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April 6

Infobox image syntax

Hi,

I am trying to add an image to the typebox of the page "Tommy Nelson (Actor)" - https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Tommy_Nelson_(actor) but it has my caption on the side of the image instead of below. Could someone please fix it and let me know what I did wrong so I can correct it myself if this were to happen again? Thank you.

Sincerely,

Slasher2point1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slasher2point1 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done MB 01:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for doing that! I greatly appreciate it.

Sincerely,

Shaun Ryan

In ref 1 - the quote - there should be a gap between the words Shawn and umpire. Please do this. I cannot. Thanks 175.32.219.132 (talk) 02:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I just removed the quote as unnecessary. MB 02:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

AFC Submission codes

(Re-posted to generate response}

Where is the full documentation for {{AFC submission}}, for example, explaining how to generate and interpret cv-cleaned| u=... |ns=... , and where is the wiki markup generated by these parameters stored, so I can de-lint it or at least request others to de-lint it? —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:20, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: cv-cleaned means copyright violation cleaned up. It's made manually. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions#Step 1: Quick-fail criteria. Expand the box and then expand "Copyright cleanup instructions". The text produced by this and many of the other parameters is in {{AFC submission/comments}}. | u=... |ns=... is the submitting username and the namespace number, added automatically by {{subst:submit}}. I don't know whether it's documented. If you say the linter issue then maybe we can give better help. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: Thanks, but as I asked before, "where is the wiki markup generated by these parameters stored"? For example, the markup generated by cv-cleaned includes <p>[[File:Symbol opinion vote.svg|20px]] This submission has now been cleaned of the above-noted copyright violation and its history redacted by an administrator to remove the infringement. If re-submitted (and subsequent additions do not reintroduce copyright problems), the content may be assessed on other grounds.[[Category:AfC submissions cleaned of copyright violations]]<kbd></kbd>, and has a missing end tag for <p>. —Anomalocaris (talk) 05:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: A search in the Template namespace reveals that this text comes from Template:AFC submission/comments. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:59, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

John of Reading: Thanks! —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:16, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

IP user creating "articles" on Redirect pages

As far as I know, unregistered users can only start a new page with AfC. However, this IP (47.147.132.20) seems to be creating articles on redirect pages (like this).

I'm not really sure what the protocol would be here (IPs can't/shouldn't start articles on redirect pages, right?), and I was going to leave a message on their talk page. Should I just rollback their edits and leave them a message that they can retrieve their text from the edit history, and that in the future, they need to go through AfC to create an article unless they're a registered user? Is there a different action I should take instead? They have multiple "articles" they've already started to create on redirect pages. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

FWIW the Wiki F1 project had a similar problem with a dynamic IP user with over 250 addresses by the time they'd finished. Where notability was achieved we would 'fettle up' the articles but if not (99% of the time) then we'd restore the redirect and leave hidden advice to not start a page at the location without beginning a discussion at the relevant project TP. 'ANI' weren't interested in someone starting sub-standard articles (their editing skills were low at best) however disruptive they were overall. It took 2 years before they tripped themselves up and were blocked. There seems little to stop IPs doing this and / or requesting a redirect and then creating an article. Eagleash (talk) 06:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

User:Hoary has already reverted some of the pages, so I've reverted the rest. I've left the rest of the IP's contributions untouched. JIP | Talk 10:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The user is quite persistent. I've reverted and warned them. -- Hoary (talk) 06:21, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you all! I left additional explanation on their talk page because it seems they have reverted one of their edits again. I appreciate all of your help. - Whisperjanes (talk) 05:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Editing

I have edited my wikipedia profile 2-3 times and the corrections are published,but when i search about my profile after 6-7 days,My editings are cleared and my profile remains the same as it was before edit.I want this issue to get resolved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:205:0:804:0:0:1156:E8A0 (talk) 09:35, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

If you are referring to an article about you(Wikipedia does not have "profiles"), it's hard to help without knowing what the article is. There are no other edits from your IP other than the above, if you have an account, please log in before posting. Without knowing the article, I can only say that article subjects should not directly edit the article about themselves, but they may propose changes on the article talk page as formal edit requests. Please read the autobiography policy as to why editing about yourself is not advisable. 331dot (talk) 09:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Profile approve help

would you please help me. why did you delete my Profile Mohammad Anamul Haque Nayan? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Md Anamul Haque Nayan (talk • contribs) 10:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia is a collaborative effort to create an encyclopedia. It is not a a free webhost, nor a place to publish your resumé. Please keep that in mind when editing. Thanks. Kleuske (talk) 10:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Md Anamul Haque Nayan I would add that there is not a single "profile" on Wikipedia. That is a social media term. Wikipedia has articles. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a social media site with profiles. It is an encyclopedia with articles on subjects which satisfy the requirement of notability. It also has user pages for users who want to describe their role in editing Wikipedia. The reason for the deletion of your user page was explained to you at User talk:Md Anamul Haque Nayan#Speedy deletion nomination of User:Md Anamul Haque Nayan and in the log file at User:Md Anamul Haque Nayan. While you are here, what is your connection to user Anamul Haque Nayan? --David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello Wikipedia. At first, take my sincere respect.

Md Anamul Haque Nayan and Anamul Haque Nayan are the same person. I'm publishing my profile. And added my contact reference. Please check and publish.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Md Anamul Haque Nayan (talk • contribs) 13:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

You may not publish your profile on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopdia, it does not accept profiles. You can use a site such as Facebook, where user profiles are welcome. Maproom (talk) 16:53, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Question about a page comparing most Web Conferencing Software (programs/apps) people can choose from: ------>

Here is the page I am referring to: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software

I simply wanted to finding that compared ALL of the options we Americans have to choose from ... But then I did not see one called "Doxy.me" ------> https://doxy.me

And so I am wondering if you can please ADD this viable option to your list of choices presented?

And if this is something that only I can initiate, then what are the steps to do so ...

I was hoping that your team there could make the addition if I pointed out that it was a missing element of that page.

Thanks for letting me know how these types of content evolutions are made there at Wikipedia.

Drew (near LA, CA) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.155.243.69 (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Wikipedia, being an encyclopaedia which has well-sourced articles on notable subjects, is not a good resource as a buyers guide. If the system you refer to meets Wikipedia's standards of notability, then an article could be written about it, and it could be added to that comparison article. --ColinFine (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Where to ask?

I asked a question on here on WikiProject Countries. However, that WikiProject doesn't seem to be active since the last few questions haven't receive a response. Where would be another place to ask this question? Interstellarity (talk) 12:47, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Interstellarity, I'd either go up the chain and ask at the the Wikipedia:Village pump (policy), or maybe try at Template talk:Infobox country. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 15:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Alex Noble: Asked at WP:VPP. Interstellarity (talk) 16:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Manoj Sarkar

Hi, Manoj Sarkar is world top Para-badminton athlete. When I googled i couldn't find his article. Will you Please guide me on it? Sukant Kadam (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Sukant9993

@Sukant9993: It is at Manoj Sarkar. It will not be indexed by search engines for 90 days or until it has been reviewed, whichever is the shorter period. Eagleash (talk) 13:22, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Sukant9993. Did you think that by asking that disingenuous question nobody would notice that you are asking about an article that you yourself created two days ago? Manoj Sarkar is an example of exactly why new articles are not indexed by the (utterly irrelevant to Wikipedia) search engines until they have been reviewed by a new pages patroller. He may well be notable, and the if so the article could be made acceptable if it cited some significant sources: if you had created it as a draft, and submitted it for review, I believe it would have been declined, and somebody would have advised you how to bring it to an acceptable level. But at present it is one of the many thousands of substandard articles which beset Wikipedia.

Rather than worrying about google search, I suggest you spend some time finding some reliably published independent sources which have substantial coverage of Sarkar, without which his notability is not established, and the article is likely to get deleted. --ColinFine (talk) 13:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Sukant9993: Do what Colin advised. But first take a look at Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). -Arch dude (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

question re template effects

hi. what happened at this page? User talk:239hollie1991? I tired to insert a Welcome template, but for some reason, it is displaying the documentation data. there is no reason that I can see that it should be doing this. can you please advise? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 12:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Sm8900: It seems to be be fixed; can't tell immediately what the issue was but similar things are often caused by using just {{welcome}} instead of {{subst:welcome}}. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:17, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

{{Welcome-t}} was broken today by removing a <noinclude> before the documentation.[1] I have restored it.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

hi. well, that's good to know. I appreciate the help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 22:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Teacher

Good evening, I'm a teacher and I'm using We School in this days of Covid 19. I'd like to know if it's possible to delete private chat, in order to have more space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.7.85.187 (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

This page is for asking questions related to Wikipedia editing. You could try the Reference Desk, but you might be better off contacting your school administration or IT person, or the company that operates We School. 331dot (talk) 16:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Making a new page

I made a page but it was deleted and there is no record of it online. Is there a way to reinstate it or someone to reach out to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyassist (talk • contribs) 19:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Joyassist If you are referring to Draft:Joy Gorman Wettels, you may visit WP:REFUND for more information on retrieving the text. If you are the assistant of Joy Wettels, you will need to review conflict of interest and paid editing as you will have some formal disclosures that you are required to make. 331dot (talk) 20:18, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

How would I report inaccurate/ missing information on a page that has been semi-protected?

Hi, how would I go about making a request to correct some inaccurate dates on an article that is semi-protected?

Thanks for letting me know :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penseess (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Penseess You may post on the article talk page, which you can do as a formal edit request to get the attention of other editors, but even just posting there should be seen by editors that follow that article. 331dot (talk) 20:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

LIST CURRENT STAFF

I NEED THE ROSTER FOR APPROVED OFFICERS IN THE SYSTEM TO DO 68A INSPECTIONS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:151B:1E2E:1461:3048:4B31:C3DE (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Is this a question about Wikipedia? Please do not type in all capital letters. 331dot (talk) 20:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

article on shoot the chutes park ride,coney island..

dear sirs, the patent holder in england and america was sir hiram maxim. he wanted to invent another park ride to compliment his captive airships.(flying machines)..in england his first shoot the chutes was built in southport 1902 along side of his captive flying machine.one complimented the other. at coney island he had a captive airship in front of the beacon tower. it is the only time that the two rides were not erected side by side..i have the patent copies from both countries. ive collected post cards of both rides. he invented and erected over 50 shoots rides. and 13 captive airships. that i know of. hiram maxim had 277 patented inventions in mostly england and america. 2nd only to edison. he was edison's #1 rival in the inventing game. mostly lighting..you can follow the trail of post cards.he was from maine but lived in brooklyn before moving to london.. your subject writer didn't even mention his name..henry h.maxim (great nephew)............. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:185:8200:B330:A03C:644:2CFF:2E96 (talk) 22:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

If you have a suggestion for the article Shoot the Chute, please post it at Talk:Shoot the Chute; if you have a suggestion for Dreamland (Coney Island, 1904), please post it at Talk:Dreamland (Coney Island, 1904); if for Hiram Maxim, then at Talk:Hiram Maxim; et cetera. In order to be persuasive, be sure to cite reliable, published sources. -- Hoary (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Database error message

My user name is User:Ltwin, but I couldn't edit without signing out. A few minutes ago while logged in and clicked on some articles on my watch list. Instead of seeing the articles, I only saw this error message reproduced below:

Database error A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software.

[Xou6YwpAICoAAIrNMsAAAABE] 2020-04-06 23:25:24: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"

It happened when I tried to post about it at the help desk. The only time it doesn't happen is when I'm logged out. Is this happening to other people? 2600:1700:7620:9F00:9CBE:3E3C:A058:1AA2 (talk) 23:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

See WT:VPT#Error on all non-talk pages at the present time. It looks as if it's working now. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Page Disappeared

My dad used to have a Wikipedia page and I went to look at it recently and it was gone. Is there a way to find out why it was deleted or what happened to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.177.142.20 (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Which specific page are you referring to? --MrClog (talk) 23:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Apple's page. He helped create the Nasdaq stock ticker and the Nasdaq wall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.177.142.20 (talk) 00:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Thomas Apple was deleted as the result of an unchallenged proposed deletion, with lacking notability as the reason. Looking at the deleted text, only one source was offered to support its content. Significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources is needed. 331dot (talk) 00:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

If I get other credible sources can I get the page back up? Or could you send me what was on the page so I can keep it for my personal records? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.177.142.20 (talk) 00:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

You can see the page on the Internet Archive. If you want the Wikitext, you can request that it be e-mailed to you, although don't post your e-mail address directly on Wikipedia unless you're fine with the whole world knowing it and sending you spam. You may also request it be undeleted if you intend to improve it, but before you do, please ensure you thoroughly understand Wikipedia's notability policy or it will just be deleted again. If you have reliable sources you can use to improve it, great! And please feel welcome to ask here if you have further questions. Thanks for contributing! --47.146.63.87 (talk) 23:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)