Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Linux Distribution Timeline

Featured picture candidates/Linux Distribution Timeline

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 May 2013 at 17:56:15 (UTC)

Reason: High EV, very thorough, very well put together.
Articles in which this image appears: Fork (software development) Linux distribution
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:FP#Engineering_and_technology
Creator: Bunch of people, see File:Linux Distribution Timeline.svg for the names.

Support as nominator --TechFilmer - Feel free to drop a message. 17:56, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~. Indeed very thorough, very well put together, and indispensable EV for the history of computing. dllu (t,c) 18:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the support because I feel that I must think about this more. For example, since last year, Crunchbang is now no longer based on Ubuntu and is instead directly based on Debian. Plus, the other commenters below make some good points. dllu (t,c) 06:23, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why does redhat not get a logo? I wonder since the smaller distros don't get images, should we have any logos at all? --Chrismiceli (talk) 21:22, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Red Hat Linux logo is non-free. dllu (t,c) 03:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you can't copyright fonts (at least, not in most jurisdictions), so why not just use the text part of their logo? It looks rather horribly unbalanced as it is. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 16:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm not really a fan of the in-image credit... J Milburn (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Look, I really like the diagram, but the information portrayed is constantly changing. There is no way this can keep its EV for long. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:47, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is being regularly updated over the last 3 years though. dllu (t,c) 00:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. I still don't like the idea of an image that will loose its EV over time if not updated. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 14:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Without commenting on the image itself, I don't think this is a valid reason to oppose. If the diagram becomes outdated in the future then it can be delisted. Cowtowner (talk) 04:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just re-read my reasons, and I find I did comment on the image's EV and its ability to retain said EV. I consider that commenting on the most important aspect of an image as far as WP's FPC guidelines are concerned. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 14:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to add some more reasoning from my part: It is going to be very difficult for this diagram to ever be complete. There are thousands of linux distributions, not all of which are documented and/or easily findable. How do we determine which ones are notable enough to make it onto the diagram and which ones are not? Who does the determining?

If it is going to be a FP, it needs to be the editors in the FPC page that determine if it has enough EV for FP status. That we are ok with someone else editing the image to their liking and it retaining its FP status without any input from us whatsoever does not sit well with me. We currently do not have the ability to re-evaluate images periodically. If we could, I would support that this image be an FP for 3 months, at which point it would loose its FP status and have to be renominated based on its EV at that point.

This is a tough one. We are used to pictures here, where the only thing that can be changed in them over time are the adjustments, but the content remains the same. Even then, by the time a picture reaches FP status, it has had all the adjustments it needs. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 14:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see those arguments, and agree that they are legitimate concerns. I'd say that we (or the project) have a responsibility to curate the images we promote, both to keep them in line with our standards and ensure that they continue to have EV. We have featured images of subjects which are subject to change, though probably not as rapidly as this one might. I think the best example of this would be subway maps. I guess it's just a question of degree. Cowtowner (talk) 04:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 17:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]