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[edit]Close captions aren't appearing on a page despite adding content to it's time text page
[edit]I recently attempted to add lyrics for the audio sample on the Big Bang Baby page, despite adding lyrics to the page it redirected me to, the page still says no text track is available. I wasn't sure if it was a sample page (basically a page similar to a sandbox), so I tried creating a new page that follows the correct naming format, but I am unable to move it.
XNanoWarriorx (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/ - Please delete this page/link
[edit]Dear Wikipedia Editor/ Help Desk,
I am hoping you will be able to kindly assist and help.
This link was created as a result from a wikipedia entry back around 2007-9 and is still coming up in Google with incorrect information.
Can you please source the link and delete the content please and page link entirely.
The link that needs deletion is : https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/
thank you for any help available.
§ Margiejprice (talk) 00:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Margiejprice, we don't have any control over a site outside of the Wikimedia project, and as far as I can tell there was a discussion about the article's deletion back in 2011. You'd have to get in contact with enacademic. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- See WP:Mirrors and forks as to our overall policy on sites like this. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 01:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
. Appreciate your help and swift reponse guys thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margiejprice (talk • contribs) 01:30, 19 November 2020 (UTC) Margiejprice (talk) 01:33, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Or to elaborate a little on what Tenryuu writes: You, Margieprice, are talking about a page on "enacademic.com". That website regurgitates material that is, or has been, on Wikipedia (and much else); however, it's completely out of the control of the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization that runs Wikipedia. Incidentally, you're talking about a "link" when you probably mean a "page"; if you did ask Google to "delete a Wikipedia link to" that page, or similar, then that would explain why Google sent you here. -- Hoary (talk) 00:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Whois suggests that "enacademic.com" is Russian. I'm not an expert in interpreting Whois information; perhaps somebody more knowledgable can infer more than I can. -- Hoary (talk) 01:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- They are using "Privacy protection service - whoisproxy.ru" -- which means that they can be anywhere.
- Margiejprice can write a letter to:
- enacademic.com C/O whoisproxy.ru
- PO box 99
- Moscow RU 123308
- This is unlikely to work, but it is cheap to try.
- Margiejprice can also send four separate emails to:
- enacademic.com@whoisproxy.ru
- webmaster@enacademic.com
- abuse@enacademic.com
- postmaster@enacademic.com
- This is also unlikely to work, but costs nothing to try.
- Margiejprice can also send four separate emails to:
- I advise Margiejprice to get help wording the letter and the email. If it is anything like her initial post here then even if she reaches enacademic.com they are unlikely to undersand the request -- especially if English is not their primary language. --Guy Macon (talk) 08:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- According to https://www.accessify.com/e/enacademic.com# the following domains share IP adresses with enacademic.com
- enacademic.com
- omniglot.com
- askdavetaylor.com
- thewindowsclub.com
- soapcentral.com
- I suspect that they are unrelated. No similarities that I can see.
- According to https://www.ip-adress.com/website/enacademic.com they are using an Amazon server in Germany (amazon sells hosting services, so this is nout unusual.)
- Margiejprice can try sending a letter to the address in Germany listed on the above site.
- --Guy Macon (talk) 08:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- In 2012, before the site started using the privacy service, the listed owner was "Mark A Adamenko".
- According to https://domainbigdata.com/gmail.com/mj/X3-SYhEMVyV-mbKM1SmU5w his contact info (still published in the public WHOIS of fourteen domains, so no privacy issues posting it here) is:
- Mark A Adamenko
- Zemlyanoy val, 14/16, 77
- Moscow RU Russian Federation
- mark.adamenko@gmail.com
Thank you everyone and Guy also. We would appreciate some help if you think we need to make my request with certain terminology when contacting them. Otherwise we appreciate all the help. Trying to find a contact address to request page deletion has proved very troublesome. Margiejprice (talk) 13:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC) MargieJ
I would word it like this:
- Hi! I am [your real name]. Your page at https/www.example.com [make sure you get the right URL. Check it three times.] has wrong information about [name of person the page is about]. The editors at Wikipedia told me to ask you to update it or delete it. Tthanks! --[your name and email address].
The reason that I emphasize getting the right URL is because you wrote the following above:
"The link that needs deletion is : https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/"
No it isn't. you posted the wrong URL. they can't fix the problem if you do that.
Also, send actual letters, not just emails. Most people ignore emails but actual letters get attention. And hand letter the address on the envelope so it looks less like junk mail. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Is it common practice to use racial slurs on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.49.176.39 (talk) 02:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not censored. If the use of racial slurs is necessary to understand the article, they will most likely be used for academic reasons. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:17, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Deleting paragraphs of an article because of poor placement?
[edit]Link to what I'm referring to.
Hi, I was recently involved in a bit of a disagreement with another editor as to how poorly placed but well-researched content should be treated. I was (and still am) of the opinion that a courtesy comment on the talk page after the deletion or in most cases moving the content yourself into an appropriate section should be the action that you should take. I'm just wondering if my argument lines with Wikipedia's policies, as I see both points but (maybe due to bias as I'm the one with the opposing opinion) I still believe that deletion without notification or discussion goes against the spirit of Wikipedia? Please note I'm not trying to direct attacks to or harass the editor by posting this, I'm just wondering whether the case I made is valid? I would have posted this in disputes but since I also agree that the placement was bad, I didn't think it fitted there. Regards, Hunter 02:57, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- (revised comment) This is the edit that started this. [[1]] Basically an IP editor removed a chunk of text without leaving an edit summary and you reverted it. I would have done the same. It was unexplained removal of text, which is frowned upon, especially by IP editors. I would then ask him to add an edit summary. If they persist without discussion, the IP address can be blocked. Hope this answers your question. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 08:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot! Hunter 11:30, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
WP: List of Controversial Issues
[edit]How do articles get added and removed from https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_controversial_issues? Thanks. Rohan608 (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Rohan608: Unlike Category:Wikipedia controversial topics, which is autogenerated by adding the "Wikipedia controversial topics" category to the bottom of an article, the list entries are added and deleted manually. It may appear to be redundant, but just using the category tag in an article won't properly sort these articles by topic. The page watchers keep things from getting out of hand. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 08:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
ThanksRohan608 (talk) 04:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
BLP under musical groups/bands members section
[edit]Is including table consisting of Stage Name, Birth Name (Romanized and other language related if applicable), Date of Birth, Nationality, Position/Roles column inside musical groups/bands members section violating Wikipedia:BLP? There is additional last column for the inline citation to ensure Verifiability. I can't find any guidelines on that topic hence I need clarification as other Wikipedian say it is violating Wikipedia:BLP and including such information is consider off-balance. The article in question that i'm talking is located here, https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Aespa_(group)&oldid=989457393, it is no longer the latest version because as mentioned above others keep saying it violated this and that.
Adding on the reason for not having these information created as individual members article is because there's lack of content currently to expand beyond the lead section and infobox.
Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 04:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
article
[edit]hello my name is flower.i published an article under the title Yugyeom today. but im confused as i couldnt see it.is it accepted? how long will it takes for you to publish it? why cant i have the access to my own article? at the top on the left side, theres a box to either project page and talk or user page and tallk. how can i access to article? i dont get it. i need explanation. once again.
I PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE UNDER THE TITLE YUGYEOM. CONNECTED TOA BOY BAND NAME GOT7. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKES FOR MY ARTICLE TO BE PUBLISH/ ITS JUST A BIOGRAPHY.NO HATE OR INAPPROPRIATE CONTENT AT ALL. PLEASE RESPOND. I NEED ANSWERS.
THANK YOU,
FLOWER. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flowergirldandelion (talk • contribs) 09:11, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- The reason on why you're not seeing the article is simply because you didn't remove the Wikipedia:Redirect tag at the top, however I have reverted your edit because the article doesn't meet Wikipedia:SINGER and Wikipedia:BLP requirements. Even if I didn't revert your edit, someone else will do so, simply because it doesn't meet the mentioned requirements. Paper9oll | Talk:(Paper9oll) 09:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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Courtesy link: Yugyeom @Flowergirldandelion: Unfortunately, you edited a redirect and saved it before before your content was ready to publish. The redirect page has red warning text about this. An article about Yugyeom will need better sources. If you look at the other Got7 members, you'll see their articles have better sources. I think you should spend more time improving the article draft in your sandbox. You can open your sandbox by clicking on the sandbox link on the upper right of your screen next to your user name. When you think the draft is ready, come back here and let us know and we can review and help you publish it if it is ready. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 09:34, 19 November 2020 (UTC)- @Flowergirldandelion: I moved your user draft from your main user page to User:Flowergirldandelion/sandbox.
Can anyone help correct my entries below to the page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Police_and_Criminal_Evidence_Act_1984
[edit]Can anyone help correct my entries below to the page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Police_and_Criminal_Evidence_Act_1984
In the case of Christopher James Miller v Director of Public Prosecutions (2018) <ref>[2] <ref> Mr.Miller’s conviction for drug driving was revoked because West Midland Police had breached Code C of PACE by not providing him with an appropriate adult despite him telling officers that he had Asperger and being aware from his previous interactions that he had Aspergers.
IPC C Investigation 2012/011560 - A breach of Code C of PACE occurred in 2012 when a vulnerable 11 year old girl Child H with a neurological disability similar to autism who was denied an appropriate adult by Sussex Police after she was arrested on 4 separate occasions for minor offences between February and March 2012. Sussex Police referred the complaint to IPCC and accepted the IPCC recommendations, <ref>[:https://policeconduct.gov.uk/recommendations/recommendation-sussex-police-february-2016]<ref> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.209.191 (talk) 12:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Done
- The change made: Special:Diff/989517324.
- The result: Special:PermanentLink/989517324#Case law. --CiaPan (talk) 12:55, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Translation tool - how to get rid of it?
[edit]I went to Special:ContentTranslation to see what it was, and now I've got an annoying drop-down when I point to "contributions" at the top of any page. How do I get rid of it please?
- It's OK - preferences -> beta features. DuncanHill (talk) 14:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Need Help Finishing proper Wiki format fpr page
[edit] Courtesy link: Draft:Alexander Jackson Maier
Hi guys, I created a page but I do not have publishhing power. I was able to fill out a lot of information at it *looks* like Wikipedia format, but I need an editor to finalize the small details and publish.
-Joshua — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faits1789 (talk • contribs) 15:09, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Faits1789: It appears that while the draft hasn't been officially approved or declined, a reviewer has noted some issues with it that should be addressed, particularly Maier's notability as an actor. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
All the review needs to do is read The New York Times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faits1789 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Faits1789: Removing legitimate review comments with edit summaries susch as "Irrelevant trolling again" and then the following bizarre statement "Called the issuing office in St. Lucia and information confirmed. Any change after should be evidence specifically against the firsthand evidence. Two spokespeople confirmed the significant detail" is not helping your case. Information about the honour may belong in a different article about the award itself but not in this one. Please review WP:NACTOR and demonstrate how this person passes those guidelines. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Already confirmed, thank you! I don't need any more advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faits1789 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Faits1789: Presumably your 'confirmed' comment refers to the information about the award which does not belong and it seems you have now removed. The second quote in my post above was of your edit summary when again removing the review comment. The ES was at best misleading and bore no relation to the actual edit. You have asked for advice and help and now you are not taking heed. And you have removed the comment a further time. If you continue disrupting the review process you may lose editing privileges. *Again* (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). Eagleash (talk) 18:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
HELP!!!
[edit] Courtesy link: Sarajane Hoare
I am trying to adjust an incorrect & derogatory post that was creating by someone I do not know I make the edits & 2 minutes later it reverts to the page I disagree with. This is personal & professional information about Sarajane Hoare, how is this possible???? How can I make changes or have the whole entry deleted?
Thank you!
Sarajane Hoare SAUSFRUK (talk) 15:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SAUSFRUK: The reason why people have been reverting your edits is that you're removing content that is reliably sourced from secondary sources. Also, while editing an article about yourself is not prohibited, it is strongly discouraged, as your edits have made it sound promotional, which Wikipedia does not do. If you wish to propose changes, please do so on the article's talk page with edit requests. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:50, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the reply, I am not a computer illiterate person but have NEVER seen anything so complicated ... Not even sure you'll receive this reply! How can I have the page deleted? The information is incorrect & derogatory, would rather have nothin than false info! How is this actually even legal in this day & age? i am not an administrator but no longer wish to appear on Wikipedia at all in this case. Please advise, thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SAUSFRUK (talk • contribs) 16:17, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SAUSFRUK: Get the page deleted? You can't, if it is well-sourced in publicly available, secondary sources. This is what Wikipedia is for: to gather and present a common knowledge. This is legal these days. If you disagree with the article's contents, find WP:RELIABLE sources that show something contrary to the article. Then add lacking or more precise information with references to those sources (or better, propose appropriate edit at the article's talk page). --CiaPan (talk) 16:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SAUSFRUK: See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Article_subjects#How_can_I_get_rid_of_the_article_about_myself_or_my_company? and other questions in that FAQ]] Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
How to update "Official site"
[edit]Hi. The page Dev-C++ has a long history. The "old" official site www
- Hello, Peter1. {{Official website}} is one of the templates that draws its information from Wikidata: pick "Wikidata Item" from the sidebar of the article, and you can edit it there. But in my opinion, worrying about this is like cleaning the windows of a house that is about to fall down. Unless enough independent published sources are added, the article does not establish that the subject is notable, and it is likely to get deleted. --ColinFine (talk) 17:18, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Diets and vegan activism
[edit]Out of scope for the help desk. Go to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Creating_a_carnivore_diet_page
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I'm interested in making an article about the carnivore diet, yet all I see here is pointing to the fact that even if I write one it will be removed because of vegan activism on wikipedia. For example, I just edited a carnivore disambiguation page to remove the word "fad" from "... a fad diet..." which immediately got unmade by a username that is a vegan activist. The word fad is a qualitative descriptor and as such has no place on an objective site.The editor called it nonconstructive to remove biased wording. I see a lot of vegan activism here, not only for the amount of different articles about the vegan diet https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Veganism https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Vegan_nutrition https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_country https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Vegetarian_cuisine https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Vegan_studies and so on and on. Also a lot of diets that are not in line of vegan propagandist here get called fad diets(which is funny since veganism by their own definition is a fad diet that didn't exist before 19th century, no society was even vegan in human history), edits are added with questionable sources to discredit them and a lot of other things. So, should I start writing or is it pointless? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustANameInUse (talk • contribs) 18:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
This is a bit too much drama for a help desk. Please discuss at the administrator's noticeboard discussion. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:30, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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Category:Taylor & Francis academic journals
[edit]On the page Category:Taylor & Francis academic journals when I click on "A" I get B through J and when I click on "B" I get C through J. "C" gives me D through J, and "D" gives me E through L.
"0-9" gives me A but the "previous page " link works and brings me to Écoscience for some reason.
"W" gets me X and "X" gets me "There are no pages or files in this category".
--Guy Macon (talk) 19:50, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Guy Macon: This should resolve itself in a few days. A software change is being installed behind the scenes - see here and here for discussion. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
bias
[edit]I would donate to you guys but it seems you are biased so I don't — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.69.183.43 (talk) 20:44, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- There are millions of articles here and thousands of volunteers with different biases, but somehow it works. If you have issues with any of the millions of articles, you are welcome to open a discussion on the article's talk page to see if you can convince others that you are right. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:14, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Add to a page or make a similar one
[edit]Hello, I and many othes have lots of photographs of Cornish mines and engine houses. There is a Wiki page already - Mining in Cornwall and Devon.
The above is a general run around about mining in the Southwest.
I want a page (maybe called Cornish Mines), where people can upload pictures, articles etc. on each individual mine in Cornwall. Can I set up a new page and link it into the one above, or a totally new page?
Thank you for your help Tracy Elliott — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracyclimber (talk • contribs) 21:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Tracyclimber. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which contains articles which are summaries of what reliable sources say about notable topics: a gallery of pictures would not be appropriate, unless it was attached to an article, say about Cornish tin mines. However, assuming that you and your friends hold the copyright to them, or that they are old enough to be in the public domain, then you are very welcome to upload them to Wikimedia Commons, where they would be a resource that can be used in any Wikimedia project; for example in articles about the towns where the mines were. Many Wikipedia articles have a template such as {{Commons}} or {{Commons category}}, which draws readers' attention to the existence of relevant materials in Commons. --ColinFine (talk) 22:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know what their policies are, but maybe Wikipedia's sister project Wikivoyage would be more appropriate? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Tracyclimber: you can also create a new article fro any mine that is itself notable by our definition (i.e., at least several separate feature articles in independent reliable sources). See WP:N. -Arch dude (talk) 02:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
I am Councilman Jay H. Banks' Chief of Staff and I am submitting his official biography.
[edit]The Councilman has asked that I edit his official page — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLewis4Banks20 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have moved this to Draft:Jay H. Banks, but of course it has no chance of being accepted as an article, not only because it is so poorly written and promotional, but because there is no evidence anywhere in the puff piece that councilman Banks is notable enough to merit an article in a global encyclopedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- @JLewis4Banks20: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's policy on paid editors. You should not directly edit the page directly, and instead suggest edits on the article's talk page through edit requests. You should also disclose your affiliation with the subject on your user page. You may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- The draft is a copy-paste and I will tag it as such. We do not accept content lifted wholesale from another site. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 00:03, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note that there is no such thing as an "official page" on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia which is free to edit by anyone. No one has any sort of "official" claim to any article. Most prominently, this includes the subjects of the article. Just because Councilman Jay H. Banks is the subject of the article doesn't mean he has any sort of ownership or authority over the article. On the contrary, the councilman, you, and anyone else closely related to him should avoid editing the article at all. JIP | Talk 02:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Update: The draft has been deleted by Ponyo. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:17, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Ive been asked for a donation but I cant even acess my account!
[edit]Hi.
I would donate and did before but no point when I cant access my account. Anybody help? Thank you. Pat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8085:B13F:4C00:B943:14B3:5352:FEC4 (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for considering donating to help spread the world's knowledge. If the password recovery feature doesn't work, you're better off just starting a new account. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:23, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Donations are completely voluntary and entirely unrelated to accounts. You can donate to Wikipedia without ever having used Wikipedia at all, but that's up to you. If you do not want to donate to Wikipedia, then you are free to just not to. JIP | Talk 01:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Can't find a wikilink on a page
[edit]According to this there is a link on List of urban districts formed in England and Wales 1894–95 to the redirect page Urban District. I want to correct it to point to Urban district (Great Britain and Ireland) but I'm buggered if I can find it. Can anyone help? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Cowpen UD?
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 00:04, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Trappist the monk: Well spotted! Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2020 (UTC)