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- Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another technology award list. There are a lot of things that can be wikilinked (especially in the award citations). I’ve added some, but please go through the citation column carefully to see if more should be added. Similar FL: Turing Award. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Drive-by comment
[edit]- I've never seen an article before that has what amounts to multiple "see also" sections, neither of which is titled "See also". I would simply put all five wikilinks under the heading "see also" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:28, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed: Merged the two sections and removed a couple of the links. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
[edit]- "a gold medal, a bronze replica," - a bronze replica of what? Of the gold medal?
- "a certificate, and an honorarium" - is there an appropriate link for "honorarium"? I for one have no idea what that is.
- "when the IRE merged with the American Institute of Electrical Engineers (AIEE) to form the IEEE, in 1963" - no need for that comma
- Source(s) for second paragraph of lead?
- Because the table is sortable, anything which is linked will need to be linked each time it appears eg I can see piezoelectricity used twice but only linked once -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the rest and wikilinked the second instance of piezoelectric in the table. I'll ping you here when I finish checking for other such terms that need to be wikilinked a second time. Meanwhile, please take a look at the citations column specifically to see if other terms need wikilinking. I tried to avoid overlinking, but I might have been too stingy while assessing what needs to be linked. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. I've now added repeated wikilinks in the table. I've purposely left out a few to avoid SEAOFBLUE issues. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the rest and wikilinked the second instance of piezoelectric in the table. I'll ping you here when I finish checking for other such terms that need to be wikilinked a second time. Meanwhile, please take a look at the citations column specifically to see if other terms need wikilinking. I tried to avoid overlinking, but I might have been too stingy while assessing what needs to be linked. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:51, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Alavense
[edit]- 104 people have been awarded the medal - MOS:NUMNOTES: "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure".
- Could a photograph of each recipient be added? Turing Award, which you cite as a similar featured list, has them.
- I feel there's no need for the uppercase in the second word in both No Award and No Citation.
- Ref(s) should be "Ref(s).", shouldn't it?
That's what I saw, MPGuy2824. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed the rest. I'll work on adding the images and then ping you here. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you very much, MPGuy2824. I was having another look at it and realized there's no row for the year 1925. Why? Alavense (talk) 09:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Alavense:
there's no row for the year 1925. Why?
IEEE has a couple of places where they have the whole list of winners. For some of the years, they explicitly mention "No award". 1925 wasn't mentioned at all. But, going by [2], there wasn't any winner in 1925 too. I've corrected the table to show this.- I've also added the images to the table. A lot of the photos are there, but it is only allowed to use them at the main article about the person, so I've skipped those.
- Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice work, MPGuy2824. Support. Alavense (talk) 11:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Alavense:
- Thank you very much, MPGuy2824. I was having another look at it and realized there's no row for the year 1925. Why? Alavense (talk) 09:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dylan620
[edit]Pegging myself down for a review in the very near future. Dylan620 in public/on mobile (he/him • talk) 08:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey @Dylan620, just following up about this. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the ping Josh, and apologies MPGuy2824 for the delay. Some unanticipated concerns sprung up at my own FLC and I got sidetracked. I still want to review this, but I also don't want to hold things up, so please proceed without me if I still haven't posted here in the next couple days. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 19:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Matthewrb
[edit]- The short description in the article is "American annual technology prize" while the description on Wikidata is "award conferred by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers" - I recommend reverting to the Wikidata description since it's more descriptive.
Awarded for [...] Exceptional contribution or an extraordinary career in the IEEE fields of interest
- source?- Alt text is meant to provide additional context for screen readers, per MOS:ALT. Most of the alt text for the images in the table only restate their name. I recommend adding some more information to the alt text. For example, the alt text for Edwin Howard Armstrong could be "A headshot of Edwin Howard Armstrong, taken around 1954." The alt text of the image in the infobox also has this problem.
- Out of 114 citations, only 4 are from third-party sources. While I understand this is a list of awards and it's hard to find reliable mentions consistently over nearly 100 years (as well as WP:NLIST), I might recommend seeing if there are some more third-party sources to use in the lead. I was able to find two after a brief search.
- Citation 4 is treated as dead when it is still live. I did a spot check of the other citations and didn't see any other issues.
- Commons has a category: commons:Category:IEEE_Medal_of_Honor_recipients - I recommend adding a new "External Links" section with {{Commons category-inline}}.
- I would recommend adding {{IEEE Medal of Honor}} to the footer.
~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 02:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awarded for [...] Exceptional contribution or an extraordinary career in the IEEE fields of interest - source?
This is from the website mentioned in the same infobox, so I don't think a separate ref is needed.- I've fixed the rest per your recommendations and will get to the alt texts for the images soon. I'll ping you here when I'm done with those. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:49, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Just following up to see if this has all been addressed @MPGuy2824. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No, not yet. Need a couple of days. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 17:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Matthewrb: I've done the alt texts for the images. Some of the images don't have dates, and some aren't exactly headshots, so I've left the alt text as just the name in those cases. Please have a look when you get the chance. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 15:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good! Support ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 15:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Just following up to see if this has all been addressed @MPGuy2824. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
[edit]Source review: Passed
- Reliable enough for the information being cited
- Consistent date formatting
- Consistent and proper reference formatting
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
- Spot checks on 15 sources match what they are being cited for
Good stuff MPGuy! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @FLC director and delegates: This is old enough and has source, image and prose supports. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:57, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We know, we've just all been very busy in real life for the past week or two. Promoting. --PresN 18:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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