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November 27

adding a page

Hi, I just joined on as an editor. I am referenced on many pages on Wikipedia but don't have my own page to link those reference to. Instead, they are credited to someone who has the same name as me. I want to rectify this by adding myself and information on a brand new page. Any advice from folks on how best to accomplish this? Cewal21 (talk) 01:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Based on your question, it sounds like you want to add a page about yourself? If that is correct, please check out WP:AUTOBIO for more information about accomplishing that. TiggerJay (talk) 04:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Cewal21: Hi, Christine. Can you provide a list of those bad links? The ones you added yourself have been reverted, and a cursory look at all of the links to Christine Walters appear to be for the Australian football player. -Arch dude (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

noindex tag found for page, despite no flags/banners

Hello, I have recently published a page under the following link: Matatia Foa'i and it was approved by Wikipedia and published onto the main namespace. The page appears in Wikipedia's internal search results and does not have any visible flags, banners, or issues that I can identify. However, when I checked the source code, I found a noindex tag (<meta name="robots" content="noindex,follow">), which prevents the page from being indexed by search engines like Google. If possible, i would really appreciate knowing why the noindex tag has been applied to this page and what steps I can take to have the tag removed so the page can be indexed. The page is based on reliable and independent sources and meets the notability guidelines to the best of my knowledge. Could someone help me determine why this is happening and how I could resolve it? Thank you kindly for your assistance! Anitanour (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Anitanour new articles are, by default, not indexed by search engines until a new page reviewer has checked it or if 90 days have passed since its creation. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol#Other issues for more info. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Does this mean that it is only a matter of time rather than something that i would have to fix or address? Anitanour (talk) 04:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

There's not much you need to do - the article is currently in the queue and a reviewer will check it sometime soon. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Citation for an edit

I would like to add the name of a distant relative to the Wiki page "Volga Germans", section entitled "Notable people of Volga German descent". This person already has a Wikipedia page, but his name is not on this list. I know only from family oral history that he belongs on this list, his grandfather and my great-grandfather were brothers who emigrated together from Saratov, Russia to Canada in 1907. I have seen their arrival record on the Ancestry website. Other than that, I do not have any official sources I can cite. Is this sufficient citation? kcmeowski (talk) 05:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

It is helpful that the person you want to add already has an article on Wikipedia, however we still rely upon reliable sources to establish these sorts of inclusions. TiggerJay (talk) 05:06, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

In other words, Kcmeowski, we need a reference to a reliable published source that verifies that your relative was a Volga German. Unpublished family oral history is simply not adequate. Cullen328 (talk) 07:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information

Please create a seperate website for senior citizens to upskill and get useful and productive information. 2601:647:4601:A6F0:35B5:775C:6BBC:CDCF (talk) 06:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

If you're asking for a separate website, then English-language Wikipedia, which is where you are, isn't the place to ask. You might try m:Wikimedia Forum, but your request there would have to be a lot more cogent and persuasive than what you've written above. -- Hoary (talk) 07:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is designed for all ages, so it is unclear why you are asking for a separate website. Have you tried the Simple English Wikipedia? Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:14, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

They would be best suited to looking for a job for seniors on Indeed (a search away for that one), not asking for one here. Besides, Wikipedia is not a place for listings. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 14:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

why my edits are not visible on the page??

I recently visit the capcut wikipedia page and there I edited the external link and add the relavent link which was https://capcetapk.com/slow-motion-walk-capcut-template/. But the edit is not updated and showing the previous link. Cletawindler (talk) 09:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Looking at the article edit history(click "View History" at the top) your edit was removed. The editor that did so felt that it was vandalism- I suggest you post on the article talk page to explain the reason for your edit. 331dot (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Even if that edit were not a good one, it is [{WP:NOTVANDAL|not vandalism]] and User:Beachweak should not have referred to it as such. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the editor who undid the edit. At the time this edit looked like vandalism, but obviously it was not and I apologise for jumping the gun. For external links, it's best to consult (WP:ELNO, WP:ELMAYBE and WP:ELYES) in order to ensure future links you add are constructive and contain verifiable research. But, once again, I apologise. Beachweak (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy Thanksgiving 🦃 2600:1700:4FD0:E6D0:F597:27CD:35AC:86FF (talk) 12:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Cletawindler: If this is you, please remember to sign in before you edit or comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Search

I want to do a search. There is no place to enter a search on any page that I could find. Terry W Ryder (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you see a search bar at the top of the page? Or a icon on the top-left? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Special:Search. This is a common topic. Maybe a help-desk FAQ section would be helpful? Departure– (talk) 18:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Use of surname vs maiden name in article body

I’m in a disagreement with another editor at Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (née Carroll) regarding the use of her maiden name in the Early Life section. The other editor used Carroll, citing Hillary Clinton, where Rodham is used for events before her marriage to Bill Clinton. I don't like that inconsistent use of Clinton either, but I assume the reason is that she was notable as Hillary Rodham (due to the size of that article's talk page, I haven’t been able to confirm this) Carroll MacNeill however seems to just be notable under her married name, so I believe that should be used consistently.

It looks like that sort of consistency is mostly noted with things gendered pronouns rather than surnames. Is there something in the MOS that I'm missing, or is there not really a specific rule or suggestion for this kind of scenario? LaffyTaffer (talk) 20:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Why not have a look at MOS:NAME? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 20:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I must be missing something there, because I'm only seeing guidelines for the initial mention in the lead, not for how a subject is referred to later on. Even MOS:SURNAME doesn't seem to address things like maiden names as far as I can tell. LaffyTaffer (talk) 20:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

See WP:MAIDEN. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 20:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That's only describing practices for article titles, with a link back to the MOS LaffyTaffer (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Another editor has removed the subject's surname entirely from that section to avoid the disagreement, however I'm still interested to know if there's a guideline to this. I've just looked at Muhammad Ali and seen that he's referred to as Clay for events from before his name change, so I'm very likely wrong here(I expected as much which is why I'm here rather than the article's talk page), however it seems strange to not talk about article subjects using a consistent name throughout, and I'd rather not use WP:OTHERSTUFF as the sole justification. LaffyTaffer (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

There's no reason to be consistent about a subject's name, when they themselves changed it. Before she changed her name, she was born and grew up as Jennifer Carroll, so she should be referred to by that name. Only after she became Jennifer Carroll MacNeill should she be referred to as MacNeill. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:05, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Then I suppose then this just boils down to a personal preference of mine that's coloured by related but irrelevant guidelines like MOS:GID. I don't like it, but there seems to be a precedent to alternate between names as needed. Thanks. LaffyTaffer (talk) 22:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)