for built date of Francovich House, at 557 Washington St. in Reno, Nevada, which, according to its NRHP inventory-nomination doc was built during 1899-1900. See above discussion of same property's listing status confusion.[1]--doncram 17:02, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
- ^ Paula Boghosian and Pat Lawrence-Dietz (December 1983). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Francovich House". National Park Service. and accompanying three photos from 1982
Nevada: property names
[edit]- Neveda-California-Oregon Railway Locomotive House and Machine Shop in Reno, Nevada, should be "Nevada" rather than "Neveda". Nyttend (talk) 03:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- submitted in batch01:19, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nevada-California-Oregon Railway Locomotive House and Machine Shop is misspelled "Neveda" in both NRIS and NPS Focus. The nomination form in NPS Focus is correct https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/83001120_text Einbierbitte (talk) 17:49, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
- Tonopah Liquor Company Building is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:01, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Tonopah Mining Company Cottage is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Tonopah Mining Company House is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Tonopah Public Library is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Tonopah Volunteer Firehouse and Gymnasium is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Tonopah-Extension Mining Company Power Building is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Water Company of Tonopah Building is misspelled "Tonapah" in NPS Focus. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
- Veterans Memorial School in Reno, Nevada is misspelled in NRIS as "Veteran's Memorial School".
NRHP nomination doc for it, from February, 1995, shows correct "Veterans" spelling. NRHP document's accompanying photos show "Veterans Memorial School". --doncram 13:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Nevada: architect, builder, engineer issues
[edit]- Humphrey House (Reno, Nevada) was built by contractor Arthur Mabson; NRIS says "Madson" (need to correct from "d" to "b" in spelling). See NRHP nomination doc. --doncram 15:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Luella Garvey House, Nevada, designed by Paul Revere Williams per sources on the architect and per NRHP document while NRIS says "William". Change to "Williams". --doncram 22:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Nevada: address issues
[edit]- Immaculate Conception Church (Sparks, Nevada) is listed as being at "590 Pyramid Way" in Sparks. The actual address is 528 Pyramid Way: see photo (street address is at upper right, on brick column). I didn't upload photos to document the fact, but 590 is a relatively recent frame house next to the church. Ammodramus (talk) 01:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Central Theater in Ely, Nevada, is listed as being at "145 W. 15th Avenue". The actual address is 145 W. 15th Street: see "Central Theater" at White Pine County Tourism & Recreatio Board webiste, and 2014 photo of theater with "15th Street" sign in upper left corner. Ely has both numbered streets and numbered avenues, although the latter do not appear to go up to 15th. Ammodramus (talk) 00:18, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Capital Theater (Ely, Nevada) is listed as being at 460 Aultman Street. In a 2014 photo, the addresses 464, 466, and 468 are visible on the three businesses occupying the building. Ammodramus (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- American Legion Hall (McGill, Nevada) is listed as being at 24 Fourth Street. The correct address is almost certainly 24 Avenue J. A 2014 photo shows that the building faces J. Moreover, it is on the southeast side of Fourth, which is the odd-numbered side; it's on the even-numbered side of J, next to a building facing J with the street number 22, and across J from numbers 23 and 25. (The building in question has no street number on it.) Ammodramus (talk) 01:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
New Hampshire
[edit]New Hampshire town issues
[edit]- Golden Rod Grange No. 114 is listed in NRIS as being in "Swanzy, New Hampshire"; it is located in Swanzey, New Hampshire. correction noted by Ken Gallager. --doncram (talk) 13:20, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
New Hampshire address Issues
[edit]- Brick Store (Bath, New Hampshire) is listed on Main Street. It is actually on Lisbon Road, which is the main street of the town, at the intersection of West Bath Road. For evidence, go to the cited location in Google Street view -- the building is hard to miss.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 15:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Tuftonboro United Methodist Church, is listed in NRIS as having address: N side of NH 171, E of jct. with Durgan Rd., Tuftonboro, New Hampshire. The correct spelling is Durgin Rd., not Durgan Rd. Noted by editor Ken Gallager in correcting the address in the wikipedia article. It was not an error in NRIS data entry; the NRHP nomination document https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97000505_text here] shows the incorrect spelling. Correct to: "Durgin" from incorrect "Durgan". --doncram 14:29, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
New Jersey
[edit]Farmer's Hall in Mount Laurel Township
[edit]Farmer's Hall is incorrectly listed as being located in Moorestown Township. At the time Farmer's Hall was added to NRIS, Mount Laurel did not have it's own post office and got all it's mail through Moorestown. However, Farmer's Hall is actually located in Mount Laurel Township, at the foot of Mount Laurel Mountain and across the street from Evesham Friends Meeting House.
New Jersey: Property name issues
[edit]- It is Zurbrugg Mansion, not "Zurburgg Mansion". --doncram 13:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Pluckemin Continental Artillery Cantonment Site is spelled correctly, but incorrectly as "Plukemin" in NRIS/Elkman. Zeete (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Baker-Duderstadt Farm is spelled incorrectly as Baker-Dauderstadt in NRIS/Elkman, but correctly in the nomination. Zeete (talk) 14:44, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Association_of_Exempt_Firemen_Building.jpg/220px-Association_of_Exempt_Firemen_Building.jpg)
- The Assembly of Exempt Firemen Building (as listed in NRIS and per NJ document used for registration ("New Jersey Office of Historic Preservation Individual Structure Survey:: Assembly of Exempt Firemen Building". National Park Service. Retrieved October 8, 2018. With accompanying photo) has name "Ass'n of Exempt Firemen Building" painted across its top now. Seems like it should have been described and listed as Association of Exempt Firemen Building. --Doncram (talk) 17:29, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
New Jersey/New York state location issue
[edit]This may not be any error. But, the NRIS / Elkman system indicates both:
- Albert Smith House, Waldwick, NJ
- Albert Smith House, Waldwick, NY
Is one of these an error?
- There's some kind of error here. According to the USGS GNIS database, there is no Waldwick, NY. Both listings are coded as "listed" in the raw NPS NRIS database and they have different reference numbers. But both have the same address and are identified as being part of the "Stone Houses of Bergen County TR" multiple listing (Waldwick, NJ is in Bergen County). Perhaps there's an Albert Smith House listed on the NRHP somewhere in New York, but it seems doubtful since the New York Historic Preservation Office doesn't seem to have a record of it. --sanfranman59 (talk) 03:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think someone got confused between Waldwick and Warwick, New York. Daniel Case (talk) 16:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
architects
[edit]- East Orange Station, 65 City Hall Plaza, East Orange, N.J., is listed as having architect (Nies,F.W.), which appears possibly to be a typo for Frank J. Nies. There are numerous NRHP listings for F.J. Nies or other variations. --doncram 20:44, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Town location issues
[edit]- Risley School was listed 5/4/2011 as in Ester Manor City, NJ. It should be Estell Manor, NJ (the USGS GNIS database lists the place name as Estell Manor, not Estell Manor City). --sanfranman59 (talk) 00:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
New Jersey: street address issues
[edit]- Vail-Trust House, Somerset County, is listed incorrectly as located at 225 Greenbrook Road. The correct address is 255 Greenbrook Road, as show on page 12 of section 8 and the appendix diagrams of the nomination. (the first page of the nomination is incorrect) Zeete (talk) 19:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Date issues
[edit]- Elizabeth Station is listed as being built in 1983, which should be 1893 according to its nomination. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 21:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Historic District issues
[edit]- Queens Campus, Rutgers University, Middlesex County, is marked as Historic District on its nomination, but not in NRIS/Elkman. Zeete (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Belcher-Ogden Mansion-Price, Benjamin-Price-Brittan Houses District, Union County, is marked as Historic District on its nomination, but not in NRIS/Elkman. Zeete (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Cary Station, Morris County, is marked as Building/Site on its nomination, but incorrectly marked as Historic District in NRIS/Elkman. Zeete (talk) 11:32, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
New Mexico
[edit]New Mexico: NRHP announcements
[edit]This is hard-won information. Thank you User:25or6to4, User:Halmueller, User:Ntsimp for sorting out at wt:NRHP (see this version of August 21, 2019).
- Camino Real-Alamitos Section, with refnum 11000169, was apparently NRHP-listed (on April 8, 2011) because it shows up in NRIS version 2013a, and it can also be seen at https://npgallery.nps.gov/AssetDetail/NRIS/11000169, and apparently it is in Santa Fe county. But it was not covered in National Register of Historic Places listings in Santa Fe County, New Mexico, BECAUSE ITS LISTING WAS NEVER ANNOUNCED in any of the NPS's "Weekly List" announcements, which wikipedia NRHP editors use to update our county NRHP lists! Ten other Camino Real segments, also listed on April 8, 2011, were finally announced in Weekly List announcement of February 2, 2012, but this one was omitted, I am assuming by accident. It seems to be listed, so I am adding it now to the Santa Fe county NRHP list-article.
How many other discrepancies between our lists, diligently developed using NRIS as of 2011 or so, plus Weekly List announcements, vs. actual listings, might exist? There have been a few others at least. The Weekly lists have sometimes been edited later, without notice, too, which seems wrong, because any fix should be announced in a new Weekly list, and we figured out we missed a few that got done that way, but others we might never have noticed. --Doncram (talk) 00:15, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
New Mexico: address restricted unnecessarily?
[edit]A number of places listed in July and December 1990, including houses and the Mora Historic District, within National Register of Historic Places listings in Mora County, New Mexico seem to have been inappropriately identified as "Address restricted", so NRHP docs are not available for them. Note the Mora Historic District includes NRHP-listed St. Vrain Mill among a total of 70 contributing buildings on 41 acres. Some of these covered by Historic and Architectural Resources of the Upland Valleys MPS, which shows some redactions (probably unnecessary). How is the village of Mora supposed to proceed with its development, discussed in that MPS, if it is secret what properties are covered in NRHP and may be eligible for historic renovation grants? These are not archeological dig sites! I went ahead sometime to create Daniel Cassidy House, about a hipped cottage, with skimpy sources. The NRHP docs are not available, but should be. I just spot-checked for whether docs are available at NP Gallery search site, find there has been no change, they are not available. The ones that appear wrongly classified are:
- Daniel Cassidy House
- James J. Cassidy House
- Garcia House (Mora, New Mexico)
- Gordon-Sanchez Mill
- Ledoux Rural Historic District, in Ledoux, listed December 24, 1990
- Mora Historic District, Mora, listed December 24, 1990
- North Carmen Historic District, in Ledoux, listed December 24, 1990
- Jose Olquin Barn-Corral Complex
- Desiderio Valdez House, Cleveland, listed December 24, 1990
- Maybe also Narciso Valdez House, Ocate, listed in 1980
Perhaps there are more. Note from the MPS: "The repository for all of the inventory materials is the Historic Preservation Division of the New Mexico Office of Cultural Affairs in Santa Fe, New Mexico." --Doncram (talk) 04:59, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
In National Register of Historic Places listings in Lincoln County, New Mexico, why would should there be address restriction for Luis A. and Susan B. Jimenez House and Studios, in or near Hondo, listed December 10, 2014 (#14001016)?
In National Register of Historic Places listings in Guadalupe County, New Mexico, why should three historic districts be address restricted?
- Anton Chico de Abajo Historic District, listed September 29, 1986 (#86002334), Anton Chico, New Mexico
- Colonias de San Jose Historic District, listed September 29, 1986 (#86002331), in Colonias, New Mexico
- La Placita De Abajo District, listed September 29, 1986 (#86002338), in Colonias, New Mexico
Like, I presume that the historic area of Anton Chico is publicly known, though presumably not the exact borders of the historic district because of the withholding of information by the restriction, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of historic designation? --Doncram (talk) 17:44, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
New Mexico: documents and/or photos mixups
[edit]- The McKinley County Courthouse NRHP document is accompanied by photos for the Palace Hotel (Gallup, New Mexico), and vice versa. See accompanying two photos (photos filed by error under refnum of Palace Hotel (Gallup, New Mexico)) and accompanying two photos from 1985 and 1988 (photos filed by error under refnum of McKinley County Courthouse). --Doncram (talk) 03:21, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- For the John Acord House, on W. Main St. in Artesia, New Mexico, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1984, the photos document is available but the text document link does not work, the text document is not where expected: Betty Swanson (1983). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: John Acord House". National Park Service. Retrieved January 22, 2019. With accompanying two photos from 1983. --Doncram (talk) 00:33, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
New Mexico: demolished but still listed
[edit]- The Schmitt-Laemmle House at 1106 Columbia in Las Vegas, San Miguel County, is no longer at that address. Photos of the parking lot now at the site are at Commons:Category:Las Vegas, New Mexico 1106 Columbia Street. The occupant of 1108 Columbia told the photographer that the house had been acquired and demolished by New Mexico Highlands University. Ammodramus (talk) 03:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- The MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County, is apparently no longer extant. "New Mexico's Rich Cultural Heritage", dated March 2012, issued by New Mexico Historic Preservation Division, p. 51, lists "Magdalena Merchantile Building" as "(REMOVED SR & NR)" [uppercase in original]. According to the nom form, this is another name for the building. Google's street view shows no building along Highway 60 that matches the photos or the description in the nom form; a ground search through Magdalena, which isn't very large, also turned up no two-story stone buildings. Ammodramus (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
New Mexico: property name issues
[edit]- Route 66, State maintained from Milan to Continental Divid is listed in Cibola County: need to correct spelling from "Divid" to "Divide". Nyttend (talk) 01:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Forset Service Archeological Site No. FS-7 in Sandoval County: need to correct spelling from "Forset" to "Forest". Nyttend (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Route 66 and National Old Trails Road Historic Distric at La Bajada in Santa Fe County: need to correct spelling from "Distric" to "District". Nyttend (talk) 13:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- O'Keefe, Georgia, Home and Studio — her name was spelled "O'Keeffe", not "O'Keefe". Nyttend (talk) 21:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Route 66 Rural Historic District: Laguna to McCarty's in Cibola County — the community is named "McCartys", and the other Route 66 district in the county has it "McCartys". Nyttend (talk) 14:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hot Springs Bathhouse and Commerical Historic District in Truth or Consequences: correct to "Commercial". Nyttend (talk) 14:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Our Lady of Purication Catholic Church in Dona Ana: correct "Purication" to "Purification". Nyttend (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Church Avenue-Lovers Lane Historic Ditrict in Aztec: correct "Ditrict" to "District". Nyttend (talk) 14:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- The site in Santa Rosa, New Mexico with refnum 84000633 is listed in NRIS2013a as the "Julius J. Moise House", but the NRHP nomination document for it is clear that it is the J. Julian Moise House instead. Appears to be a NRIS data entry error. --Doncram (talk) 05:11, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
New Mexico: town location issues
[edit]- International Boundary Marker No. 1, U.S. and Mexico in Dona Aña County, New Mexico is listed as being in El Paso, New Mexico — it's just across the Rio Grande from El Paso, Texas, but is actually in Sunland Park, New Mexico. Nyttend (talk) 14:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- The Jackson House is listed as being in Almagordo; proper spelling is Alamagordo. Nyttend (talk) 15:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- Archeological Site No. AR-03-08-02-415 in Otero County is listed in Timberson; the GNIS turns up no results for such a place. Likely Timberon, a community in Otero County; there's another Register-listed archaeological site there. Nyttend (talk) 15:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- San Juan Mesa Ruin in Sandoval County is listed in Jemez Spring; proper spelling is Jemez Springs. Nyttend (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Route 66 and National Old Trails Road Historic Distric at La Bajada (see spelling errors section above) is listed at La Bajada Village; according to the GNIS, the community is actually La Bajada. Nyttend (talk) 14:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- San Juan Pueblo is listed at Sante Fe; correct to Santa Fe.
- Garcia Canyon Pueblito (LA 36608) is listed at Tierrra Amarilla; correct to Tierra Amarilla. Nyttend (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Monte Vista Fire Station is listed in Albuqerque; correct to Albuquerque. Nyttend (talk) 03:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
New Mexico: location issues
[edit]- The J.P. Strong Store, which in fact is located on the southwest corner of the junction of NM 120 and NM 442 in Ocate, New Mexico, is stated in NRIS and in the NRHP nomination document to be located on 21 rather than NM 442. But that seems to have been an error, or highway numbering has changed since listing date, based on Google Maps and upon whatever sources underly Wikipedia's articles about 21 and 442. --Doncram (talk) 06:10, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
- Ojo Caliente Hot Springs Round Barn near Ojo Caliente is listed "500 uds N of the western terminus of NM 414"; correct "uds" to "yds". Nyttend (talk) 03:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Route 66 and National Old Trails Road Historic Distric at La Bajada (see spelling errors section above) is listed at "Appox. 0.5 mi. NE of N terminus of NM 16" — need to change to "Approx." Nyttend (talk) 13:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- White Cafe in Gallup is listed at "100 W. Sixth-sixth Ave."; need to change to "100 W. Sixty-sixth Ave." Nyttend (talk) 15:01, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
- Embudo Historic District near Embudo (Rio Arriba County) is listed along U.S. Route 64, but the provided coords (and a local) say that it's on State Road 68. Nyttend (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
- Queen Anne House in La Luz is listed on "Kearny St"; Google Maps and a local say that it's "Kearney St." Nyttend (talk) 20:25, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- Main Street Commercial Building (refnum 82003336) in Magdalena, Socorro County, has its address given only as "Main St.", which is not terribly helpful. The complete address is "106 N. Main Street"; the number is visible in this 2013 photo. Ammodramus (talk) 19:26, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
- Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway Depot in Magdalena, Socorro County, has its address given only as "Off U.S. Route 60", a description that applies to virtually every building in Magdalena. A more exact address, given at the Magdalena Public Library website, is "108 North Main Street". Ammodramus (talk) 23:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- The MacDonald Merchandise Building (refnum 80002573) in Magdalena, Socorro County (which is apparently no longer extant: see section "Demolished but still listed") is listed on "U.S. 90". The nom form correctly describes it as "Highway 60". U.S. 90 does not go anywhere near Magdalena. Ammodramus (talk) 14:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Bank of Portales (refnum 84000635) in Roosevelt County is listed at "123 Main". This is either incomplete or incorrect. The building is located on the northeast side of Main northwest of 1st: see photo of intersection. There is no address on the building, but the building immediately northwest of it bears the number "106", suggesting that addresses on that side of the street are even-numbered. A coffee-shop, Do Drop In, is located at 123 S. Main (see Roosevelt County Chamber listing); this is at the north corner of Main and 2nd. It looks as though the bank building's address should be 123 N. Main, or that the 123 is incorrect. — Ammodramus (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Abenicio Salazar Historic District, actually is located on Camino del Pueblo, which is apparently a former routing of U.S. Route 85. NRIS2013a states US 85 is location but that is not so. This is in Bernalillo, New Mexico. I visited there. --Doncram (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
New Mexico: Architect, builder issues
[edit]- Springer Building in Albuquerque is listed having architect/builders Miles Brittelle, Sr. and George M. Williamson (architect), who both in fact were associates of Trost & Trost at some point. However the latter person was not an architect of the building. The NRHP document is a bit confusing, but when read carefully seems to clarify that Williamson did some other design work for the Springer Transfer Company, but he was not an architect of the Springer Building, which instead was designed by the Springer Transfer Company with architect Miles Brittelle, Sr. being involved (perhaps as a direct employee of the Springer Transfer Company). So Williamson should be dropped from NRIS mention. The passage in NRHP document is:
--Doncram (talk) 20:08, 25 June 2019 (UTC)The Springer Transfer Company was founded in Alhuquerque by $r} William Springer, who began in the drayage business. Local hauling of furniture, sand and earth was the main activity of the company in those days. In January, 1918, the Springer Transfer Company was incorporated in the new State of New Mexico. Mr. Springer served as president until his death in 1925, when Mr. Bennett replaced him. By 1925 the business had grown to "engage in the storage business to provide a potentially profitable service to the growing population of Albuquerque." A warehouse on East Central Avenue was purchased first; then in 1929 Springer Transfer engaged architect G. M. Williamson to complete a new office and storage facility. Williamson was an associate of Trost and Trost in the 1920's. However, it was his own firm, including architect Miles Brittelle, Sr., which designed the Springer Building in 1929.
- Atkins and Smith House is listed in NRIS2013a as having architect or builder "Frizer,Thomas". That's a typo; it was in fact built by Thomas Frazer, who built many black rock buildings in the area. The correct spelling is in its NRHP document (Linda L. Bonar (September 19, 1979). "Utah State Historical Society Structure/Site Information: Atkins and Smith House". National Park Service. Retrieved July 31, 2019. With accompanying photo from 1981 ). --Doncram (talk) 04:02, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
- The architect Willard C. Kruger is correctly identified in several NRIS listings, but he is misidentified as "William C. Kruger" in NRIS2013a for Columbian School (Raton, New Mexico), for Clayton Public Schools Historic District, and for Longfellow School (Raton, New Mexico). This appears to be a typo in NRIS data entry; the correct name appears in NRHP document for the Columbian School ( David Kammer (September 30, 1995). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Columbian School". National Park Service. Retrieved August 6, 2019. With accompanying two photos from 1995 ). --Doncram (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Albuquerque Veterans Administration Medical Center, NRHP-listed in 1983, is reported in NRIS2013a as having builder/architect of "Vetrans Administration". Argh. --Doncram (talk) 14:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
New York
[edit]North Carolina
[edit]North Dakota
[edit]North Dakota: demolished but still listed
[edit]- The New Hampshire Apartments, destroyed by 1997 floods: see plaque for details. Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
North Dakota: property names
[edit]- The Knerr Block, Floyd Block, McHench Building and Webster and Coe Building is incorrectly listed in NRIS with "Coe" spelt incorrectly as "Cole", per the NRHP nom: Norene A. Roberts (February 12, 1983). "NRHP Inventory-Nomination: Knerr Block, Floyd Block, McHench Building and Webster and Coe Building". National Park Service. and Accompanying six photos, exterior and interior, from 1982
- McKinney Cemetery is spelled incorrectly in NRIS as "Mckinney Cemetery". Correct spelling per its NRHP nomination document (available at https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/78001994_text is with capital K as in "McKinney". --doncram 20:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- Old Settler's Pavilion near Pekin, North Dakota, built in 1920 is asserted by NRIS to also have known as Stump Kae Park Pavilion. Is that a horrible typo for Stump Lake Pavilion???? NRHP nom doc not available online. --doncram 23:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
North Dakota: architect names
[edit]- For Beulah School, NRIS has two typos in its architects names. It is a work of Frederick Walcott Keith (not Kieth as appears in NRIS) and it is a work of Herman Leonhard (not Leonard as appears in NRIS). See NRHP nom doc available at https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/97001200_text.
- For Bismarck Civic Auditorium, the architect is Arthur W. Van Horn, not "Van Horn,Arthir W." as listed in NRIS. See National Register of Historic Places Registration: Bismarck Civic Auditorium / City Auditorium as one source. --doncram 21:35, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
North Dakota: other
[edit]- St. Mary's Cemetery, Wrought-Iron Cross Site A's NRIS listing asserts it has 10000 contributing objects. The 10000 is almost certainly an error; it is probably supposed to be 1. Compare to St. Mary's Cemetery, Wrought-Iron Cross Site B, St. Mary's Cemetery, Wrought-Iron Cross Site C and other "iron cross" sites listed in the MPS. Individual NRHP nomination "not digitized", not available for me to review. --doncram 15:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Ohio
[edit]Oklahoma
[edit]Oklahoma: text and photos document issues
[edit]Photos miss-filed under Utah's Great Basin Research Station Historic District's reference number, accompanying three photos from 1993 are photos, instead, of Rock Island Depot in Grandfield, Oklahoma. Expected location for photos to accompany the Rock Island Depot's nomination has no file. --Doncram (talk) 14:48, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Oklahoma: demolished but still listed
[edit]- First State Bank (Shattuck, Oklahoma) (refnum 83004170), listed as 239 S. Main in Shattuck, Ellis County, is apparently no longer extant. A 2016 photo of the northwest corner of 3rd and Main shows a car-lot there; the southernmost building in the block is 227 S. Main. A ground search turned up no buildings on Main that matched the photo in the nom form. Ammodramus (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sinclair Loading Rack, near Seminole, Oklahoma, built in 1928, listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1985. It was demolished, apparently, since. --Doncram (talk) 14:25, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- 66 Motel (Tulsa), in Tulsa, Oklahoma, demolished by wrecking ball in 2001. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 10:08, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
Oklahoma: property names
[edit]- Sod House (Cleo Springs, Oklahoma), listed September 29, 1970, About 4 mi. N of Cleo Springs, is named something like "Sod House _" in NRIS. This causes problems in computer-generated lists and so on. I assume correction should be to, simply, "Sod House". doncram (talk) 18:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Morison Baptist Church in Morrison: correct to "Morrison". Nyttend (talk) 03:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- To expand: Morrison Baptist Church in Morrison, Oklahoma is the church; it is misspelled as "Morison Baptist Church" in NRIS; change 1 r to 2 r's in the church name in NRIS. --doncram 18:00, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
- Will Rodgers Park Gardens and Arboretum in Oklahoma City: correct to "Rogers". Nyttend (talk) 04:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Josephine Reifsnyder Lustron House in Stillwater is spelled "Luston" in NRIS. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 18:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Oklahoma: town issues
[edit]- American Legion Hut (Oklahoma, Oklahoma). Given as "Oklahoma, OK". Appears state name is given in town name field. Or, is there a town Oklahoma, Oklahoma? doncram (talk) 21:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nail's Station, which is near Kenefic, Oklahoma, is listed in NRIS as being "2 mi. SW of Kenefick" near "Keneflick, Oklahoma". Listed June 29, 1972. Typo: Kenefick in location field; Keneflick in town field. Correction: Kenefic in both places. Note, Kenefic is the town given for another NRHP listing in the county (Bryan County, Oklahoma). doncram (talk) 03:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hildebrand Mill in Delaware County, Oklahoma is listed as being near to "Siloam Springs, Oklahoma", but it is in fact Siloam Springs, Arkansas that is nearby (across a state line). -- Noted by Nyttend 14:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC), updated after creating article by doncram (talk) 22:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- Trahern's Station is listed in Shadypoint: correct to Shady Point. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Prague City Hall and Jail is listed in Prauge: correct to Prague. Nyttend (talk) 01:05, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hotel Aldridge (Wewoka, Oklahoma) is located in Wewoka, Oklahoma, not "Wenoka". Also it is located at "Third and S. Wewoka Streets", not "Third and Wenoka Sts." The NRIS-provided coordinates show the location within Wewoka, Oklahoma; there is no Wenoka and there is no Wenoka St. --doncram (talk) 20:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Oklahoma: address issues
[edit]- Willie W. Wilson House in Fort Towson is listed at "Cincinatti and Main Sts.": correct spelling to "Cincinnati", and also note that it's Cincinnati Ave., not Cincinnati St. Nyttend (talk) 12:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Little Cabin Creek Bridge near Vinita is listed at "U.S. 60/69 over Little Cabin Creek, southeast of junction with U.S. 44" — it's Interstate 44, not U.S. Route 44. Nyttend (talk) 13:38, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- First Methodist-Episcopal Church, South in Vinita is listed at "314 W. Candian Ave." — correct to "Canadian". Nyttend (talk) 13:45, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Waverley Historic District in Enid is listed as being "Roughly bounded by W Broadway Ave., N and S Tyler Sts.,S. Harrison St., W. Oklahoma St. and N and S Bachanan Sts." Correct "Bachanan" to Buchanan. Nyttend (talk) 15:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Pauls Valley Historic District in Pauls Valley is listed as being "Roughly bounded by railroad tracks, Grant Ave., Joy and". According to a state NRHP listings page, it's "Roughly bounded by railroad tracks, Grant Ave., and Joy St." Nyttend (talk) 22:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Trahern's Station is listed "9 mi. W. of Shadypoint" — correct to Shady Point. Nyttend (talk) 00:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Choctaw Agency is listed "1 mi. E of Skullyville on SR" — coords show that "SR" is State Highway 9. Nyttend (talk) 00:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- St. Paul Baptist Church and Cemetery near Meeker is listed "4.25 mi. N, 1.5 mi. W of Jct. US 62 amd OK 18" — correct "amd" to "and". Nyttend (talk) 01:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ozark Trails Section of Route 66 is listed at "Jct. of N3540 rd and E0890 Rd W to jct. of E0890 Rd. and St. Louis and San Francisco RR tracks" — correct "N3540 rd" to "N3540 Rd", add periods after "rd" in both cases. Nyttend (talk) 01:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Fairview School near Meeker is listed "2.25 NNW of jct. of US 62 and OK 18": add "miles" after "2.25". Nyttend (talk) 01:12, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Idabel Armory in Idabel is listed at "Washngton and SE Avenue F Sts." Nyttend (talk) 02:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Gatewood East Historic District in Oklahoma County is listed at "NW 16th to N of NW 22nd, N. Classen Blvd. to N. Blackwelder Ave. and N. Flordia Ave." — correct "Flordia" to "Florida". Nyttend (talk) 03:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Merchants Transfer and Storage in Oklahoma County is listed at "l9 E. California" (capitalised, it's "L9", not "19"): correct to "19 E. California". Nyttend (talk) 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sheets House in Newkirk, Oklahoma (Kay County). The address is given as 1350 W. Peckingham Rd., but the maps say Peckham Road. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 16:24, 19 February 2014 (UTC).
- Shattuck National Bank Building (refnum 83004171) in Shattuck, Ellis County, is listed on the nom form at "100 S. Main". The correct address, 101 S. Main, appears on the Shattuck Public Library website; ground-truthing confirms that it's on the odd-numbered side of Main. Ammodramus (talk) 14:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Oklahoma: architect / builder /engineer issues
[edit]- Bryan County Courthouse (Durant, Oklahoma) (refnum 84002974) is listed in NRIS2013a as having a Jewell Hinks as architect; it is Jewell Hicks, as named in NRHP document and in corresponding state-wide County Courthouses of Oklahoma TR MRA document and elsewhere. --Doncram (talk) 23:40, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
- White Cloud Lodge, located at 820 E. 146th St., Payne County, Oklahoma near Perkins, Oklahoma was designed by woman architect Elmira Sauberan Smyrl or Elmira Smyrl. NRIS2013a lists her name incorrectly as "Smyri" with an "I". NRHP document is not available online, but her name is Smyrl with an "L". See sources: [4], [5], [6]. --Doncram (talk) 04:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Oklahoma: other issues
[edit]- The NRIS information pages for the Citizen's State Bank in Edmond and the Citizen's State Bank in Oklahoma City have the images switched. The nomination forms are correct. kennethaw88 • talk 18:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Oregon
[edit]Pennsylvania
[edit]Puerto Rico
[edit]Puerto Rico: omissions and exclusions
[edit]- National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center, Esperanza Ward, San Rafael Sector, Rd. 625, Arecibo vicinity, 07000525, LISTED, 9/23/08, is omitted from NRIS, although it was listed, in fact as the weekly featured listing, in September 2008. Weekly listing: PUERTO RICO, ARECIBO MUNICIPALITY (http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20081003.HTM. Omission detected by Lvklock, within a joint reconciliation exercise with me. Thanks! doncram (talk) 07:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Puerto Rico: names issues
[edit]- Faro de Punta Borinquen, listed October 22, 1981, at NRIS coords 18°30′1″N 67°8′7″W / 18.50028°N 67.13528°W, located in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, is listed in NRIS as "Faro di Punta Borinquen". Wikipedia editor User:Jmundo believes it must be an error to use Italian word "di" rather than Spanish "de". Also, it is listed as "Faro de Punta Borinquen, Punta Borinquen, Borinquen, Agaudilla County, PR" in the Historic American Buildings Survey, at Faro de Punta Borinquen, in HABS. So, could it be checked and if appropriate corrected to "Faro de Punta Borinquen"? doncram (talk) 04:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Further, the "de" rather than "di" spelling is used in "Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register" from the office of the Governor of Puerto Rico. (Thanks User:Jmundo!) doncram (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Faro de Punta Higuero, in Rincon, Puerto Rico, listed October 22, 1981, also should be checked and if appropriate corrected from "Faro di Punta Higuero" to "Faro de Punta Higuero". doncram (talk) 04:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- "Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register" shows "de" rather than "di" here, too. doncram (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Fuerte de la Conception, located at Stahl St.
18°26′17″N 67°9′2″W / 18.43806°N 67.15056°W in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, is listed in NRIS as being in "Aquadilla" with a Q, when it should be "Aguadilla" with a G. doncram (talk) 04:29, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Panteon Otero-Martinez is listed in NRIS as "Pauteon Otero-Martinez", while the correct word is Panteon. Typo: Pauteon; Correction: Panteon, in name of property. The more fully correct spelling, shown in "Properties of Puerto Rico included in the National Register", is "Panteón" (the Spanish word for mausoleum), but i understand the NRIS system would not accommodate the accent on the O. Issue noted by User:Jmundo. doncram (talk) 08:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- McCabe Memorial Chapel is listed in NRIS as "Mc Cabe Memorial Church". It is located per NRIS at 835 Eugenio Maria de Hostos Ave. in San Juan, Puerto Rico, was listed April 11, 2008, has refnum=08000283. It appears that "Mc Cabe" is a typo for "McCabe"; it certainly makes it hard to look up in a database. doncram (talk) 00:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Puerto Rico: town issues
[edit]- Casa Alonso, at 34 Betances St., Vega Baja, Puerto Rico is listed in NRIS as being in "Veja Baja". Listed December 13, 1996, refnum=96001491. Typo: Veja Baja; Correction: Vega Baja. doncram (talk) 17:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Puerto Rico: architect/builder issues
[edit]- Plata Bridge's builders are stated to include "Gordon Bridge Co.", which should be "Groton Bridge Co." instead, per its NRHP nomination document.
Puerto Rico: other issues
[edit]- Gomez Residencia (Mayaguez, Puerto Rico), listed June 15, 1988, refnum=88000656, located at Mendez Vigo No. 60, Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, is described in NRIS as having architecture that is "Mission/Spanish Revival, Neo-Andalsusi". That last word must be Andalusi instead. Typo:Neo-Andalsusi; Correction: Neo-Andalusi; in architecture field. doncram (talk) 07:55, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- Arenas Bridge. It is stated by the National Park Service in a travel itinerary webpage that the bridge is still in use, at the bottom, here. However, Matthiasb points out this sat-image at Google indicates a newer bridge on the east for the modern traffic. Hmm, yes, that image is pretty convincing. Looks like cars are parked in the approach to the historic bridge, too. Thanks Matthiasb. doncram (talk) 18:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Rhode Island
[edit]Rhode Island: demolished but still listed
[edit]- In Providence, Rhode Island: Providence Fruit and Produce Warehouse Company Building, demolished in 2008. --Marcbela (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Trinity Church (Pawtucket, Rhode Island) was destroyed by fire in 2005. Mangoe (talk) 01:20, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Rhode Island: error in name
[edit]- In Washington County, Rhode Island, NRIS apparently lists "Tottell House" as a property name. The correct name is "Tootell House", which is the name currently recorded in the state's records. See http://www.ri.gov/preservation/search/view.php?idnumber=SOKI00550 . Tootell is a well-known surname in South Kingstown, where this house is located. --Orlady (talk) 18:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- Central Street Historic District (Narragansett, Rhode Island). NRIS lists as "Central Street Historic Distriict". NRIS should be changed to correct spelling from "Distriict" to "District". --doncram (talk) 00:43, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Rhode Island: address issues
[edit]- Peace Dale Historic District is listed as roughly bounded by by Kensey Rd., Oakwoods Dr., Kingstown Rd., School, Church and Railroad Sts. According to googlemaps, there is no Kensey Rd. in Peace Dale, but there is a Kersey Rd. Typo: Kensey Correction: Kersey Lvklock (talk) 20:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Rhode Island: county location issues
[edit]- William Whalley House, 33 Burchard Ave., Little Compton, is listed in the NRIS database as in Bristol County. Little Compton and this address are in Newport County. --sanfranman59 (talk) 06:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
South Carolina
[edit]South Carolina: property names
[edit]- Chester Historic District (Boundary Increase) is listed as being "Roughly bounded by Hemphill Ave., Brawley, Saluda, and FooteSts. and along Reedy St." — need to add a space in the middle of "FooteSts." to convert it to "Foote Sts." Nyttend (talk) 15:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- The alternate name for the Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway (Boundary Increase) is given as "See A1so:Reedy River Falls Historic Park and Greenway" — "Also" is spelled with the numeral "1", rather than the letter "L". Nyttend (talk) 15:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
South Carolina: county location issues
[edit]- Seaside Plantation House, listed in Charleston County, but according to coordinates given (verified with pictures & bird's eye views) it is in Colleton County. --Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Spanish Mount Point, listed in Charleston County as Address Restricted, but according to this map and other sources, it is located in Edisto Beach State Park in Colleton County. --Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 20:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
South Carolina: town location issue
[edit]- St. Stephen's Episcopal Church (St. Stephen, South Carolina), listed in NRIS as being in St. Stephens, while it is in St. Stephen. doncram (talk) 08:45, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Landsford Plantation House in Chester County is listed in "Landsford Township", but the GNIS lists no such place; this is to be expected, as South Carolina has no townships. Nyttend (talk) 17:57, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- South Carolina has used the term "township." In 1731, they set up eleven townships to encourage to the settling of inland areas by European settlers. Eventually thirteen townships were established. Many were predominately German, Welsh, French, or Irish/Scots-Irish. For example, Orangeburg township was largely German and is the genesis of Orangeburg, South Carolina (Edgar, Walter, ed., South Carolina Encyclopedia, p. 973, 2006).
- Later, some/all (?) counties were laid out in townships. See Acts of the General Assembly of South-Carolina, 1886, p. 702 for a reference to Landsford Township. The present day governmental significance of these is obscure at best. Landsford Township probably was in the northeast corner of the Chester County. There is a Landsford Precinct for voting - Chester County voting precincts. KudzuVine (talk) 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
- Old Batesburg-Leesville High School is listed as being on Summerland Ave. in Lexington. It is actually on Columbia Ave. Batesburg-Leesville. The nomination states it is along Summerland Ave in Leesville, which is probably what Columbia Ave. was before the city merged with Batesburg in 1992 (after the nomination). kennethaw88 • talk 21:59, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
South Carolina: address issues
[edit]- Lee County Courthouse in Bishopville, South Carolina, is listed at the Focus site as being at "123 Main Street"; in this, it follows the nom form. However, there are both N. Main and S. Main addresses; the courthouse is at 123 S. Main (see, for example, the Lee County Assessor's website). Ammodramus (talk) 02:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- The Atlantic Coast Line Railroad Depot (Conway, South Carolina) is said to be on the "North side of US 701," but a simple Google Street View search indicates that it's located on South Carolina Highway 905. -------User:DanTD (talk) 19:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
- Williams Chapel A.M.E. Church (refnum 85002345) in Orangeburg is listed as being at 1908 Glover Street. It's actually at 1198 Glover Street (see church website). Orangeburg's numbering system may have changed since the time of the church's nomination. Ammodramus (talk) 11:32, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
South Carolina: other issues
[edit]- Just Added - Lindsay Cemetery, near Due West, South Carolina. Here's what the NPS just listed:
**SOUTH CAROLINA, CALHOUN COUNTY, **Lindsay Cemetery, **Lindsay Cemetery Rd., **Due West vicinity, 09000364, **LISTED, 5/27/09
It has already been added to National Register of Historic Places listings in Calhoun County, South Carolina. Unfortunately, it's in Abbeville County, South Carolina, not Calhoun. They're not even close to each other. See Abbeville County Cemetery Project]. Also Google Lindsay Cemetery Rd, Due West, SC, produces this See also this article on Jimmy Carter visiting Due West to see his Carter ancestor's graves in Lindsay Cemetery. clariosophic (talk) 08:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have moved it from the Calhoun table to the Abbeville table. clariosophic (talk) 21:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- The original listing of the Charleston Historic District (refnum 66000964) is given as having an area of 0 acres. Nyttend (talk) 16:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
South Dakota
[edit]South Dakota: property names
[edit]- One among three more church properties nationwide mispelled with "Epicopal" in the name, where it should be as "Episcopal":
- St. Mary's Epicopal Church (Flandreau, South Dakota)
doncram (talk) 13:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
- submitted in batch01:5-7, reported by NRHP_RT to be fixing in NRIS as of 3/4/2009. doncram (talk) 23:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Archeological site no. 39CU1619 in Custer County: capitalise to Archeological Site No. 39CU1619. Nyttend (talk) 14:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wihelm Ziegler House-Barn in Hutchinson County: correct first name to "Wilhelm" per its nomination form. Nyttend (talk) 18:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Daktoa Tin and Gold Mine: correct to "Dakota". Nyttend (talk) 21:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Archeological 39FA1638 near Edgemont in Fall River County: add "Site" before 39FA1638. Nyttend (talk) 00:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Black Hawk Elementaty School in Meade County: correct "Elementaty" to "Elementary". Nyttend (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Butte County Courthouse amd Historic Jail Building in Belle Fourche: correct "amd" to "and". Nyttend (talk) 13:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Brink-Wagner House in Hughes County should be Brink-Wegner House according to here. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 06:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
- Pratt & Cjolme Building (refnum 07000532) in Platte, Charles Mix County, is misspelled: the name should be "Gjolme". The misspelling appears in the nominating form; but see photo of building's crest. According to the nom form, the eponymous builder was "H. K. Cjolme"; this is probably Hans K. Gjolme, a photo of whose tombstone appears at Find A Grave. Several contemporary sources, e.g. Twenty-Seventh Annual Report of the Board of Railroad Commissioners of the State of South Dakota for the Fiscal Year Ended June 30, 1916, p. 42, make reference to a "H. K. Gjolme" of Platte. Ammodramus (talk) 03:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- The surname in the Margaret and Vernon Maxon House in Huron, Beadle County (refnum 98001409), is apparently misspelled and should be "Moxon". It's spelled "Maxon" throughout the NRHP nominating form. However, a sign on the lawn spells the name "Moxon". An obituary published by Huron's Kuhler Funeral Home and an obituary published in the Seattle Times give the decedent's name as "Margaret L. Moxon", and her late spouse's name as "Vernon Moxon" both formerly of Huron. An entry at FindAGrave from the Restlawn Memorial Gardens of Huron includes a photo of a stone on which the names "Vernon W." and "Margaret L." are over the surname "Moxon". The NRHP nominating form for the Edbert and Josie Opitz House, a Lustron house in Redfield, South Dakota, states that the original owners of the house were "Vernon and Margaret Moxon", who were "transferred to Huron in 1956"; the form spells the name "Moxon" a second time in that paragraph, but also spells it "Maxon". The nominating form for the Huron house states that "Mr. Maxon worked as a soil scientist"; one of the authors of "Soil Survey of Beadle County, South Dakota" is listed as "Vernon W. Moxon". Ammodramus (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- The surname in the Herman Friewald Barn (refnum 08000045) in Grant County is misspelled. It's spelled "Friewald" at the top of the nom form; but it's used multiple times elsewhere in the form, and each time it's spelled "Freiwald". Ammodramus (talk) 12:09, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
South Dakota: demolished but still listed
[edit]- South Dakota Department of Transportation Bridge No. 63-210-282 (refnum 99001216) in Turner County is described in the nom form as a Pratt through truss bridge. When the site was visited in 2015, the river was spanned by a recent-looking beam bridge; see 2015 photos. Four steel cylinder piers, visible in photos, may remain from the earlier bridge. Ammodramus (talk) 02:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- South Dakota Department of Transportation Bridge No. 14-060-032 (refnum 00000020) in Clay County is depicted in the nom form as a concrete arch bridge. When the site was visited in 2016, Spring Creek was carried under the county road through a concrete box culvert bearing the date "2009". See Commons:Category:Spring Creek bridge, 458 Avenue (Clay County, South Dakota) 2016 photos. Ammodramus (talk) 13:58, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Holy Fellowship Episcopal Church (refnum 75001712) in Charles Mix County is apparently no longer extant. The nom form describes its location as "SE of Greenwood", on Section 26, with UTM coordinates. The topo map at mapper.acme.com shows a church in the very southwest corner of Section 26, near the eastern edge of Greenwood, north of the road that runs parallel to the river and west of the north-south road past the Holy Fellowship cemetery. A ground search turned up no churches in that area; no churches along the north-south road; and no churches along the river road east and southeast of Greenwood. There are two churches in Greenwood, both south of the river road, and neither matching the photos in the nom form. Ammodramus (talk) 00:25, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
South Dakota: town location issues
[edit]- South Dakota Dept. of Transportation Bridge No. 07-268-030 in Brown County is listed in Hecal: correct to Hecla. Nyttend (talk) 03:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Black Hawk Elementaty School [see spelling issues above] and Ole and Carris Johnson Ranch in Meade County are listed in Black Hawk, South Dakota; correct to Blackhawk, South Dakota. Nyttend (talk) 16:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
- Governor Leslie Jensen House, is NRIS-listed as being in "Hot Spring" when it is located in fact in "Hot Springs" with an S. See Hot Springs, South Dakota. --doncram (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
South Dakota: street address issues
[edit]- Brookings Commercial Historic District in Brookings is listed "Roughly along Main Ave.between the C&NW Railraod and the alley N. Fifth St.": add space after "Ave.", correct to "Railroad", and improve final wording — is it the alley north of Fifth Street? An alley near North Fifth Street? Nyttend (talk) 02:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Holy Trinity Church in Brule County is listed as being "0ff I-90" — change the zero to an "O", from "0ff" to "Off". Nyttend (talk) 03:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Security State Bank in Willow Lake is listed along "Garfeild St": correct to "Garfield". Nyttend (talk) 13:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- J. W. Reedy house (refnum 84000605) in Beresford, Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "304 N. 2nd". The correct address, 309 N. 2nd, appears in the nominating form. Ground-truthing indicates that the house at 304 N. 2nd does not in any way resemble the photos in the nom form, nor does it match the verbal description in the nom form, "southwest corner of Second and Cedar Streets". Ammodramus (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hultgren Farm (refnum 03001536) in Union County, South Dakota, is listed as "17953 309th St." No such address exists in Union County. The site's address appears in the nom form as "47953 309th St." Ammodramus (talk) 18:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
- Pocahontas Schoolhouse (refnum 73001743) in Gregory County has been moved to the city of Gregory, and is now located near the intersection of 5th and Main Streets: see photo including street signs, and sign outside schoolhouse giving history of moves. Ammodramus (talk) 00:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Bon Homme County Courthouse (refnum 84000581) in Tyndall, SD, is at 300 W. 18th Ave., on 18th Ave. between Holly and Ivy Streets. See "Bon Homme County" for address; photos in Commons:Category:Bon Homme County courthouse (Tyndall, South Dakota) for street signs. (Tyndall has apparently changed its street names since the site's NRHP nomination; the nom form gives the address as "Walnut and Washington Streets".) Ammodramus (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Carnegie Public Library of Tyndall (refnum 84000582) in Tyndall, SD, is at 110 W. 17th Ave. See "Tyndall Carnegie Public Library". (Tyndall has apparently changed its street names since the site's NRHP nomination; the nom form gives the address as "State and Main Streets".) Ammodramus (talk) 18:08, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- ZCBJ Hall (Tyndall, South Dakota) (refnum 85000181) is at 1910 Ivy Street. Address "1910" can be see to right of door in this photo. Location on Ivy can be seen in this photo. Tyndall has apparently changed its street names since the site's NRHP nomination; the nom form gives the address as "Nebraska and Washington Sts." Ammodramus (talk) 23:36, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Koobs House (refnum 84003218) in Scotland, Bon Homme County, South Dakota, is listed as being at 431 4th Street; this address appears on the nom form. However, in the nom form for Scotland Residential Historic District (refnum 95001439), its address is given as 631 4th Street; and the street number "631" is visible over the front door in a 2016 photo. Ammodramus (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
- Farmers State Bank of Platte (refnum 83003004) in Platte, Charles Mix County, is listed on the nom form as being at "404 N. Main St." It's actually at 404 S. Main. The correct address appears under the building's 2016 occupant, StarBanks Coffee & Wine, at this Platte business directory. Ground-truthing confirms that in this stretch of Main, numbers increase from north to south. Ammodramus (talk) 02:52, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- H. P. Will house (refnum 02001763) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is listed in the nom form as being at "214 Alene Ave North". As of 2017, the address was 207: the number is visible to the left of the front door in this photo. Ammodramus (talk) 00:48, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- Methodist Episcopal Church of Wessington Springs (refnum 99001582), in Jerauld County, is described as being at "SE Corner of Main and State Street". It's actually at the corner of Main Street and State Avenue: see the street sign in the foreground of this 2017 photo. Also, "corner" should be lowercased; this isn't German. Ammodramus (talk) 13:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- Robert S. Vessey House (refnum 78002560) in Wessington Springs, Jerauld County, is described in the nom form as being at "118 College Avenue". There are two problems with this. First, College Avenue has both north and south addressses; second, the number on the Vessey house is 109 (visible on right side of doorframe in this 2017 photo). The address should probably be "109 N. College Avenue" or "109 College Avenue N." Ammodramus (talk) 02:49, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Wessington Springs Opera House (refnum 76001738) in Jerauld County is described in the nom form as being at "111 Dakota Avenue N." When photographed in 2017, it was found on the even-numbered side of the street. There was no address on the building. This 2017 photo shows the opera house reflected in the window of 109 Dakota Ave. N, across the street. Ammodramus (talk) 03:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- The Martilla-Pettingel and Gorder General Merchandise Store (refnum 85003490) is listed in the nom form as being at 515–516 Main Street. However, the Frederick Area Business Directory gives the address as 312 Main Street (see "Community Store" under "Groceries", second page). A 2017 photo shows the store on Main just east of 3rd Avenue. Ammodramus (talk) 05:57, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
- First State Bank Building (Revillo, South Dakota) (refnum 87000221) in Grant County has its address given in the nom form as "Main Street". The building is at the southwest corner of 2nd Ave and 4th St: see 2017 photo showing street sign. Ammodramus (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
- Singsaas Lutheran Church (refnum 03001070) in Brookings County has its address given in the nom form as "19716 487th Ave". A 2017 photo shows an address marker "19715". This is consistent with "Singsaas Free Lutheran Church" at Association of Free Lutheran Congregations, which gives an address of "19715 487th Ave". Ammodramus (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
dates of significance
[edit]- For refnum 80003721 Hot Springs High School (Hot Springs, South Dakota) the first date of significance given is 1953, but it should be 1925. The building was built in 1925, with additions in 1953 and 1959. (See Historic Preservation Staff; Carolyn Torma (September 1979). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Hot Springs High School / Hot Springs Independent School District 23-2". National Park Service. Retrieved March 15, 2018. With four photos from 1978.). --Doncram (talk) 21:25, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
South Dakota: omissions and exclusions
[edit]- In Hermosa, in Custer County, South Dakota, Hermosa Masonic Lodge (listed February 17, 2009). Not in NRIS-based table however, is this a new NRIS omission?
The Weekly listing at http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20090306.HTM includes:
SOUTH DAKOTA, CUSTER COUNTY, Hermosa Masonic Lodge, W. side of 2nd St., between Folsom St. and Hwy 40, Hermosa, 09000043, LISTED, 2/17/09
Hmm, perhaps the March publication date means it was not included in latest available download. Others in same batch do not appear either.
South Dakota: architects, builders, engineers issues
[edit]There seems to be complete confusion about prominent Sioux Falls architect Joseph Schwarz or Joseph Schwartz (architect), currently the same wikipedia article.
NRIS gives:
- Joseph Schwartz
- Carnegie Free Public Library, built 1903, 235 W. 10th St., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- First Methodist Church, 302 S. Carroll St., Rock Rapids, IA (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Holy Rosary Church, Minnesota Ave., Kranzburg, SD (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Immaculate Conception Catholic Church and Rectory, 102 and 108 E 9th St., St. Helena, NE (Schwartz, Josef), NRHP-listed
- Lyon County Courthouse, 3rd and Story Sts., Rock Rapids, IA (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Pipestone Public Library, 3rd St., SE and S. Hiawatha Ave., Pipestone, MN (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Saints Peter and Paul Catholic Church Complex, 106 W. 889th Rd., Bow Valley, NE (Schwartz, Josef), NRHP-listed
- St. Mary's Church, School and Convent, U.S. 212, Zell, SD (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Washington High School, 315 S. Main, Sioux Falls, SD (Schwartz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Joseph Schwarz
- One or more works in Augustana College Historic Buildings, 29th and S. Summit Sts., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Carpenter Hotel, 221 S. Phillips Ave., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Central Fire Station, 100 S. Minnesota Ave., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- First Congregational Church, 303 S. Dakota Ave., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Jorden Hall, 1101 W. 22nd St., Sioux Falls, SD (Schwarz, Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Madison Masonic Temple, 229 N. Egan Ave., Madison, SD (Schwarz,Joseph,Sr.), NRHP-listed
- Moody County Courthouse, Pipestone Ave. between Crescent and Wind Sts., Flandreau, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
- Vermillion-Andrew Carnegie Library, 12 Church St., Vermillion, SD (Schwarz,Joseph), NRHP-listed
I currently think the correct spelling is Schwarz. --doncram 01:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
About architect George Issenhuth, there are two NRIS errors:
- Brookings City Hall, 4th St. Brookings, SD is credited in NRIS to "Huron, Issenhuth", while it was in fact designed by George Issenhuth of Huron.
- Dairy Building, Off Third St. near the South Dakota State Fair Grounds Huron, SD is credited to "Issenhute,George" which has typo in architect name. Should be "Issenhuth" not "Issenhute". --Doncram (talk) 06:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Sioux Falls National Bank Building, refnum 79002406 in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is listed in NRIS as having been designed by "Weary & Alvord", with typo for the second partner. It was designed by Weary & Alford, an architectural firm that designed some other NRIS-listed buildings. The NRHP document gave the incorrect spelling, and did not give any much coverage about the architects, so the author was probably just unaware of the correct spelling. --Doncram (talk) 20:31, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- St. Wenceslaus Catholic Church and Parish House, in Tabor, South Dakota, is listed in NRIS2013a as having Builder/architect = "Goetz, August O. and Yankton, S. D.". The builder was August Goetz, who was based in Yankton, South Dakota. There is no person named Yankton. --Doncram (talk) 10:37, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Tennessee
[edit]Texas
[edit]Utah
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[edit]Virginia
[edit]Virginia: property names
[edit]- Sessions-Pope-Sheild House in Yorktown, Virginia should be Sessions-Pope-Shield House --sanfranman59 (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:62 Sheild should be spelled Shield
- Actually, it seems it may be "Sheild" after all; sources are split but more for "Sheild" apparently. VA NRHP doc uses Shield in filename but "Sheild" in text. I found a HABS document which used Shield. There are architectural/engineering type drawings in its Commons which use "Sheild". --Doncram (talk,contribs) 04:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- I had started recategorizing, some now at Commons' Category:Sessions-Pope-Shield House may need to be changed back?
- I had moved Sessions-Pope-Sheild House to Sessions-Pope-Sheild House article and changed NRHP county list-article, may need to move back? Someone did move it back. Enough for me. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 20:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- Actually, it seems it may be "Sheild" after all; sources are split but more for "Sheild" apparently. VA NRHP doc uses Shield in filename but "Sheild" in text. I found a HABS document which used Shield. There are architectural/engineering type drawings in its Commons which use "Sheild". --Doncram (talk,contribs) 04:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- There are two sites listed in the NRIS as in "South Boston (independent city), Virginia": Reedy Creek Site and South Boston Historic District. As of 1995, South Boston's official designation changed from independent city to town. It is now part of Halifax County and has no independent government. --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:63-64
- Old Providence Presbyterian Church, in Virginia, is misspelled in the NRIS database as Presybterian. --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:65
- Another typo: Rockinghan County Courthouse in Harrisonburg, Virginia should be Rockingham County Courthouse. --sanfranman59 (talk) 04:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:66
- Thomas Jonathan Jackson Sculpture, in Charlottesville, VA, is listed in NRIS as "Jackson, Thomas Jonathan, Scuplture" The typo is that "sculpture" is misspelled as "scuplture". doncram (talk) 05:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch03:67
- refnum 84003595, Strasburg Historic District (Strasburg, Virginia), has word misspelled as "DIstrict" rather than "District" in NRIS. There is another "Strasburg Historic District" in another state, by the way. doncram (talk) 19:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Tazewell Historic District: Tazewell is spelled Tazewill in NRIS --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Loretto in Wytheville, Virginia: Wytheville is misspelled as Whytheville in NRIS. --sanfranman59 (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fairmount Historic District in Richmond: Fairmount is spelled Fairmont in NRIS (see nom form for correct spelling). --sanfranman59 (talk) 21:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Virginia: county location issue
[edit]- Snowville Historic District is listed in the NRIS database as in Grayson County, Virginia, but it is definitely in Pulaski County. See Pulaski County list at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website. --sanfranman59 (talk) 05:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch05:18
- Woodstock Historic District is listed in the NRIS database as in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, but it is in Shenandoah County. See Shenandoah County list at the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website. --sanfranman59 (talk) 05:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch05:19
- Virginia Can Company-S.H. Heironimus Warehouse: Listed in the NRIS as in Richmond County, Virginia but it's in the independent city of Roanoke. The street address, 315 Albemarle SE, is correct. --sanfranman59 (talk) 20:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Henrico, an archeological site also known as Henricus site, is listed in NRIS as being in Henrico County, Virginia. It seems to be in Chesterfield County, Virginia instead, per an informed editor and confirmed by the Virginia state Dept of Historic Resources' Register Master List, which does indeed show "Henrico (Henricus Site)" as being in Chesterfield County. (summarized from discussion at wt:NRHP, thanks Til Eulenspiegel and Ymblanter, and thanks Andrew Jameson for pointing to the master list doc). --doncram 22:25, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Virginia: town location issues
[edit]- Emmanuel Church at Brook Hill, listed February 3, 2000, located at 1214 Wilmer Ave., in Henrico County, Virginia, is given town location in NRIS of "Henrico". That seems to be incorrectly referring to "Henrico Town", also known as Henricus, Virginia. The NRHP document for the Emmanuel Church only states that it is in Henrico County and does not state a town/village location. It may be in fact in the city of Richmond. Henrico as town location seems incorrect however. Typo: Henrico. Correction: Richmond, or Henrico County. --doncram (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Virginia: street address issues
[edit]- The address for Brooklyn Tobacco Factory in Brooklyn, Virginia in the NRIS is "VA 650 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820". It should be "VA 659 N side, 0.25 mi. E of jct. with VA 820" (see NRHP Registration Form on the Virginia Department of Historic Resources website). --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:36, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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Washington (state)
[edit]Washington: property names
[edit]- Proper name for what is now at Falls City Masonic Hall is under discussion at Talk:Falls City Masonic Hall#article name. SarekOfVulcan identified the likely error, that NRIS "Falls City" in name should be "Fall City" with no S instead, and has provided supporting sources there. I've asked photographer editor Jmabel, who provided statement regarding name discrepancy in photo description, to comment there. --doncram (talk) 21:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Per the discussion linked above, no error -- "Falls City" was the name of the lodge that met in "Fall City", thanks to a typo at Grand Lodge.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Boatman-Ainsworth House, Tacoma, WA, is miss-spelled in NRIS as "Boatman-Ainsworth Hose". NRHP doc at here shows it is "House". --Doncram (talk) 08:47, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Washington: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Some demolished places in Tacoma, Washington. --Murderbike (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- The Holy Cross Polish National Catholic Church in Pe Ell, Washington was demolished in 2010 but is still listed. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 18:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Dockton Hotel was demolished as long ago as 2008, but it still listed. Schazjmd Talk 13:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Washington: town location issue
[edit]- Lilly Kirk House, listed on the NRHP in Bothell, Washington. NRIS spells town incorrectly as Bothel? doncram (talk) 03:33, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch04:29
- Spokane River Bridge at Long Lake Dam, is near Reardan, Washington. Following the NRHP nomination document, https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/95000628_text, NRIS spells as "Rearden". It is wrong in both NRHP doc and NRIS; should be corrected to "Reardan". --doncram 21:28, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
Washington: architect, builder, engineer
[edit]- For Goldendale Free Public Library in Klickitat County, Washington, NRIS gives "Doyle Paterson" as "architect" when the firm Doyle & Patterson is intended. The corresponding TR/MPS document http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/64000892.pdf on Carnegie libraries uses the correct "Doyle & Patterson" firm name, while the "Community Cultural Resource Survey" document at http://focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRHP/Text/82004259.pdf uses incorrect "Doyle and Paterson". The Portland architecture firm is Doyle & Patterson. --doncram 01:31, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
- Wenatchee Fire Station No. 1 was designed by architect Ludwig O. Solberg, who is profiled in its NRHP nomination document. NRIS2013a lists incorrectly as "Ludwig O. Solber" instead. --Doncram (talk) 19:51, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
Washington, D.C.
[edit]Washington, D.C.: omission
[edit]The United States Supreme Court Building is designated a National Historic Landmark with name "Supreme Court Building". At NHL webpage for it], refnum 87001294 is reported. However, it does not appear in the NRIS database at all, based on searching in the Elkman system both by name and by reference number. doncram (talk) 17:00, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Washington, D.C.: demolished but still listed
[edit]I went to take a picture of the Duncanson-Cranch House, located at 468-470 N St., NW, and found only a parking lot in that location. Jeffrey Beall 23:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
- Closing this one out - the house is in Southwest, not Northwest, and has been photographed. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Washington, D.C.: architects etc
[edit]- Auditor's Building Complex lists "James B. Hill" as architect when his name was James G. Hill. Error is not in NRIS data entry but rather in the NRHP nom doc. The nom doc (Historic Preservation Branch, General Services Administration (1978). "National Register of Historic Places nomination: The Bureau of Engraving and Printing / Auditor's Building Complex". and accompanying photos) gets the James G. correct on page 3 however. The person who was head of the Office of the Supervising Architect is James G. . --doncram 18:47, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
West Virginia
[edit]West Virginia: demolished but still listed
[edit]- James F. Murray House in Chester, burned some years ago according to some local residents: see my picture Nyttend (talk) 14:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
West Virginia: street address issues
[edit]- Carnegie Public Library and Simms School Building in Huntington, West Virginia (Cabell County) are listed on 5th St. and 11th St. respectively, when the streets are clearly 5th Ave. and 11th Ave. Nyttend (talk) 21:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch06:22-23
- In Huntington, West Virginia (Cabell County), there are more errors: Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Depot, Elk River Coal and Lumber Company No. 10 Steam Locomotive, and Old Main, Marshall University are listed at "1100 block of 2nd Ave.", "Junction of Veteran's Memorial Boulevard and 11th St.", "16th St., Marshall University campus" respectively; the correct locations are "1100 block of Veterans Memorial Boulevard", "Junction of Veterans Memorial Boulevard and 11th St." [note the removal of the apostrophe], and "Hal Greer Boulevard, Marshall University campus". Nyttend (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- batch06:24-26
- The Mud River Covered Bridge in Milton (Cabell County) is listed as "Off U.S. Route 60 on WV 25 over the Mud River", but its HABS listing says County Route 25, and the picture definitely doesn't look like a state highway. Nyttend (talk) 14:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
West Virginia: town issues
[edit]- Power Plant and Dam No. 4 in Berkeley County is listed as being in the vicinity of "Sheperdstown", but the proper spelling is "Shepherdstown". Nyttend (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
West Virginia: County location issues
[edit]- McClung's Price Place, Lewisburg, WV is in Greenbrier County, not Kanawha County. --sanfranman59 (talk) 16:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
West Virginia: architects and other issues
[edit]- St. Albans Post Office, St. Albans, West Virginia: NRIS has an architect-builder-engineer identified as "Neil A. Melick" when the correct spelling is Neal A. Melick, a Federal government employee who is credited, spelled correctly, in many other U.S. Post Office listings on the National Register. --doncram 17:30, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
West Virginia: property names
[edit]- Ananais Pitsenbarger Farm in Pendleton County is misspelled; should be Ananias. Ntsimp (talk) 19:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Fred A. Perley House in Randolph County is spelled "Perly" in the NRIS. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 20:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Wisconsin
[edit]Wisconsin: miss-filed NRHP docs and/or photos
[edit]- Western Bohemian Fraternal Union Hall of Meadowlands, Minnesota, NRHP-listed with refnum 86002123 has NRHP nomination document filed under that refnum. But photos switched with unrelated SS William A. Irvin, of Wisconsin, NRHP-listed with refnum 89000858.
- Western Bohemian's info is at Liz Holum (December 1984). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Western Bohemian Fraternal Union Hall / The National Hall of Meadowlands". National Park Service. Retrieved March 29, 2018. and five photos (photos filed under wrong reference number, switched with photos for a different NRHP-listed site).
- SS William A. Irvin's info is at "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: SS William A. Irvin". National Park Service. Retrieved March 29, 2018. and 10 photos (photos filed under wrong reference number, switched with photos for another site).
- --Doncram (talk) 04:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Wisconsin: property names
[edit]- Mequon Town Hall and Fire Station Complex, at 11333 N. Cedarburg Rd., Mequon, Wisconsin, listed July 18, 2000, refnum=00000779, is listed in the National Register as "Moquon Town Hall and Fire Station Complex". Typo: "Moquon"; Correction: "Mequon" in name of the NRHP place. Noted by User:Loopygrumpkins. doncram (talk) 03:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Joseph Schiltz Company Brewery Complex, 219 W. Galena St., Milwaukee, listed 12/30/1999: Typo Schiltz should be Schlitz. --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Daniel and Caltherine Ketchum Cobblestone House, 147 E. Second St, Marquette, Wisconsin - her name is likely spelled Catherine [7] Royalbroil 05:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- "Kena Road School" in Marinette County is the wrong name. Based on it's location, it's the Lena Road School. I have a photo to upload. Royalbroil 06:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- I added the image. Lena is a few miles south of Pound on the highway in Oconto County. Royalbroil 03:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Frederick Laue Jr. House or "Frederick Laue Jr. Residence" needs to be the name of NRHP that is listed in NRIS 2010a as merely "Frederick Laue, Jr.". Hmm, it is listed as "Laue, Frederick, Jr., House" in NPGallery listing for it, in 2017. Documents for it: Michael William Dole (April 6, 1979). "State Historical Society of Wisconsin, Historic Preservation Division Survey: Frederick Laue Jr. Residence". National Park Service. Retrieved February 16, 2017. with photo from 1980. --doncram 18:45, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Wisconsin: street address issues
[edit]- Louis Marchetti House in Wausau, Marathon County has the address 111 Grant St. in the NRIS DB. That was correct, but the building has been moved to 921 Grand Ave. For support, see "these minutes". Jeff the quiet (talk) 04:02, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- J. P. Luther Company Glove Factory in Berlin, Wisconsin - address listed as 139 S. Pearl St., I found a vacant lot. Their official website [8] lists their address at 173 S. Pearl St. Royalbroil 05:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- St. Patrick's Roman Catholic Church (Adell, Wisconsin) - address listed is WI 1 when it's located on County Highway A [9]. There are no highways in the state numbered 1. Royalbroil 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Wisconsin: town location issues
[edit]- Holsten Family Farmstead, W1391 Weiner Rd., Columbia, WI, listed September 8, 1992, refnum=92001189: Listed in the NRIS as in Columbia, WI. Per the Wisconsin Historical Society web site, it's in Columbus. [10] The name of the county is Columbia. The town of Columbia, Wisconsin is in Clark County, approximately 130 miles from Columbia County. --sanfranman59 (talk) 02:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hiram Smith House, 336 Main St., Neenah, Wisconsin has a new street address, luckily I drove around until I found it at 343 Smith Street in Neenah [11]. It was clearly identified with the brown Register plaque - looks like the streets' routes were changed with a fairly new bridge in the background of some shots. I have to upload 130 pictures yet (of various types), so the images will be uploaded soon. Royalbroil 12:51, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
- Masonic Temple Building (Viroqua, Wisconsin), is listed in NRIS as being at 116 S. Main St., Viroquoa, Wisconsin, when the town is spelled Viroqua, not Viroquoa. The refnum = 00001469. --doncram (talk) 17:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Pipe Site is listed as northeast of Fond du Lac. While its address is restricted, they mean it is located in/near the community called Pipe, Wisconsin Royalbroil
- Joint Brussels and Garner Dristrict School Number One is listed at 8571 State Trunk Highway 57 and there's a typo in the name "Dristrict" means "District". State highway 57 has been redesigned as a 4 lane highway and rerouted south of the property. The coordinates come up on google maps as 1876 Tornado Road which is where I found it when I photographed it yesterday. It's the only school within miles in a rural setting. The building has been issued a sign to mark it for finding during a fire which says 1876 Tornado Road. Royalbroil 02:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Wisconsin: dates of significance
[edit]- NRIS has wrong dates of significance for four schools designed by architect Henry Wildhagen. The four were listed together, supported by Stauffer, Eugene; Barbara Wyatt; Diane Filipowicz (December 22, 1979). "Henry Wildhagen Schools of Ashland Thematic Resources". National Register of Historic Places Inventory - Nomination. National Park Service. Retrieved February 15, 2017.. The 2010 version of NRIS gave 1899 as a date of significance for some or all, while 1895 was given in a previous version of NRIS (can be seen in edit history of articles citing previous NRIS in infobox). Confusion derives from the thematic resources document noting that the four schools were built in 1895, 1899, 1900, and 1904, according to school records, without distinguishing which (page 5). However, Beaser School was 1899-built (stated on page 4). Ashland Middle School was the "finally produced" one (page 5), hence must be 1904-built. Ellis is "closest in age" to the middle school (page 4), so it must be the 1900 one. Wilmarth is noted to have been built in 1895 (page 3). So the schools and correct dates of construction are:
- Ellis School (1900)
- Ashland Middle School (Ashland, Wisconsin) (1904) (was NRHP-listed but has been delisted)
- Beaser School (1899)
- Wilmarth School (1895)
Wisconsin: architect or builder issues
[edit]- Tripoli Temple at 3000 W. Wisconsin Ave. Milwaukee, WI. It should be Clas, Shepherd & Clas, not spelled as NRIS does as "Clas, Shepard & Clas". Prabook source says Clas, Shepherd & Clas was established with his son and John S. Shepherd as junior partners, and after Shepherd withdrew then it became Clas & Clas. --Doncram (talk) 05:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Wisconsin: demolished but still listed
[edit]- Buckstaff Observatory in Oshkosh, Winnebago County was being dismantled and moving (likely to northern Illinois) as of January 2011 [12]. I luckily had taken photographed them in October 2010. DELISTED in 2012 Royalbroil 01:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Laney School - After being repurposed as a town hall, the town purposely burned it down in February 19, 2011 [13]. Royalbroil 01:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
- I visited the location and it's gone. Just a hole in the ground and the sign that's in the article. The driveway goes to nothing. Here's 2 pictures: 1, 2. Too bad I can't find the photographs that I had taken before the fire. My hard drive was full in 2007 so I had to make room. Royalbroil 02:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- John Johnson Saloon in Eau Claire is apparently gone. A month ago I couldn't find anything old at that address, and the Wisconsin Historical Society's Architecture and History Inventory says it was demolished by 1987. Jeff the quiet (talk) 03:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha Railroad Depot in Eau Claire is also apparently gone. Here too, I can't find a depot near the address given, and the Architecture and History Inventory says it was demolished by 1987. Jeff the quiet (talk) 03:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
- Fountain Inn (Beaver Dam, Wisconsin) is apparently gone according to this local magazine. The owner fought neighbors and the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources after flooding on the Beaver Dam River caused a redesign of downtown Beaver Dam [14] but he eventually lost. I drove to the site on July 7, 2015 and I was able to photograph several other listings in the community. That lot was empty (picture) and there was a lot of construction on the surrounding streets. Royalbroil 04:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- First German Reformed Church in Waukesha should probably be delisted. The pastor says it burned to the ground in 2005 and they constructed a new building, preserving only the old cornerstone. Jeff the quiet (talk) 13:54, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Brin Building in Menasha had a major fire on August 10, 2018. It was deemed unsafe by the city and the owners sold it to the city for $1. They will raze the building and redevelop. [15] Royalbroil 11:13, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- First Congregational Church (Beloit, Wisconsin) should probably be delisted. The WHS link on that page says it burned in 1998 and was razed. The steeple in our 2014 photo is different from the original in the WHS article. -Jeff the quiet (talk) 04:46, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Wyoming
[edit]Wyoming: Demolished but still listed
[edit]- Big Horn Hotel in Arminto, Wyoming (NRHP-listed December 18, 1978, refnum 78002831) was destroyed by fire in 1985, per Casper Star-Tribune newspaper story in 2010. --doncram 06:02, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- DOE Bridge over Laramie River near Bosiser was replaced in 1993.
- EJE Bridge over Shell Creek near Shell was replaced in 2005.
- DFU Elk Mountain Bridge near Elk Mountain was replaced in 2016.
- Saratoga Masonic Hall in Saratoga has been demolished.
- ELS Bridge over Big Wind River near Dubois has been replaced.
- Shoshone-Episcopal Mission near Fort Washakie was destroyed by fire in 2016.
- CQA Four Mile Bridge near Thermopolis was replaced in 1993.
- EFP Bridge over Owl Creek near Thermopolis has been replaced.
- DUX Bessemer Bend Bridge near Bessemer Bend was replaced in 1997.
- Chicago and Northwestern Railroad Depot (Powder River, Wyoming) in Powder River has been demolished.
- EWZ Bridge over East Channel of Laramie River near Wheatland has been replaced.
- CKW Bridge over Powder River near Arvada was replaced in 1990.
- EAU Arvada Bridge near Arvada was replaced in 1990.
- EBF Bridge over Powder River near Leiter was replaced in 1989.
- ECR Kooi Bridge near Monarch was replaced in 2003.
- DDZ Bridge over New Fork River near Boulder was replaced in 1989.
- ETD Bridge over Green River has been replaced.
- Moran Bay Patrol Cabin near Moose was destroyed by a forest fire in 2000.
- ERT Bridge over Black's Fork near Fort Bridger was replaced in 1988.
Wyoming: property names
[edit]- Officer's Club Douglas Prisoner of War should be corrected to Officer's Club Douglas Prisoner of War Camp per its Wyoming State Historic Preservation Office webpage. Nyttend (talk) 03:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Our Lady of Sorrows Catholic Church (Rock Springs, Wyoming) should be listed with "of" in its name, while the NRIS omits it, records it incorrectly as "Our Lady Sorrows Catholic Church". Per its NRHP registration document. --doncram 00:29, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Wyoming: other
[edit]- The DML-Butler Bridge near Encampment, Wyoming is described as being a "cammelback through truss" — proper spelling is "camelback". Nyttend (talk) 16:39, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
- EDL Peloux Bridge was relocated to Buffalo City Park in 1986.
Not yet sorted by state
[edit]Other issues: property names
[edit]- Archeolgical Site No. 142-6, in Piscataquis County, Maine; need to correct the spelling of "Archeological" or "Archaeological", as there's no "o" before the "g". Nyttend (talk) 03:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- In Maine, Coburn, John G. is listed in Elkman and in NRIS's own interface. Presumably this is supposed to be John G. Coburn House or something like that? doncram (talk) 08:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- There are many more like this, many for places including Sr. or Jr. as part of a person's name for whom the house is named after. doncram (talk) 20:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- This is not an NRIS problem. NRIS lists various places with # sign in their names, e.g. "Schoolhouse #6" in Albany County, NY. However, this does not work in Wikipedia article names, one goes to the "Schoolhouse" article. So i have to change it to Schoolhouse No. 6, i believe. doncram (talk) 01:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
- NRIS? / Elkman lists "Van derzee, Cornelius and Agnietje House" on a Van Derzee street in Albany County, New York. I think there probably should be capitalization of Derzee. Am putting into Albany County list as Cornelius and Agnietje Van Derzee House. doncram (talk) 17:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Existing property, once listed, but no longer appearing in NRIS
[edit]- To check what is listed in NRIS, search NRIS here. However, the NRIS user interface does not provide access to all fields or all contents of NRIS, as evidenced by Elkman finding different content (such as delisting info) in 4/2008 download.
- To check what is in Elkman NRHP generator (based on NRIS download as of 4/2008), search Elkman NRHP generator here. However, it seems to be a feature of Elkman NRHP generator not to show delisted entries when search by name, but to show them when search by refnum (which you'd have to know from somewhere else).
- Boston College Main Campus Historic District, still in existence but not on current NPS list. I have found no evidence of delisting. --clariosophic (talk) 20:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I can't find it in NRIS, and searching on "Boston College" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching the Elkman generator on refnum 90000109 finds it there. doncram (talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Masonic Building (Newton, Massachusetts), but not on current NPS list. I have found no evidence of delisting. It is inside Newtonville Historic District, which was added later, so it would be a contributing property in any event. clariosophic (talk) 22:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I can't find it in NRIS directly, and searching on "Masonic" and "MA" in Elkman NRHP generator does not find it, but searching on refnum 86003798 finds it there. doncram (talk) 23:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Delaware and Hudson Depot, in Ticonderoga, New York (different than the other depot at Port Henry in the same county, Essex County, New York). It was not part of the Elkman-county-table-generator output (based on NRIS) and I can't find it by any search within NRIS itself. Elkman's generator is not working right now so i can't check it there right now. I do see it is listed in NRHP.COM's Essex county list, which was based on NRIS as of a certain date. Could it have been delisted? And its nomination document is available as Ticonderoga depot document at New York State's NRHP site here. Is there an anomaly in the Elkman-county-table-generator? But why doesn't it show in NRIS, while it does show in NRHP.COM? Anomaly pointed out by Mwanner doncram (talk) 00:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Elkman's individual NRHP generator, working now, does not show it in searches on "Delaware" etc., but searching on refnum 88002206 finds it there. doncram (talk) 19:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- Claremont Resort in Oakland, CA. It doesn't come out in the Elkman county table generator for Alameda County, but it was listed in the old-style NRHP list (as Claremont Hotel). It doesn't come up when searching by name with the Elkman infobox generator but it does when searching by reference number (03000427). Searching the NRIS at nps.gov for Claremont in CA returns nothing, but I found it in the new listings dated 5/30/2003. Is there a good way to find out if it's been removed for some reason? It seems to me unlikely that it was newly listed so recently and already removed. --Sanfranman59 (talk) 04:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Location issues
[edit]There are some location issues introduced by use of the Elkman county-table generator in our "table-izing" of lists such as List of Registered Historic Places in Suffolk County, New York. For Suffolk County, the Montauk Point Lighthouse shows in the Elkman-table as being in East Hampton, because NRIS shows East Hampton as the nearest city (as is shown also in the Elkman individual NRHP infobox for it). The Elkman-table appears to use best-available location info, which in some cases is the "nearest city". I don't think there is any way to improve upon that centrally; it requires local expertise like DanTD in Suffolk provides to put in a more accurate location into the table, for a specific site. DanTD corrected the lighthouse's location to show as Montauk, New York. Montauk's wikipedia article describes it as a hamlet and a Census-designated place now; perhaps it was even less than that when the lighthouse was listed on the NRHP. I think showing East Hampton in the table, although not precisely accurate, is a better start than providing no location info if NRIS gives only a "nearest city" location. doncram (talk) 00:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Note that any extant lighthouse has exact coordinates available either from the US Light Lists (if active) or from LighthouseFriends. Mangoe (talk) 13:39, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
ships or other objects that have been moved
[edit]- HA. 19 (Japanese Midget Submarine), listed on the NRHP in Key West, FL since 1989, it moved to Fredericksburg, Texas in 1991. Noted by Ebyabe. doncram (talk) 05:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Various ships have moved from one state to another, and the NRHP and the NHL webpages have not kept up necessarily. Some but not all ship moves are recognized in updates to the NHL list. doncram (talk) 05:44, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Roberts Covered Bridge in Preble County, Ohio, moved to a city park a few miles from its original location; see references at county list article. Nyttend (talk) 14:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- USS Hoga, listed in the NRIS as in Oakland, CA, is now part of the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, AR.[16] --sanfranman59 (talk) 23:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- M.V. SANTA ROSA, listed in the NRIS as in Oakland, CA, is now anchored at Pier 3 in San Francisco. [17] --sanfranman59 (talk) 23:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Zippin Pippin was moved during the 2010/11 winter from Memphis, Tennessee to Bay Beach Amusement Park in Green Bay, Wisconsin. It is scheduled to be unveiled in May 2011. Royalbroil 01:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
identified in another U.S. state
[edit]- Albert Smith House, at 289 Wycoff Ave., actually in Waldwick, New Jersey as shown in NRIS coordinates
41°0′44″N 74°8′44″W / 41.01222°N 74.14556°W; listed in NRIS as being in Waldwick, New York (which does not exist) and in List of Registered Historic Places in Allegany County, New York, rather than List of Registered Historic Places in Bergen County, New Jersey. NRHP.COM follows the NRIS error.
- The Ste. Claire (passenger steamboat) is apparently still listed in Detroit, Michigan, although it has been moved to Toledo, Ohio (permanently, I presume, although perhaps not). The Ste. Claire is a Landmark, by the by. Andrew Jameson (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- Blood Run Site is identified in NRIS as located in/near: Sioux Falls, Iowa. I told that Sioux Falls IA does not exist, but that Sioux Falls, South Dakota is close to Blood Run Site. NRIS also shows the site is in/near Shindlar, South Dakota, which is correct. doncram (talk) 02:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Coordinates issues
[edit]UPDATE: NOTE: COORDINATES CORRECTIONS probably are not worth noting here. See discussion at #Connecticut: creoordinates doncram (talk) 06:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
There may be a number of cases where bad coordinates in the NRIS database provided via Elkman's system (which generates starter county tables and the individual NRHP infoboxes) are given, usually due to bad NRIS info, but also perhaps sometimes due to potential glitches in Elkman's merger of NRIS coordinates with other NRIS info. If there are merger errors, maybe the NRIS coordinates file is lacking sufficient detail to support proper mergers, which would be a different kind of error.
- I'm submitting 45 instances of coordinates issues in a batch to the NPS, am noting code numbers for each one submitted. Will report back about corrections made and/or feedback about what is useful for NPS to receive in a report. doncram (talk) 18:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
California: coordinates issues
[edit]- U.S. Court House and Post Office, in Los Angeles, 312 N. Spring St. NRIS coords: 34°3′17″N 124°14′24″W / 34.05472°N 124.24000°W; Google Earth coords for this address: 34°3′18.19″N 118°14′32.93″W / 34.0550528°N 118.2424806°W. --sanfranman59 (talk) 00:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Kansas: coordinates issues
[edit]- Nyttend developed List of RHPs in KS, which reveals bad coords for two KS sites whose flags appear planted in Missouri, instead: Sterling Free Public Carnegie Library and Eugene Ware Elementary School. The NRIS-provided coords for those two must be wrong, or their NRIS location info should report that they are in MO instead. doncram (talk) 02:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- batch02:08-09
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Douglas County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates (or mis-identified county and state) for Witter S. McCurdy House
- batch02:10
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Leavenworth County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates, in another state, for Leavenworth Downtown Historic District
- batch02:11
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Riley County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates (or mis-identified county and state) for Leslie A. Fitz House
- batch02:12
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Sedgwick County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates (or mis-identified county and state) for Farmer's and Banker's Historic District, which shows up in Colorado instead
- batch02:13
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Shawnee County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates for Fred and Cora Luttjohann House, placing it outside the county (or, that the NRIS county info is wrong).
- batch02:14
- Also, National Register of Historic Places listings in Wyandotte County, Kansas reveals apparently bad coordinates (or mis-identified county) for Lake of the Forest Historic District. doncram (talk) 04:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- batch02:15
Kentucky: coordinates issues
[edit]- The Haldeman House in Louisville, Kentucky is listed at 41°36′59″N 85°34′44″W / 41.61639°N 85.57889°W: although the longitude is correct, the latitude places it in far northern Indiana, about ten miles from the Michigan border. Meanwhile, the Engelhard House is listed at 42°44′27″N 85°38′2″W / 42.74083°N 85.63389°W, again a good longitude, but just south of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Nyttend (talk) 00:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:16-17
- The Sears, Roebuck and Company Store in the National Register of Historic Places listings in Downtown Louisville, Kentucky is listed at 39°8′50″N 85°45′1″W / 39.14722°N 85.75028°W. It should be at 38°14′47″N 85°45′54″W / 38.24639°N 85.76500°W. Andrew Jameson
- The Republic Building in the National Register of Historic Places listings in Downtown Louisville, Kentucky is listed at 38°15′38″N 85°45′31″W / 38.26056°N 85.75861°W. It should be at 38°15′2″N 85°45′28″W / 38.25056°N 85.75778°W. (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Maryland: coordinates issues
[edit]- Casselman's Bridge, National Road, in Maryland, is placed exactly on the equator in the Pacific Ocean, midway between mainland Ecuador and the Galapagos Islands. Sounds like an impressive bridge! Nyttend (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:19
Montana: coordinates issues
[edit]- Winnett School in Winnett is listed at 0°0′0″N 115°29′19″W / 0.00000°N 115.48861°W, on the Equator straight south of central Nevada. Nyttend (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
New Mexico: coordinates issues
[edit]- Taos Pueblo is listed at 0°0′0″N 109°29′19″W / 0.00000°N 109.48861°W, on the Equator south of Baja California. Nyttend (talk) 03:30, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Texas: coordinates issues
[edit]- William and Carolyn Bryoles House, Palestine Carnegie Library, North Side Historic District, Gatewood Shelton Gin, John H. Reagan Monument, and Howard House in Anderson County, Texas (east Texas) all list their longitude as 101W. This puts these 6 in the middle of a cornfield in Midland County Texas, about 500 miles away in west Texas. Changing all 6 of these to 95W put all 6 in Palestine, Tx in their proper locations. 25or6to4 (talk) 15:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- batch02:35-40
Virginia: coordinates issues
[edit]- Sessions-Pope-Shield House in Yorktown, VA: current coordinates are 19°34′35″N 77°42′5″W / 19.57639°N 77.70139°W, they should be 37°14′3.36″N 76°30′24.93″W / 37.2342667°N 76.5069250°W (from Google Earth) --sanfranman59 (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:41
- SAVANNAH (nuclear ship) in Newport News, VA: current coordinates are 32°47′18″N 79°54′31″W / 32.78833°N 79.90861°W, they should be 37°8′21.49″N 76°38′35.89″W / 37.1393028°N 76.6433028°W (from Google Earth) --sanfranman59 (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:42
- Black Meadow in Gordonsville, VA: current coordinates are 41°44′55″N 77°59′5″W / 41.74861°N 77.98472°W, they should be 38°10′0.55″N 78°8′32.72″W / 38.1668194°N 78.1424222°W (from Google Earth) --sanfranman59 (talk) 07:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:43
- Gainsboro Historic District in Roanoke, VA: current coordinates are 37°15′23″N 78°38′30″W / 37.25639°N 78.64167°W; based on the nomination form & Google Earth they should be more like 37°16′34.6″N 79°56′31.72″W / 37.276278°N 79.9421444°W --sanfranman59 (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- The Hermitage in Virginia Beach, VA: current NRIS coordinates are 53°23′38″N 76°30′4″W / 53.39389°N 76.50111°W; they should be more like 36°53′19.71″N 76°7′13.29″W / 36.8888083°N 76.1203583°W (from entering address in Google Earth) --sanfranman59 (talk) 04:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Washington, D.C.
[edit]Washington, D.C.: coordinates issues
[edit]- Friendship Baptist Church, at 734 First St. SW, Washington, District of Columbia has NRIS coordinates that place it 10 or 20 miles north in Maryland. Corrected coords are 38°52′54.768″N 77°0′42.9438″W / 38.88188000°N 77.011928833°W while NRIS values which are 39°18′11″N 77°1′27″W / 39.30306°N 77.02417°W. Corrected decimal info from APK converted to dms format by Doncram. doncram (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- batch02:45
Puerto Rico
[edit]Virgin Islands
[edit]wp:NRIS info issues VI or wp:NRIS info issues USVI
Virgin Islands: locations
[edit]- Slob Historic District's location is mis-identified in NRHP document and in separate NPS webpage about it (in the "Travel" webpage series?). Its coordinates are not given in NRIS2013a, which says only that it is near Christiansted (which is correct). Its refnum = 87001929. Slob Historic District was a large sugar plantation. The estate included a factory building, a water mill tower, a great house built around 1750, and a slave village. Slaves were emancipated in 1848, and the estate declined and was largely used for grazing sheep and cattle. There were riots and the plantation was burned in 1878, per "travel" webpage.
- It has also been known as Estate Slob, as Body Slob, and as Slob. NRHP doc: Betty Ausherman; William Chapman; Claudette Lewis (November 10, 1984). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Slob Historic District / Estate Slob; Body Slob; Slob". National Park Service. Retrieved June 3, 2019. With accompanying 26 photos from 1979-85.
- Per "travel webpage ("Slob Historic District". National Park Service. ), the district includes the Great House and five slave cottages from the late 1700s and two from the early 1800s in the slave village. The slave village was the birthplace of Cyril King, the island of St. Croix's first native-born governor. The district also includes the stables and an 1840s factory building.[1]
- It is located north of Centerline Rd., about 6 miles (9.7 km) west of Christiansted, on the east side of a cemetery.
- About location: Both the NRHP document and the NPS webpage state, incorrectly, that the site is 6 miles west of Frederiksted. Frederiksted is on the western coast of St. Croix however and west of it is out at sea. Slob is in fact 6 miles west of Christiansted. Based on sketch map and description of location in the NRHP document, and Google maps identification of "Slob Historic District" (17°43′52″N 64°46′48″W / 17.731119°N 64.779882°W), it is located on what Google Maps terms "Route 69", which runs north from Centerline Rd. (Route 69 may or may not be U.S. Virgin Islands Highway 69 (currently a redlink) in the highways listed at List of United States Virgin Islands highways.) According to OpenSource map, that would be VI 633 (so perhaps U.S. Virgin Islands Highway 663). Adjacent, to the west , is the north end of the large Kingshill Cemetery. The estate was visible from Centerline Rd. when the NRHP document was written, but is obscured by trees by 2016. The tower is directly on Route 69, on the east side of the road, at exactly 17°43′56″N 64°46′48″W / 17.732101°N 64.779879°W as determined by Google Streetview to match photo in the NRHP document. The windmill ruin at top of hill in the estate appears to be the structure at exactly 17°43′52″N 64°46′48″W / 17.731230°N 64.780115°W, which is visible in Google satellite view and is visible by Google Streetview from ground level in housing complex parking lot to the north. The Great House appears to be the structure at exactly 17°43′52″N 64°46′50″W / 17.731012°N 64.780477°W. Google satellite view copyright 2019; Google Streetview imagery captured August 2016, both accessed November 21, 2019.
- --Doncram (talk) 17:37, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Notes
[edit]Table issues
[edit]The Elkman table-generator sometimes omits rows from tables it generates. Why? For example
- Cosman Family Cemetery, an Onondaga County, New York NRHP now included in National Register of Historic Places listings in Onondaga County, New York, does not appear in the table-generator output. The site does appear in the individual NRHP infobox generator though.
- Cosman Family Cemetery is actually in Orange County, New York, not Onondaga County, New York. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 16:06, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, and yes, I was concluding that myself, after putting the coordinates into the Onondaga County list-article and seeing where they pointed to. Have removed from the Onondaga county list-article and confirmed it's covered in Orange County's list-article. And now I can't see why it had appeared the place was in Syracuse or in Onondaga County, and hence why it was included in the Onondaga County list article. Up until earlier today did the NRHP infobox generator show it in Syracuse somehow, but now the underlying data has been changed? I do notice the NRHP.COM system shows it in neither Onondaga County nor Orange County NRHP.COM listings, so I think there is some error within the NRIS data, yet to be corrected there. doncram (talk) 20:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Owner objections, and delistings
[edit]- Kewpee Restaurant, in Allen County, Ohio, appears in the individual Elkman NRHP generator when search by refnum 82005081, but not when search by name, and it does not appear in the Allen county table generator output. Is this another case where the property was demolished and delisted? question raised by Stepshep at, i think, Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Ohio. doncram (talk) 01:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Or perhaps it is listed, erroneously, by NRIS in a different county (so it could also show up in a different Elkman county list-table)? As may have been the case for Cosman Family Cemetery, discussed just above. doncram (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Its listing status is "Determined eligible/Owner objection". In other words, it was nominated, but the owner objected to having it listed on the National Register. I should look into updating the infobox generator to query the listing status. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 02:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- That would be great, to get a status and extra fields of info as appropriate, for owner objection cases. Similarly: delisting cases. I also don't understand how Stepshep got the refnum and hence the infobox for Kewpee. Another owner objection one is Charles Scribner's Sons Building in New York City, which is included in New York State's database but not the Elkman county-table generator (correctly), and correspondence shows it was an owner objection. I don't know its NRHP refnum, if it has one, to generate an individual NRHP infobox for it. The template:infobox NRHP2 could be adjusted to accommodate these (to show an eligible date rather than a listed date, etc.). Also, delisted properties' infoboxes could be adjusted to show a delisting date as well as a listing date. Whether the infobox features are programmed into the individual NRHP infobox generator or not, it is crucial to get a report that at least shows this info, for manual adjustment of an infobox. I'll raise the template programming issues over in the Talk page for NRHP2, now. doncram (talk) 14:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Owner objecton. I'll have to ask around why that was. Should be interesting for the article. Also, I caoun't find anything about objection iin my limited knowldge search of the NRIS. How did you get to that information? Thanks for the help and some really cool tools. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- That would be great, to get a status and extra fields of info as appropriate, for owner objection cases. Similarly: delisting cases. I also don't understand how Stepshep got the refnum and hence the infobox for Kewpee. Another owner objection one is Charles Scribner's Sons Building in New York City, which is included in New York State's database but not the Elkman county-table generator (correctly), and correspondence shows it was an owner objection. I don't know its NRHP refnum, if it has one, to generate an individual NRHP infobox for it. The template:infobox NRHP2 could be adjusted to accommodate these (to show an eligible date rather than a listed date, etc.). Also, delisted properties' infoboxes could be adjusted to show a delisting date as well as a listing date. Whether the infobox features are programmed into the individual NRHP infobox generator or not, it is crucial to get a report that at least shows this info, for manual adjustment of an infobox. I'll raise the template programming issues over in the Talk page for NRHP2, now. doncram (talk) 14:23, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Its listing status is "Determined eligible/Owner objection". In other words, it was nominated, but the owner objected to having it listed on the National Register. I should look into updating the infobox generator to query the listing status. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 02:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Or perhaps it is listed, erroneously, by NRIS in a different county (so it could also show up in a different Elkman county list-table)? As may have been the case for Cosman Family Cemetery, discussed just above. doncram (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I got the refnum from here. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Delistings and NRHP.COM coverage
[edit](copied from wt:NRHP) Is there somewhere that lists or can be searched to find sites that have been delisted (other than looking through each weekly list back to 1996)? I was looking through Waseca County, MN, and noted that on the county's web site [18], they also list 3 sites not in the NRHP listings. When I look at the nationalregisterofhistoricpalces.com site, it does list the 3 sites, complete with listing numbers. Any ideas where I could find more info on these? Ref #s 82005055, 82005054, and 82000564. 25or6to4 (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
- There is a possibility that the properties never were listed to begin with. When a nomination comes into the NPS, it is given its reference number ("refnum") for internal tracking. The nomination can be denied (the paperwork was incomplete, the justification was not strong enough, the boundaries are wrong, etc.) Note even though it was denied, it still it has its "refnum". Somehow NRHP.com picks these up and lists them. One example is Weir Canyon Archaeological District in California - it was nominated, went to the NPS and given a "refnum" and subsequently denied (the boundaries were not justified, and the author did not do enough research into the local Native Americans) yet, it is on NRHP.com! The only way to find out for sure is to contact the NPS and find out (nr_reference(at)nps.gov). Einbierbitte (talk) 16:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
(end copied from wt:NRHP)
- There seem to be changes underway in Elkman's generator... searching on 82005055 gives report now noting listing status = DO, whatever that is, for Eaco Mill, in Minnesota. It should be noted that the first data problem here is that NRIS's own access system does not provide any way to get this info. Specifically, searching on Eaco in MN at NRIS, e.g. trying at this NRIS search screen yields nada. Elkman's interfaces already provide more than is possible to get directly from NRIS. doncram (talk) 18:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Spelling mistakes and other inconsistencies in NRHP database
[edit]I've been asked by User:Nyttend to report some minor inconsistencies in the NHRP database I found as part of trying to determine which sites do not, or should not, have public address information.
As far as I can see from parsing PROPMAIN.DBF (which is in the DETAILS.EXE self-extracting zipfile), there are 88412 records in the database, of which 5143 contain either of the words "address" or "restricted" in their address. Most of these use the exact string "Address Restricted". However, 90 entries use some other variation of this message.
The records with address fields which contain the substrings "address" or "restricted", but not using the exact string "Address Restricted", are as follows (leading/trailing spaces have been stripped from strings):
['REFNUM', 'RESNAME', 'ADDRESS', 'RESTRICT'] ['82005042', 'Upper Shawsheen Railroad Bridge', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80004424', 'Redbud Hollow', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80004411', 'Campbellton', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80004421', 'Jones Mill Run Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80004440', "Union Bryarly's Mill", 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80004431', 'Edgewood', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80003650', 'Kise Mill Bridge Historic District', 'Address Information Restricted.', 'X'] ['84003385', 'Foley, Richard T., Site (36GR52)', 'Address Resricted', 'X'] ['66000342', 'Haskell Institute', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['80001740', 'Natchitoches Historic District (Boundary Increase)', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['75002214', 'Galvez Town Site', 'Address not known', ""] ['75000759', 'Valley Farm Ruins', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['80004701', 'Alexander Chapel Methodist Church', 'Address not given', ""] ['77001647', 'Paris Pike Historic District', 'No address given', ""] ['84003562', 'Woodland Mound Archeological District', 'Address Retricted', 'X'] ['97000789', "Thompson's Island Site (Boundary Increase)", 'address restricted', 'X'] ['97000837', 'Baltimore Mills Historic Archaeological Site', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['73000662', 'Nuuanu Petroglyph Complex', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['82000151', 'Archeological Site (T-6 complex) 50-60-04-700', 'Address Restricted .', 'X'] ['97000911', 'Hog Island--62.23', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000914', 'Holmes Point', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000916', 'Grand Lake Stream Site', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000912', 'Hog Island--62.29', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000915', 'Maine Archaeological Survey site 21.26', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000917', 'Hog Island--62.24', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000913', 'Birch Point', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['97000918', 'Hog Island--62.25', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['74000775', 'Albany Mounds Site', 'Addrss Restricted', 'X'] ['78003573', 'Barlous Lake Archeological District', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X'] ['68000057', 'Desolation Canyon', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['82004191', 'Skeen, William D., House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['71000857', 'Stagecoach Inn', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['66000892', 'Ste. Genevieve Historic District', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['66000424', 'Utz Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['70000329', 'Harley Park Archeological Site', 'Address Restriced', 'X'] ['73001047', 'Hearnes Site', 'Address Retricted', 'X'] ['85003268', 'Tinian Landing Beaches, Ushi Point Field, Tinian Island', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['97000931', 'House of Taga Boudary Increase and Additional Documentation', 'Address restricted', 'X'] ['80002228', 'Prairie Place', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['80002229', 'Forestdale Plantation', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['80002227', "Overseer's House and Outbuildings of Lang Plantation", 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['73000360', 'Indian Mound Park', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['76002300', 'Old Natchez Trace', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['83003813', 'Newkirk State (Site 3lCH366)', 'Addresss Restricted', 'X'] ['80002907', 'Fort Dilts', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['66000598', 'Theodore Roosevelt National Memorial Park', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['85000790', 'Scrabbletown Historic and Archeological District', 'Address Restricgted', 'X'] ['95001269', 'Old Friends Archeological Site', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['73000392', "Fort Smith's Belle Grove Historic District", 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['72000201', 'Frog Level', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['70000122', 'Powhatan Courthouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['66000202', 'Fort Smith National Historic Site', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['77001594', 'Adkins, Homer, House', 'No address given', ""] ['89001971', 'Scott County Courthouse', 'Address Unavailable', ""] ['98000704', 'Sandy Hook Archeological Site', 'Gateway National Recreation Area, Address Restricted', 'X'] ['73002268', 'MacIntosh-Driver House', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['85002731', 'Kodiak Naval Operating Base and Forts Greely and Abercrombie', 'Address unknown', ""] ['85002730', 'Ladd Field', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['78000535', 'Cape Nome Mining District Discovery Sites', 'Address unknown', ""] ['73001155', 'San Jose de la Laguna Mission and Convento', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['74001194', 'Fort Sumner Ruins', 'Addess Restricted', 'X'] ['70000115', 'Old Tubac Schoolhouse', 'Address unknown at this time', ""] ['94000398', 'Lower Zuni River Archeological District', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['70000184', 'Pensacola Historic District', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['69000164', 'Santee Indian Mound and Fort Watson', 'Addres Restricted', 'X'] ['66000711', 'Fort Thompson Mounds', 'Adress Restricted', 'X'] ['87002081', 'Viola Rockshelter (47 Ve 640)', 'Addres Restricted', 'X'] ['78001719', 'Las Vegas Springs', 'Address Restricted .', 'X'] ['80002583', 'Albany Glassworks Site', 'Address Restricted.', 'X'] ['75002164', 'Chatahoochee County Courthouse', 'Address unnkown at this time', ""] ['97001648', 'Bullard--Everett Farm Historic District', 'Address Restrict', 'X'] ['80002942', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""] ['80003212', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""] ['80003206', 'Round Barn', 'Address Information Restricted.', ""] ['71000649', 'Glenford Fort', 'Address Restrocted', 'X'] ['72000247', 'Coachella Valley Fish Traps', 'Restricted Address', 'X'] ['77001613', 'Golden Crown Mine', 'Address Unknown', ""] ['75000452', 'Blythe Intaglios', 'Addres Restricted', 'X'] ['93001017', 'Cedar Avenue Complex', '44843 (44855), 44845 and 44851 Cedar Ave., 606 Lancaster Blvd., and Old Jail (no address)', ""] ['66000627', 'Cherokee National Capitol', 'Restricted Address', ""] ['98001579', 'Landerneau Mound', 'Address Ristricted', 'X'] ['00000263', 'Fort St. Pierre Site', 'Address Resricted', ""] ['01000970', 'Livermore Hotel and General Store', 'Address Resricted', 'X'] ['02000134', 'Lauriston', 'Addriess Restricted', 'X'] ['02000685', 'Sunset Point', 'Address Retricted', 'X'] ['03000919', 'Red River Gorge District', 'Address District', 'X'] ['04001005', 'Government Boarding School at Lac du Flambeau', 'Address restrict', 'X'] ['05000460', 'Amalik Bay Archeological District', 'Katmai National Park and Preserve--Address Restricted', 'X'] ['06000051', 'Redoubt #2', 'Address Restrict', 'X'] ['07000371', 'T Cross Ranch Rural Historic District', 'Address Resticted', 'X']
There may be yet other variants that misspell both words, but I didn't bother to look further: I'm simply going to take the "restrict" flag as authoritative. However, I find "address unknown" rather puzzling; are the NRHP actually saying they don't know where these places are? Or is this a mistake, and they should be flagged as restricted?
There are some other curious inconsistencies: a number of of the records listed above (for example, 80002942 and 00000263) are described as having restricted addresses in their address field, but are not flagged as restricted.
There are also a number of other records which are flagged as restricted which are not listed above, and use a string containing neither "address" nor "restricted" for their address fields. Some of these contain approximate addresses, so I won't list them here.
I hope this helps -- The Anome (talk) 13:51, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it helps very much. I've corresponded with the NPS and shared the above report. Thanks! doncram (talk) 01:42, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Some of those in the list above I'm sure are not restricted, just incomplete. For example:
- Powhatan Courthouse - Address unknown at this time
- Scott County Courthouse - Address Unavailable
I'm willing to bet the addresses of courthouses could be found without too much trouble. Jonathunder (talk) 16:48, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Other
[edit]In correspondence, nr_reference notes that "the Cedar Hill Cemetery [in CT] should have given the associated property as: Northam Memorial Chapel and Gallup Memorial Gateway.... We accidentally put the other name as the "see also" property instead of the historic name." Could watch to see if Northam shows up as See also from the Cedar Hill Cemetery in next version, rather than Cedar Hill Chapel something. doncram (talk) 02:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Columbiana County
[edit]The Burchfield Homestead is located on East Fourth (4th) Street. There is no street named "Forth" in Salem, Ohio, and the original submission to the NR listed the address correctly. OHPO and NR show the address as "Forth," but this is clearly a typo.