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Browns Mill, Virginia

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Insignificant locality in Fairfax County, Virginia. WP:BEFORE yields only SEO junk and results for the eponymous road. Waddles 🗩 🖉 02:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Colchester Hunt, Virginia

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Unsourced article for an insignificant residential subdivision in Fairfax County, Virginia. WP:BEFORE yields nothing aside from real estate websites and local Facebook group on Google and nothing useful at all from ["Colchester Hunt, Virginia" site:newspapers.com searching Newspapers.com].

I am also nominating the following articles for the same reasons, being that they are insignificant residential subdivisions:

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Gunpowder weapons in the Bahmani Sultanate

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Not enough independent significant coverage to warrant a standalone article. Sections are just filled with images and no contents whatsoever. Garudam ^Talk! 23:01, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Garudam, this is quite ridiculous. Can you please remove this AfD from the lists it has nothing to do with? By my count that would leave a maximum of five. Thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kudamuck

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Subject does not appear notable. Searching for "Kudamuck" on Google returns literally zero reliable, independent sources. Also, the last sentence of the article arguably meets the "patent nonsense" criterion for speedy deletion ("There are many castes, religions, depart here"). Stephen Hui (talk) 06:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pazhassi's Cave

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A less referenced version already exists in draftspace. A WP:BEFORE search turned up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nowruz-e Ali

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Mass-created abadi article by Carlossuarez46. On the day he created this article, he created at least 450 others. I say "at least" because upwards of 20,000 C46 articles have been deleted already, and these won't show up in this search. No known location beyond the general area, appears to possibly be a store in the city of Izeh - the Iranian census is often counted around land-marks and potentially in this case this was simply the count of people around this store. Without a known location it is impossible to verify that this is an actual community and not just a census-counting-unit. FOARP (talk) 11:36, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Snou Strait

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No refs on the page for many years. Many other language wikis have pages but I'm not seeing usable reliable sources to cite. I'm not finding much else, but I don't speak any of the relevant languages, I would be interested to see if anyone can find anything which would meet the GNG JMWt (talk) 11:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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cpmment I would say merge to Chyornye Bratya except that the one source I saw of any merit (the second listed in the Russian article) doesn't support the claims made. But whatever we say about this strait clearly belongs in that article. Mangoe (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this name doesn't seem to be used in English literature, so I'm actually thinking delete. Mangoe (talk) 00:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few more citations in the Russian article about Henry James Snow, ru:Сноу, Генри Джеймс. It cites https://webcitation.org/6ELOwHZxN?url=http://www.kurilsk-adm.ru/index.php?option=com_content#mon3#mon3 for the claim that the strait and volcano are named after him. The Japanese page about the islands, ja:知理保以島, seems to have the same place as Rakku Strait (猟虎水道, rakku suidō, 'sea otter waterway/channel/strait'), with a broken citation link. I would: 1. spell it as Snow; 2. rather than using the name unqualified, say something like "known in Russian as the 'Snow Strait' (Russian: пролив Сноу, romanized: proliv Snou)"; 3. make this a redirect (or I guess you say a merge but there's not much of a difference). Adumbrativus (talk) 09:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tarneit Plains, Victoria

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This article's existence is based on a false premise. Tarneit Plains is not a suburb of Victoria, as claimed in the article. An official map of suburbs in the City of Melton can be found at [1] (linked from [2]) and there is no entry for Tarneit Plains. There is a "Precinct Structure Plan" called Tarneit Plains, but PSPs do not correspond to suburbs and are rarely article-worthy. Redirection is not a suitable option as the article title is formatted like a place name, when there is no such place. This, that and the other (talk) 09:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The sources do not show that "The suburb was gazetted and approved by the Victorian government in 2017." Tarneit Plains is not on the City of Melton list of suburbs or the Land Use Victoria locality maps. Steelkamp (talk) 08:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jadden, Indiana

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According to Baker, a post office named after the postmaster. Nothing much there exacpt a couple of houses, so no reason to beleive it was more than that. Mangoe (talk) 00:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Post offices have to pass either WP:NCORP or WP:NBUILDING, and this passes neither. There is no evidence of an actual community at this location named "Jadden" for a WP:GEOLAND pass either. FOARP (talk) 20:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Straight Point

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No refs on the page for many years. Seems to be used as a point of geographical reference for the Aylesbeare Mudstone Group geological formation, with passing mentions in the scientific literature. But to me, the existence of a headland is not notable and mentions of a named point on a map in the scientific literature isn't enough to meet the notability criteria either. JMWt (talk) 17:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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keep: There are several articles for places along the Jurassic Coast that are similarly short in length, and perhaps similarly deficient in citations. I'm not keen on treating any one article (e.g. this "Straight Point") in isolation from the others; instead I would rather consider a course of action common to all the Jurassic Coast articles (see the J.C. template at the end of the article). I would certainly look favourably on a proposal to stubify those are deficient in the way you identify, and I would volunteer:

to do the work of stubification
try to find a cite or two for those that might need it (dusting off my now rather rusty geology degree).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Feline Hymnic (talk • contribs) 18:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Hello friend, thanks for engaging. I appreciate your offer to improve the page, if you could supply some sources that show the notability of this feature, that would be very helpful to the discussion. Please see WP:ATA if you are unfamiliar with the AfD process. JMWt (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep: Yes indeed that is very true, there are a number of articles about places along the Jurassic Coast that are very much as short in length, and, indeed, they are similarly deficient in citations. I also thank you for your suggestion and I sincerlely hope that you will keep to your proposal and expand the article. This because I find your offer to improve the page as a much better solution than a deletion. I wish you good fortune with your new project. Greetings --Huligan0 (talk) 21:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or Draftify for Feline Hymnic to work on. I'm failing to find anything on this point which suggests it passes WP:GEONATURAL. We don't keep articles because other similarly deficient articles also exist (WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), and looking at List of places on the Jurassic Coast wouldn't suggest we're dealing with a complete set anyway (not that it would matter if we were) Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 10:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GEONATURAL - clearly discussed in Geology of the Jurassic Coast and West Country Cruising Companion along with a geology book from the 1910s along with other sources, already a start-class article (references have been WP:HEYed, and GEONATURAL is a very permissive notability guideline. Absolutely no reason to delete this. SportingFlyer T·C 01:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, none of the added sources are significant coverage. I agree that the headland is used as a waypoint in various publications, that doesn't make it notable. JMWt (talk) 08:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fox, Indiana

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I'm not sure what Baker means by "this village was apparently never platted," but in any case the maps and aerials show yet another rail spot/late pre-RFD post office. Baker also says that it was originally called "Fox Station", which leads to the same conclusion: a town never actually happened here. Mangoe (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly just a onetime post office and/or rail waypoint, not a community. Interestingly, the 2019 USGS topo says there is a "Fox Station Airport" nearby: [3], quite a grandiose name for a strip of mowed grass in a farm field, which is what shows up in the satellite view. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No evidence this was ever really a community. FOARP (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gover Stream

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No refs hatnote since 2022 but it doesn't appear that there have been any sources on the page since creation in, I think, 2006.

I don't see sources that show this small feature meets the notability criteria. It seems that Gover Valley 'might' be notable but it doesn't seem to me that even a rename of this page would help as it includes a lot of material that isn't verifiable. JMWt (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete We had to deal with a bunch of German "bachs" (streams) a few years ago, and this isn't even that good. Those at least could be seen, whereas I'm having considerable difficult finding this one at all, whether on GMaps or on the OS server. There are a couple of GBook hits, but they all deal with it in a single sentence. Mangoe (talk) 16:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cole, Indiana

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Baker only talks about the post office, and yes, there's no sign of a town here. Mangoe (talk) 23:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly a non-notable locale. TH1980 (talk) 02:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wildflower, California

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One of Carlossuarez46's mass-created articles based on GNIS, an unreliable source. On the same day they created this article, they created 129 other articles. No evidence that this was ever more than the store at the cross-roads that is presently called "Wild Flower", and which would have had a post-office in it for the use of people passing by. To be notable, stores and post-offices need to pass WP:NCORP, which is clearly not passed.

Was PROD'd and de-PROD'd last year since the de-PRODer thought it might pass GEOLAND. Briefly, this article fails WP:GEOLAND due to lack of legal recognition (e.g., incorporation as a town) and WP:GNG due to the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. FOARP (talk) 11:17, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence that this passes WP:GNG or that there is actually a community there other than the Wild Flower Market (store). The common name also complicates searching for information. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arcana, Indiana

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A no-there-there spot consistent with being a 4th class post office, not a town. Mangoe (talk) 02:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of WP:SIGCOV to satisfy WP:GNG. starship.paint (talk / cont) 05:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There is no evidence that there was ever anything more than a post-office at this location. Post offices are covered by WP:NCORP which this obviously fails. FOARP (talk) 15:22, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Flip^and Flopped ツ 21:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

White River, Indiana

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Here is why I don't trust Baker very far. The GNIS entry comes from a misread label on the maps: you can see that it's the wrong font for a settlement. Baker calls it a village but there is another town (East Mount Carmel) just to the east, actually on land even. This is seriously wrong and obviously not real. Mangoe (talk) 22:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - there is no evidence of WP:SIGCOV of a community and the existence of the actual river complicates finding information about this. starship.paint (talk / cont) 07:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No evidence of legal recognition needed for a GEOLAND pass, no evidence of a GNG pass either. FOARP (talk) 11:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Doesn't appear on topo maps until 1959: [4], and as nom said the font and formatting suggest a township and not a settlement. Clearly a lazy overinterpretation of GNIS used to pad out a fluffy, poorly-researched book. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Another non-notable locale. TH1980 (talk) 02:33, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mounts, Indiana

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Here again we have some citation abuse, because the "whistle stop" line doesn't come from the county history; it comes from Baker. The page in the county history doesn't mention the place at all, just the person. Meanwhile Baker, yes, promotes this to a village, and again there's just no evidence on the ground for that. It's just another isolated station, as far as I can tell. Mangoe (talk) 12:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no concrete evidence of a community, and the generic name complicates the ability to find WP:SIGCOV information on the topic. starship.paint (talk / cont) 10:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Nothing at the location. Not verifiable. Appears to have been no more than a station/post office. FOARP (talk) 20:31, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darrah, California

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Mass-created article by Carlossuarez46, who created 159 articles on the same day as this one. Fails GEOLAND, no evidence that this was ever a legally-recognised populated place. GNIS is not a reliable source for a place having been populated, per WP:GNIS and the RSN discussion.

This was a declined PROD from last year with the comment "isn't a post office evidenence this was once a populated place?". To answer this, no it isn't, because especially in the 19th and early 20th centuries, post-offices could be located anywhere, particularly within stores/mines/railway stations etc. that were located outside populated communities. Opening of a post office anyway does not confer legal recognition as a populated place - for that incorporation as a town or similar is needed. In this case, based on what can be seen there now, it appears to have been a single building located at a cross roads - probably a store or way-station in which the post office was located. Of course all this assumes that the Durham reference actually says what C46 cited it as saying - they repeatedly misquoted/misrepresented it.

Looking at Internet Archive and Newspapers.com for sources about "Darrah, California" returned no relevant results. I did consider redirecting/renaming this to Darrah Park, which is now at this location, but I couldn't find any reliable sources sufficient to meet WP:GEOFEAT for Darrah Park - for example here's the internet archive search for Darrah Park and here's a search on Newspapers.com. FOARP (talk) 09:10, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete (Note: I was the one who PRODed the article last year). I stand by my earlier reasoning. Note that all hits in the Internet Archive for Darrah Park are either for different parks, or for people named Darrah Park (I couldn't access the newspapers.com results). So I don't think a rename/redirect makes much sense. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete There is no "Darrah Park" per se; the county website lists it as a "facility" named "Darrah Schoolhouse". Basically it's a hall you can rent which is indeed the old schoolhouse shown on topos. Everything else, including those maps, says that it was a 4th class post office. One of us (it wasn't me) got a copy of Durham, and yeah, he was frequently misrepresented, but I note that really only the post office info is cited to him anyway. Mangoe (talk) 15:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Mangoe - I think WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is pretty clear about schools not being automatically notable, if that's what this location is/was. FOARP (talk) 16:07, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas, Indiana

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Another rail point/post office elevated to a village by Baker. The facts on the ground and on maps aren't as ironclad on this one, but there is a lack of positive evidence beyond Baker's statement. Mangoe (talk) 03:02, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I'm pretty sceptical when the only evidence that this place was ever a community is the single word "village" used in a one-paragraph description. Particularly when no incorporation ever happened, to be platted means that plans for a town at the location were filed, but that does not mean those plans were ever necessarily realised. The fact that the two names for this place (Maxams, Douglas) were simply the name of the post master during their period strongly suggests that this was only ever a post office - that is, not a community, but a single building or store. If an ATD is needed a redirect/merge to Center Township, Gibson County, Indiana can be done, but the reality is the only verifiable information that can be merged there is the name of the post master, which is surely not WP:DUE. FOARP (talk) 14:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:35, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Das verfluchte Jungfernloch

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I don't believe this is notable. It is mentioned as existing in folklore, which it does. However, these references don't feel notable to me. IDK, y'all help me out! Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep my German isn't very good, but there's references to this cave in books on a quick Google search and caves have very low notability thresholds. "These references don't feel notable to me" is a bad deletion rationale. SportingFlyer T·C 07:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me clarify that. When I did my before search, I could only find sources that resolved to one or two sources. These were fairytales form around 1850-ish. However, there wasn't coverage of the cave. It might be worth having a article on the fairytale, but the current article dosent have adequate sourcing. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep You're really looking for a pass of WP:GEOLAND here, and there's plenty out there to pass that. I'll note the German page is 'Verfluchtes Jungfernloch' and searching that gets a load more hits. It's a cave, it's in Eisenach. We're home and dry, mateys... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wilson's Cave

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Links in ref's are broken, and all the info is sourced from the one referenced book. That book list many, many caves, and inclusion does not make this one notable. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep See [5] Page 18 and [6] page 276: "a site of major archaeological significance". The cave contained mammoth bones, implements, Neolithic ware and bronze rings from 600 BC. Or possibly redirect to Gorham's Cave. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second is a clear passing mention, first has some merit. The mere presence of bones doesn't make something notable, and this is passing converage.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is some confusion with Gorham's Cave. If they are the same, redirect. Otherwise, first ref and existing refs is enough to keep. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Upper All's Well Cave

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Clearly nonotable. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The content and image are worth keeping if minimal; I think these should be merged to some larger article in my opinion. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What should be the merge target?

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