Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Hyacinth macaw in flight
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- Reason
- High quality image. FP on Commons. IUCN listed as Vulnerable. Tis image been used on a Postage Stamp from India (without permission!).
- Articles in which this image appears
- Hyacinth macaw
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
- Creator
- Charlesjsharp
- Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:02, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Choliamb (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Perplexed question India? Why??? It's not as if there's a shortage of photogenic birds in India. Why did they need to poach a photo of a New World species for their postage stamp? – Choliamb (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- It is very normal for postal authorities to issue sets of images of non-native animals. They cater to 'topical' (US) or 'thematic' (UK) stamp collectors. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:51, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- About your comment in the reason section above: The license you release your photos under on Commons doesn't require "permission". It requires "attribution". Bammesk (talk) 12:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- They didn't ask permission which is not required but is usual. They did not attribute the photo as required by the licence and declined to answer a stream of e-mails. Reprehensible behaviour by India Post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesjsharp (talk • contribs)
- Ok understood. I am just pointing out that claiming "permission", or lack of, doesn't help or change anything. It just confuses the issue. Bammesk (talk) 15:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I experienced a similar situation a few years ago: North Korea took my Wiki photo of the Bengtskär lighthouse and put it on a stamp (no permission, no attribution whatsoever) - and added Albatross birds! (Those are half a globe away, never seen in Finland...) The result is here: [1] That's my family and friends (in sepia) standing under the left-hand stamp... --Janke | Talk 20:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- At least they didn't add hyacinth macaws. Choliamb (talk) 21:59, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should form a club! Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:01, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- That is not fair. The authorship must be appreciated when the artistic work is used. Being an Indian, I should say sorry to you for the act. As a lawyer I can take it up the issue before the appropriate authority if you insist Charlesjsharp. Let the authority give an explanation. DreamSparrow Chat 17:05, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's a kind offer, but I wouldn't want to put you to any trouble. Charlesjsharp (talk) 19:19, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- What do you mean by trouble ? I don't find any trouble in informing an illegal act to an authority which is committed the said act Charlesjsharp. If you do not wish to proceed, leave it. Otherwise, not an issue for me. Government department is not above the LAW. Let them at least come and apologise for this. DreamSparrow Chat 13:14, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Mydreamsparrow:, the copyright license here says "Attribution .... you may do so in any reasonable manner". Is it reasonable to expect attribution "on the face of a stamp" itself? Such as the name of a photographer, or a URL link, or etc., on the face of a stamp? If no, then is it reasonable that attribution could be (or perhaps was) given in a public log or public listing of some sorts? Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Bammesk: The answer is here. Right, even I do think it will not be possible to put the name of the photographer on the face of the stamp. However, they can add the credit here right ? DreamSparrow Chat 09:18, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Well, in Sweden, artists get credit on the stamps, for instance see [[2]] ... --Janke | Talk 16:41, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Mydreamsparrow, yes that makes sense, thanks for the explanation. Bammesk (talk) 02:19, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Bammesk: The answer is here. Right, even I do think it will not be possible to put the name of the photographer on the face of the stamp. However, they can add the credit here right ? DreamSparrow Chat 09:18, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Mydreamsparrow:, the copyright license here says "Attribution .... you may do so in any reasonable manner". Is it reasonable to expect attribution "on the face of a stamp" itself? Such as the name of a photographer, or a URL link, or etc., on the face of a stamp? If no, then is it reasonable that attribution could be (or perhaps was) given in a public log or public listing of some sorts? Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- I experienced a similar situation a few years ago: North Korea took my Wiki photo of the Bengtskär lighthouse and put it on a stamp (no permission, no attribution whatsoever) - and added Albatross birds! (Those are half a globe away, never seen in Finland...) The result is here: [1] That's my family and friends (in sepia) standing under the left-hand stamp... --Janke | Talk 20:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support — Hamid Hassani (talk) 15:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support This'd look great on the main page, or other things, like a stamp. The Indian Postal Service has voted. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs. 12:29, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Support. MER-C 16:55, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Promoted File:Hyacinth macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) in flight.JPG --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:07, 12 July 2023 (UTC)