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Holding space

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The article is extremely brief at four sentences; and while I can at least appreciate the addition of citations to the page, I feel that this article does not have enough substance to... hold space in Wikipedia's mainspace. The article appears to be a violator of both WP:TABLOID and WP:RECENT, and I am not convinced that the "holding space" phrase has any present notability independent to the Wicked media tour and subsequent coverage. If the phrase can end up having its own unique notability outside of temporary tabloids and "meme culture", and can endure in the public conscience, then maybe it could have its own page. Even then, it may possibly fit better with Wiktionary... but that must require that the phrase has a serious definition in the first place, in spite of two of the article's sentences (reminder: half of all the article's sentences) are dedicated to explaining how unclear the phrase's definition is. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 02:53, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 November 29. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 03:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The article shows no evidence for why this would be a notable topic worthy of an article. The article itself even states that "No one seems to fully understand what any of this actually means", so why does it have its own article? —Mjks28 (talk) 03:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep - While the phrase was popularized because of the interview for Wicked and it's big uptick as embraced by the community, the phrase itself actually is not new and the meaning as explained by this article in psychology today from 2023, and from a quick web search, the term appears to be commonly used in psychology. This also fits the explained meaning of the journalist as explained in the NYTimes article about the wicked interview that the movie and music is "holding space" in a special time right now for the LGBTQ community that is often othered, just as the character Elphaba is in the movie.

So definitely passes notability, even outside the current use in the Wicked context, the fact that the article was created as a stub, does not mean it's not notable and this was just a quick 5 minute research from me, so it looks like this nomination is failing WP:BEFORE, so let's expand the article content and this AfD should become redundant quickly. Raladic (talk) 03:23, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum, adopted article, added Psychology origin from 2015, which as already mentioned above, matches the explanation of the journalist that the phrase basically means to create a safe space for community. Suggesting WP:HEY is applicable here. Raladic (talk) 03:45, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Popular culture and Sexuality and gender. Raladic (talk) 03:24, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Raladic (talk) 04:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to safe space? Hyperbolick (talk) 09:09, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per GNG and HEY, thanks to Raladic. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 09:42, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim Abdurrahman Farajajé

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The only source that appears at all credible is the article "Whatever Way Love's Camel Takes: Remembering Baba Ibrahim Farajajé," which reads as more of a posthumous tribute than anything establishing notability, almost like an obituary (granted it was published a few years after his death, but the sentiment seems similar). All the other sources are either closely affiliated with the subject or do not appear to be generally reputable. An online search seems to return mostly the same things already being used as sources here, with an additional article on Google scholar that again appears to be a simple tribute. This individual certainly led an interesting life, but I see no evidence that they managed to attain notability. Anonymous 00:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Anonymous 00:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Bloated bio of a scholar who appears to have made almost no impact. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]
weak delete: More than a few journals remembered this individual after their passing, the one given in the article and this one [1]. With a book tribute here [A Legacy of Afrocentric, Decolonial, In-the-Life Theology and Bisexual Intersexional Philosophical Thought and Practice], but these all seem to be after this person passed away. I don't see much from when they were still alive. Oaktree b (talk) 02:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Sexuality and gender, Religion, California, New York, and Washington, D.C.. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep - hang on there is a 2023 festschrift dedicated to him - see, meeting WP:PROF criteria 1c Lajmmoore (talk) 10:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
comment I don't have time right now to work on it further, but these sources might help someone who does here, here (in Spanish), here Lajmmoore (talk) 10:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep anyone who gets a festschrift devoted to them (from non-fringe publications) is notable. Wow this article needs to be rewritten though, lot of NPOV issues PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article could use some improvement, but he's well-cited in scholarly literature. Yuchitown (talk) 01:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where are the cites? In GS there are only 9, and we usually expect several thousands. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:39, 24 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

comment I've made a start on re-writing the article, and will come back to it Lajmmoore (talk) 19:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kaizenify (talk) 07:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Sartre

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Fails WP:GNG. No WP:SIGCOV from secondary sources that shows notability. Demt1298 (talk) 02:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Women, and Bibliographies. Demt1298 (talk) 02:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Draftify - Doesn't entirely establish notability. Needs better sources and better info. Too many red links, suggesting that not notable
Sushidude21! (talk) 07:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 02:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She is the subject of a number of profiles including Las Vegas Weekly, Jezebel, and Paper. She's also discussed in several academic sources as seen from a Google Scholar search: [2]. I think there is enough to meet GNG. Thriley (talk) 04:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There is a mix of moderate and trivial mentions, from databases or entertainment platforms that focus on her work rather than her broader impact. However, given the combination of in-depth interviews, mainstream coverage (Stern), and critical industry coverage from Las Vegas Weekly, Adult DVD Talk, the subject passes WP:SIGCOV.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 14:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sexuality and gender, California, and Nevada. • Gene93k (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:41, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify. Not seeing a keep on sources now there. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are two articles from the Daily Beast which detail Sartre: How Porn Made These Women Feel Empowered: ‘It Gave Me a New Sense of Confidence’ and The Rise of Video Conferencing Quarantine Porn. Thriley (talk) 20:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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