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List of Startling by Each Step episodes

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Dear administrators

I've added the proposed delete template on List of Startling by Each Step episodes because of the following concerns: "Believed to be unnecessary due to each episode's summary lack relevants, listed under Singapore's airdates instead of its original from Mainland China, incomplete, spoilers, and does not cite any reference."

However, some people had removing once depite I've already stated my concerns. I don't know what to do.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 00:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Try discussing it on the article's talk page. If that doesn't work, there's dispute resolution. RudolfRed (talk) 00:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone can challenge a "proposed deletion" by removing the notice, and once that is done it should not be restored - see Wikipedia:Proposed deletion#Objecting. If you still believe the article should be deleted, then you will have to begin an Articles for deletion discussion. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question about page deletion

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Hi - Sorry, I've read the pages on what to do about page deletion but I can't seem to find when/why this page was deleted. I searched in the deletion log but couldn't find it. There used to be a page on Wikipedia for Sandybeach Centre (a community centre/adult education centre in Sandringham, Australia) but I can no longer find it. Could you please tell me what's happened to it, and if it can be reinstated? Thanks. P.S. Thumbs up for the blackout :) Rbausor (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've searched the deletion log, and I can't find any evidence of it either. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 10:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also unable to find any evidence that this has been in Wikipedia. Perhaps you saw it somewhere else. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inserting Photo

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I can't figure out how to insert a photo. After I click on the photo icon, I get

Am I supposed to copy the file name from my computer into the "File:Example.jpg" space then type in my caption. And where do I get asked for all the photo information as it stated in the FAQs? RobsartFan (talk) 01:57, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Does this help? Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Its a little difficult to tell from your question exactly what problem your having. Are you uploading the image to Wikipedia (see Upload file link on far left of Wikipedia page). If you still experiencing problems, please come back.--Aspro (talk) 02:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot insert a photo from your computer without first uploading it either to English Wikipedia or (preferably) to commons. When you upload you will have to complete all the information about licensing. --ColinFine (talk) 10:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like the matter is a little confusion over what the button does. If there's already a photo on Wikipedia (or its associated website, Wikimedia Commons), you can insert a file by clicking the icon and replacing "Example.jpg" with the name of the image; for example, if you wanted to have a picture of a blue circle with the letter "I" in it, you'd click the button, remove "Example.jpg", and type "Information icon.svg" in its place. Nyttend (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kateri vs. Catherine

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Hi. I understand that Wikipedia rules state that the article must use the most notable name used in the General Media.

The article of my concern is Kateri Tekakwitha. Another user, not me, has reiterated the suspicion that Kateri is her feminist name given by a 19th-century feminist author, Ellen Walworth---but the real name of her choosing is Catherine, named after Catherine of Siena.

The Holy See on her beatification register does list her name as CATHERINE TEKAKWITHA, and her promulgation as a Venerable lists her name as CATHARINAE VIRGINIS (Latin). Some users have expressed strong feelings that she did know what her name of her choosing, and it was CATHERINE, NOT KATERI. And since it is a Roman Catholic article, the name designated by the Roman Catholic Church should prevail. Which she herself named after in honor of Saint Catherine of Siena.

I was wondering if there is any way that an intervention can be made to change this for the purpose of true genuine neutrality and not for feministic agenda. Hope you can help. I do not want to change it because I know it will start an edit-war. Please advise. THank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoveforMary (talkcontribs) 04:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kateri Tekakwitha (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch
"The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language..." See WP:Use English. —teb728 t c 08:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

error on the Tony Acquaviva article

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Article on Mr. Tony Acquaviva states that he was a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York.

URL for that article is

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Tony_Acquaviva

That he is a West Point graduate is not true. The Register of Graduates does not list anyone by that name. (That document lists, by name, every graduate and former cadet.) The article also states that he was in the Army Orchestral Division from 1944 until l1948. I have no knowledge about that orchestra entry, but know for certain that he was not a cadet and is not a graduate.

When I was a Cadet (July 58 till graduation in June 62), Joni James sang a Sunday afternoon concert at the Military Academy, in the movie theater that was then located in the same building as the gymnasium. (I can't remember just which year she sang, but I think it was either academic year 60-61, or 61-62.) I was then and still am a big time Joni James fan, have a shelf full of her records, and am absolutely positive of this information.

In that concert, in a well received *conservational* portion of her performance (between songs), she told us that she had been to West Point many times before, because her husband had been an enlisted member of the Military Academy Band. She said that she had frequently visited West Point to watch parades, hear the band play and *see the band musician who is now her husband.* Numerous bio articles on both Joni James and Tony Acquaviva, it is noted that they married in 1956, so when she sang that concert in early 1960s she was actually Mrs. Tony Acquaviva, but she was dearly beloved by Cadets as simply Joni James.

I do not know how to *edit* that article to provide correct information. The band at West Point is similar to other military bands (Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps.) Members are very accomplished musicians, many with degrees and graduate degrees from prestigious civilian universities with well known music departments. To become a member of such a military band, the musician must audition and demonstrate high level of talent/proficiency on the particular instrument. If the audition is *successful* then the person is allowed to enlist in that military service, for duty in the band for which they auditioned. Military musicians now serve exclusively in musical assignments with that band.

In years past, during the draft, talented musicians who were drafted could often secure assignment to the band on their installation, such as the Army Band at Fort Hood, the Air Force Band at March Air Force Base or at the Navy base in San Diego. That is quite possible how Mister Acquaviva came to be assigned to the Army Band at West Point during the time to which Joni James made reference in her concert performance at West Point. (These service bands at various installations are different from *The Army Band* or *The Marine Corps Band in Washington DC, which require the same type of *audition for and be accepted for enlistment into* arrangements, except that the skill level/degree of musical talent/proficiency is at a much higher level.)

swingmusicfan Swingmusicfan (talk) 04:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence about his schooling and musical accomplishments is referenced to the LA Times. Do you have any source other than your own recollections that you can point to to provide a source for your arguments? Dismas|(talk) 05:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Register of Graduate is only available online on a restricted basis and I doubt many Wikipedians would qualify, here. There is a published version, however.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would like an answer to this please help. Thanks

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My name is Kyle Seip. I was informed that back in November, that a current resident of my neighborhood, posted an article about me being a notable resident of Allentown, New Jersey after he found out who I was and that I lived in his neighborhood. I am a well known stand up comedian and professional gambler. I perform nation wide (New York City, Philadelphia, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, ETC) I raise money for Autism and Cancer re-search through this as well. I was very flattered that this was done for me and I was proud to be a notable resident of my town. My town was sad to see my name taken down and the article removed, I was wondering why this was done? I feel that I've made a decent contribution to society, my town and the United States. Can the article please be put back up?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.28.7 (talk) 07:36, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The only mention of Kyle Seip I could find is this user page draft. It is currently completely unsourced, fails to establish notability and also quite promotional in tone. It requires a lot of work before it would be an acceptable article. Roger (talk) 07:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of people who make significant contributions to society, and are well-known locally, don't satisfy the Wikipedia:Notability conditions for an article (see, especially: Wikipedia:Notability (people). You might wish to start collecting press cuttings (from the national rather than the local press) about your performances and fund-raising activities to help in establishing evidence of notability. Are you thisKyle Seip? Dbfirs 10:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Notability has got nothing to do with being a good person. Serial killers get articles, my mum doesn't.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 14:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to fix a talk link?

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Resolved

I made a WikiProject proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/NFCC Enforcement. How can I fix the Talk link for the first bullet point at List of important pages and categories for this proposed group? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You'll see the answer at Template:la. I've changed la to lw for you. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:04, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to archive my talk page?

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Just wondering.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Create this page. Cut and paste whatever you want to archive there. Put an archive box, such as the one I have on my talk, near the top of your talk page, so people know there's an archive. Consider having your talk page automatically archived.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See Help:Archiving a talk page. Gandalf61 (talk) 10:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

a confusion of editing the wikipedia

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i have read the stub on gursaran talwar .the link is http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gursaran_Talwar i found a topic on gursaran talwar in the following link http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12288547 i found that there are more information that can help improving the topic. i read the term and condition of 'editing' but got confused with the 'copyright' issue. i cannot understand where from i can check if the content of the above mentioned site is under copyright or not; whether i can use the topic content for editing the wikipedia topic without violating any legal issue! kindly help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.226.135.146 (talk) 12:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The information at that location is an abstract of the following article http://archive.idrc.ca/books/reports/v224/india.html , which is not a US Government creation. However the information in that article can certainly be added. Some of it is more encyclopedic than others. For example, I would not use anything in the first sentence in the last paragraph about his health and climing stairs. The information, however should be rewritten to avoid copyright issues.Naraht (talk) 12:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To explain in a bit more detail; it would be a good thing to use the ideas contained in that article to improve Wikipedia. What you cannot do is use the text from that article, since the text is copyrighted and should not be copied directly to Wikipedia. Instead, read that article, think about what it says, then using your own intellect, create a wholly new text which encompasses the same ideas, but which you created all brand-new, and then cite the original work as a footnote. --Jayron32 21:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Never Been Marcused

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Never Been Marcused (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Never been Marcused (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I've stumbled across a copyright violation mixed up with a cut+paste move, and am not sure how to proceed. The correct title, per www.tv.com is the uppercase "Been". In both copies the long "Plot" section is a copyright violation from that source. Fixing the cut+paste move is all about preserving the attribution history, but the copyvio probably means the history will have to be discarded anyway. Any ideas? -- John of Reading (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I moved Never been Marcused to the correct title. The history of Never Been Marcused did not have anything that needed to be preserved. Ruslik_Zero 13:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'll deal with the copyvio now. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article Title Editing Question

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I need help changing the title for a wikipedia article on the page Indiana Humanities Council.

I am their Spring Intern, and they have recently gone under a new branding campaign, and have changed their name from Indiana Humanities Council to just Indiana Humanities. How can I change the title so that it reflects their new style? I have looked in the FAQ as well as on the editing page, and can't seem to find a way to do this.

Thank you! Mslavens (talk) 14:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MOVE, but you cannot move articles until your user account is autoconfirmed. I will move it for you, but the article has other problems, not the least of which are notability and promotional tone. Also, as you have a COI you should refrain from editing the article, but use the article's talk page to suggest changes. – ukexpat (talk) 15:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It also looks as if some of the material is a copyright violation from the organisation's website. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well spotted, I have reduced the article to a stub to remove copyvio and potential copyvio material. – ukexpat (talk) 16:53, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help for correction

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I wrote a detailed article about “Dielectric absorption”, please see under User:Elcap/Dielectric absorption This article was translated from German, but I am not an expert of the English language. If someone please can help and correct my mistakes I would be very glad. --Elcap (talk) 15:31, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Given the highly technical nature of the article, it might be best if you ask for assistance from users more familiar with the subject. I recommend asking in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics -- Obsidin Soul 15:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have gone ahead and copied your request to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics#Help for correction.-- Obsidin Soul 16:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually WikiProject Electronics is more directly relevant. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics#Help for correction. Roger (talk) 17:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. My mistake. Shows how much I know about the subject. :P -- Obsidin Soul 18:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have responded to this request there and on the users talk page. SpinningSpark 17:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Permission from living persons

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Hello,

I would like to make a contribution by writing an article about an English writer. Should I ask her for permission before posting my article and wait until she fully approves of it?

I have already made a few contributions to Wikipedia in the past, but not to that extent. I am quite uncomfortable about writing something about someone who is well alive, even if the article sticks to the facts. Isn't it a way of using her public image without her consent? What if she actually discovers that there is something written about her, but she does not want the information, however accurate and sensible, to be published online. Do you contact these people beforehand and check if they agree? Or should I contact her directly and ask her for approval?

Thanks for your answer (and sorry if the question has already been asked - I haven't found anything on that subject in the FAQs). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilanow (talkcontribs) 15:50, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the person is notable by Wikipedia's standards and there are reliable sources that document that they are notable, you don't need their permission to write an article. If you're uncomfortable writing it without their permission, you certainly are under no obligation to start the article. Even accurate and sensible information shouldn't be included if it hasn't already been published by a reliable source. --OnoremDil 15:57, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(e/c) No. It's not recommended even per WP:Conflict of interest as they can introduce biases into the article. As long as the person in question meets at least one of the notability criteria listed in WP:AUTHOR, you can write about her if you want.
In order to avoid the possibility of libel, please ensure that you include references along with all the information given. Try to use only highly reliable references. e.g. Tabloids, blogs, or other wiki sites are not reliable. Books, academic journals, news articles, reviews by reliable and notable people etc. are acceptable. A bit of common sense and judgement is required in choosing the sources, I guess. And of course, always ensure you write in a neutral tone. If there are controversies, try and include both sides proportional to the weight given to them by external sources.
For further guidance in the policies and guidelines involved in writing biographies of living persons, please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.-- Obsidin Soul 16:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a biography

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I am working with a 90 yr. old retired M.D. Hossein K. Ghadimi, M.D. He has published many articles and breakthroughs. He has noticed that when "googling" some of his former colleagues that they show up in Wikipedia but when "googling" himself, he does not show up. He has all the information and documentation and would like to put this on Wikipedia. A short biography of his professional career along with access to the articles he has published. My question is, how do we go about doing this? Greenpea60 (talk) 16:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't unless there are independent reliable sources that demonstrate that this individual meets the notability guidelines. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with articles about notable subjects, not a place for posting of profiles or resumes, or lists of publications. Even if this person meets the guidelines, the article should be written by someone without a conflict of interest. – ukexpat (talk) 16:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cookies

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I somehow disabled a cookie that I want to enable again. How do I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.237.125 (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 17:29, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Picastro photo mistake

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Picastro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi,

I have tried uploading new images myself on this article "Picastro". I am the founder of the band and the images on the current article are completely out-of-date. My current band members appear in the images here:

http://www.polyvinylrecords.com/artists/index.php?id=304

If you look at the listing of members, you can see their names as well. They appear in the Wikpedia entry as current members but the photos are not accurate and I would like to replace them with actual members of my band. Please let me know how to do so or reply if further information is required.

Thanks, Liz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizhysen (talkcontribs) 17:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before you can upload a photo to Wikipedia that appears on the internet, you must first confirm that it is released under a free licence (usually we specify CC BY-SA 3.0). You can do this in two ways. The first is to ask the website displaying the photo to place a notice on the page saying it is released under CC BY-SA 3.0. Otherwise, contact permissions-en@wikimedia.org with evidence that you have permission to use the image. When you have done that come back here if you still need assistance actually uploading it. SpinningSpark 18:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Permission to use the image" is not sufficient, if that means "permission to use the image on Wikipedia". All of Wikipedia is licensed to allow it to be reused for any purpose, and images must be either public domain or released under a licence compatible with that. -ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blog for novels

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Greetings

I wish to create a blog for my novels.

I have no idea where to start or what to do.

Larry Henry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88 millimeter (talkcontribs) 17:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to start somewhere else. Wikipedia is an online dictionary, and contains articles about notable subjects, based on reliable sources. There are no blogs on Wikipedia. Sorry. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. Perhaps you should search Google for "blogging sites"? – ukexpat (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is actually an encyclopedia; Wiktionary is a dictionary.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:00, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What citation template would be best to use?

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If I wanted to cite an event of the Disney Channel Games, would I use {{Cite episode}}? Or a different citation template? I don't want to inadvertently use the wrong one. - Purplewowies (talk) 19:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Using the wrong one isn't a big deal as long as all the relevant information is there. As {{cite episode}} allows for specification of a time index (to indicate what part of the episode is being cited), I would say that it's probably fine. --NYKevin @253, i.e. 05:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyedit?

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Is there a place where I can request an article to be copyedited? Thanks. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can try Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests and Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/List of participants--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:22, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are also templates that can be added to articles indicating they need copyediting and these templates add a category so editors can find these articles. However, there is a very large backlog on the categories. RJFJR (talk) 21:39, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reading History?

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Does Wikipedia offer a place where you can look at a history of all the articles you have looked at? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clgfive (talkcontribs) 20:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We do not. We do offer a history of all the pages you have edited, however. TNXMan 20:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's a tab that says "History" at the top of every page. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:47, 23 January 2012 (UTC) (Edited to add: that allows you to look at all the contributions that were made to any article you look at. Your browser history may allow you to see which articles you have looked at in the past, however. Also, sorry for accidentally wiping out your reply, Tnxman307.) - Purplewowies (talk) 20:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for page protection

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Misplaced dispute discussion
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

These users TEHodson and J Greb has been bothering me because I keeps forgetting to put edit summaries on Buffy the Vampire Slayer (TV series) related article, believing I violate the portocals as if I vandalize article. I am upet about this. However, Elizium23 pointed out that "Where does it say that edit summaries are a requirement? It does not. They are highly recommended. If this editor is not engaging in disruptive editing in the first place, you have no right to demand that s/he use summaries. A request is simple enough, but you (TEHodson) are going beyond the boundaries of WP:CIVIL and threatening a block that will not happen if his/her only offense is this." Please read my talk page for more info.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't help you with the block situation, but if you want to be reminded to put in an edit summary, there's a setting under the "editing" tab in your preferences to prompt/warn you if you haven't put one in. If you check that setting, then if you click "save page" when you haven't entered an edit summary, instead of saving the page, it will remind you that you haven't entered an edit summary and will allow you to enter one before saving the page. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have posted to TEHodson's page. I would suggest that you disengage them for the time-being. Consider asking for a third opinion on your dispute. TNXMan 21:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Can you tell them to leave me alone? I am sick and tired of this.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would be happy to leave user Neobatfreak alone. I would also be happy to be able to stop cleaning up after him, trying to figure out what the heck he is doing and why he's doing it, and reverting long strings of chaotic edits on multiple pages. Many of us have made the same requests of him, and none have got results. His habit of uploading illegal images is also a problem. It seems a simple thing to ask that when making a dozen edits to a page actively being rewritten by others that a brief edit summary be left. I'm certainly sorry if I was overly harsh, but I am truly at my wit's end, and I'm not alone in this. I'm just the most vocal. I will stay off his talk page for now, but certainly I have the right to leave another message there if his editing is causing more problems.--TEHodson 21:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TEHodson, LEAVE ME ALONE, you are being disruptive, there are other users besides me on Wikipedia that are someone tries to master their writing through Wikipedia, why can't you bother them? Who do you think you are, QUEEN OF WIKIPEDIA, everyone had to heeds to your ways of editing?!!!!!!!!!!--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop. I suggest you check out Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. - Purplewowies (talk) 21:32, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(second)This page is not the place for this discussion. Please work it out on one of your own talk pages or take the discussion to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. Thanks. fredgandt 21:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. I have repeatedly attempted to search for the list of the ESPN 1996 NFL’s Toughest Players. I am having no fortune. Please, guide me on how to search for this item as I have exhausted my ideas. Thank you much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.234.92 (talk) 23:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Playersfredgandt 23:57, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Larry Csonka#Miami and the Super Bowl years mentions what appears to have been a film by the title "The NFL's 100 Toughest Players" produced in 1996. However, this mention isn't linked to any Wikipedia page. fredgandt 00:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]