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Literature

A Pair of Aces

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Article has been tagged for sources since September 2022. The only sources on the page are for Goodreads (unreliable per WP:GOODREADS) and a "review" that ultimately directs the user to Amazon. According to the page, the text was never published, and I have not been able to find any sources on the subject. Given that there are two authors, the option to redirect is out. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Nothing useful found. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Squire Arden

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Novel by prolific but now obscure writer, question if everything she wrote is notable. PatGallacher (talk) 15:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Many contemporary reviews to the book are able to be found on newspapers.com and archive.org. Per WP:OLDBOOK notability for non-contemporary books is harder to determine, and so "possible bases for a finding of notability include, in particular, how widely the book has been cited or written about, the number of editions of the book". This has been reprinted to the modern day enough to make finding literary sources, which likely exist, a pain. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show us these contemporary reviews? PatGallacher (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PatGallacher One here, quite lengthy

another here

one here

There are many, many more on Newspapers.com but I am away from the computer right now and the proxy is difficult so I cannot link them, but this theoretically suffices. This seemed to have been a popular book at the time and I'd bet there's some later coverage reflecting on it but it's difficult to find in the sea of 100 reprints. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I found some of those newspapers.com contemporary reviews: one from the Pall Mall Gazette, and another from the Examiner. This demonstrates notability. Toughpigs (talk) 02:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Wisdom Bridge

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Only one source listed is an actual review/has outside commentary and what seems to be independence. I was unable to find anything else. A lot of the sources fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA which further confuses matters. Redirect to Kamlesh Patel (Daaji)? PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I contest this as the article as sufficient references as suggested per Wikipedia Policies for a book. The article has also been reviewed by other editors.Gardenkur (talk) 13:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the references are press-release tier material which per NBOOK do not count for notability. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My So-Called Career in Hollywood

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No sigcov. Very few mentions at all, even in passing. Theoretically, redirect to Timothy Williams (actor), but he might not be notable either. Better chance than this article though.PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:31, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Timothy Williams (actor) - I am finding no coverage or reviews on the book, and no information at all on the listed publisher of the book. As stated in the nom, the author may not be notable themselves, but as long as they have an article up, Redirecting to that would be appropriate for now. Rorshacma (talk) 00:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Do we have reliable sources confirming the book was written by Timothy Williams? If so, I would argue for redirecting. However, if we don't even have proof Williams wrote the book, it should be deleted. Ping me if anything shows up. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Significa liberdade I was unable to find a reliable source stating it, as afaik there are no reliable sources that mention this book. The only thing I found is his IMDB bio, which states "In addition, he is the ghost writer behind two cult classic novels: "My So-Called Career in Hollywood," the autobiography of 1960's failed sitcom writer E. Klass, and "I Am Not Lost in Space!" the fictionalized autobiography of iconic TV character Will Robinson, and the first 'tie-in novelization' based on the 1960's series published in over 40 years." That could of course not be true, because IMDB.

Upon looking at this, I have now realized there is a high chance that the creator of this page is Timothy Williams - their username starts with TW, the number string is "3767" vs his birthday of 30 July 1967 and the only things they ever edited was Williams page and the pages of his works. So, well, at least he thinks he made it. I think it should redirect but uhhh looking at the history here I now realize we may have bigger issues PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Search of Our Origins

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When this page was made, there may have been a source about it that was reliable (it could be unreliable for all I know). Now it is a permanent dead link, and more than that it is the only review available, failing NBOOK (which needs two). I have found nothing else except a handful of fringe-looking hits on Google Books and one very good source that discusses the author but only mentions this book in passing (I have added that source to author's page though as it is not in good shape). Redirect to author Jamshed Akhtar? PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: There's also what looks to be coverage (maybe a review?) at [1], presumably published by the International Institute of Islamic Thought. However, I can't accurately assess what the content actually is, since my copy-paste isn't able to properly copy this sort of text to Google Translate. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 14:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ARandomName123 Good catch! According to DeepL this is what the review says: "The author of the book is Jamshed Akhtar, an Indian writer and researcher specializing in electrical engineering with an interest in the study of religion, and a member of the Islamic Fiqh Academy of India. The book presents exciting information about the origin of life and man extracted from his analysis of the words of the Holy Quran. We learn how the first molecule of life was created on planet Earth, what was the mechanism involved, where did this event take place on the primordial earth, and what happened next? It tells us how life is related to man, how the first human being and his partner were created, and where they started their lives from the beginning. The research also discusses creatures such as the jinn and angels and the concept of paradise for Adam, within the parameters of the Qur'an and modern physics. The book discusses the case that revelation is an extraterrestrial phenomenon, and offers a mechanism for verifying information that has the potential to anchor the perennial debate between creationists and evolutionists."

This, IMO, does not help its case much, this is basically just summing up what the book says. Less a review and more the "Book Notes" describing books you sometimes encounter in western journals as well (in fact, the arabic section title seems to translate to that). PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:36, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added it to the author's page though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~Redirect: I also have not been able to find any sources (Scholar, Kirkus, Booklist, LJ, ProQuest). ~~Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:44, 11 August 2024 (UTC)~~ Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade Opinion on redirect? PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Boy Named 68818

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I could not find any reviews or sigcov covering the book. All the evaluative material is sourced from the book's own website or the book itself which is not usable. There are two passing news article mentions in articles about the author and nothing else. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: No reviews found in LJ, SLJ, PW, Kirkus, Booklist, Shelf Awareness, Scholar, or ProQuest. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darwin 1942: The Japanese Attack on Australia

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I am unable to find any sources that discuss this book in depth. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chia Black Dragon

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 13:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Covered in some books here and here, which give critical evaluation of the series; also some sections in magazines [2]. Some are entries on the author but they primarily talk about the series. In any case if this is kept it should be retitled as a series and structured around that instead of the main character. I found several interviews with the author talking about the series and individual books on Newspapers.com and several things more or less saying it was published and little else. They contain little evaluative material and are questionable independence wise but would be useful for building the article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Oppression Remedy

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Found no sigcov on this book. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Couldn't find additional sources, though the search is murky as 'The Oppression Remedy' is a more common term. However, it's also telling that this article has been tagged as unsourced since 2009. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Man for All Islands

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No sigcov anywhere. Redirect to author Royston Ellis? PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Legends of Skyfall

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I could not find coverage for either the series or any of its individual books. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:05, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Nothing on ProQuest, short mentions on Newspapers.com, found no full reviews. I haven't checked the individual titles however, so please ping me if sources come up. Thanks, ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 10:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Walls Came Tumbling Down (Wilson book)

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No sigcov found. Redirect to author Robert Anton Wilson?

FWIW this is not "a film script", it's a novel written like a film script. I think. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect: Couldn't find any reviews on ProQuest/newspapers.com (not that the false positives made things any easier). ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 10:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep, yes, it was an unused film script that Wilson published as a book. Wilson is one of the giants of counter-culture writers of the 20th century and is known (far, but not wide) as one of the centuries important writers. All Wilson articles should be kept as the works of a major author. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:31, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Randy Kryn He may be well known but he is far from satisfying NBOOK #5. NBOOK 5 is designed for someone so significant that their bibliography as a whole is a subject of study. When we have literally nothing to say on it, no analysis, no content - hell, the plot summary is even minimal, why have a page except for the sake of having one? Do you know of any sigcov?

I am an inclusionist when it comes to books but this doesn't fulfill the relatively lax book standards PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect: I found one mention of the book in a Vancouver Sun article on ProQuest, but it's discussing Wilson's career without SIGCOV of the book. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:11, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitab-Verlag

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I can't find anything on this book publisher to establish its notability. The one source in the page is brief but reliable, but only one source, in addition to one I added which is also brief. However as with all book publishing companies finding sources is extremely annoying as there are many usages of it when books it published were cited by others, so there could be other things out there. They seem to be not insignificant so it's possible. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Google search on News brings entirely nothing. Its article on de-wiki only shows two sources which are not reliable sources as one is its own website and the other redirects to the very same web. I couldn't find news etc., but was able to find mentions of the company in its books it publishes. I will go with delete for now.-Tumbuka Arch (talk) 20:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black Liberation and Palestine Solidarity

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No sigcov anywhere, no reviews, I found it cited a few places but no commentary. Redirect to author Lenni Brenner? PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Black-Palestinian solidarity. I haven't found sigcov of this volume either. I don't think a redirect is appropriate in this case, since this is a reasonable search term for the broad topic, which is notable. Our article on it is at Black-Palestinian solidarity, and this title should redirect there instead of to Lenni Brenner. -- asilvering (talk) 01:40, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I originally made this as a delete vote, but I'm changing it to redirect since I don't see any good reason to delete the history. -- asilvering (talk) 02:40, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Asilvering: Found nothing other than the mentioned cites on ProQuest. Nil elsewhere online as well. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 13:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Should not redirect and instead Delete.~~ Cant find useful reviews either. ~~The redirect target is to a broader topic and this is a book.~~ Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bluethricecreamman The content of what used to be the redirect don't matter, it's the name, and there really isn't any pressing need to delete the page history PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OHH. for some reason read it as "merge" i guess and didnt realize. Whoops.

Redirect! Bluethricecreamman (talk) 01:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cop Tales 2000

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Could find nothing on this book except the single source already in the article, which is not enough. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Without additional sourcing, this fails WP:NBOOK, and as a collection of works by multiple authors, a WP:ATD-R option faces WP:XorY problems. -2pou (talk) 00:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Couldn't find reviews through PW, LJ, Booklist, Kirkus, or ProQuest. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The East Is Blue

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This is an article on an essay in a book which itself does not have an article. In all fairness the book itself is notable but no one bothered to write an article on it where I would typically suggest something like this be merged. The essay has a few newspaper articles taking note of it (still mostly in the context of the book, and largely before the book released, but outside of the times piece they mostly read as press release adjacent and are very short. I think the times piece is fine but it's the only thing), and nothing else except passing non-sigcov mentions, not enough for gng. Redirect to Salman Rushdie? Unless someone wants to write an article on the book? I probably would if this was about any other topic. I'm not particularly strong on delete but I feel this is a strange situation. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to Salman Rushdie#Essays and nonfiction, where the vast majority of his essays don't have articles. fa:شرق_غمگین_است doesn't demonstrate notability either. It's been 20 years since article creation. It's not like WP is losing anything by removing this two-sentence this-essay-exists stub. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: https://www.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/09porn.htm (https://www.news24.com/news24/rushdie-praises-porn-20040808) https://reason.com/2004/08/10/the-salacious-verses/ ; mentioned in https://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-ed-porn01sep01-story.html, https://wwd.com/feature/exposing-the-exposed-701043-1930810/ ; at the very least redirect to Salman_Rushdie#Essays_and_nonfiction -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of those sources provide SIGCOV of the essay itself. Rediff, News24, Reason, and LA Times have a quote from the essay and some information about Rushdie and/or the book. WWD only provides a sentence about the essay. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW there was a source on... newspapers.com I think, that I thought looked like sigcov, so that would make two, but this is an essay in a book and not the actual book so I don't think NBOOK rules apply. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, there's really nothing to say in this article besides the fact it exists, which is not useful to anyone. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Hadjnix 12:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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