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Forrest Lake (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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While there are a number of Neighborhoods in Houston articles, this particular one looks to be more of a promo page for an everyday housing development, rather than an actual geo/socio region. In fact the header alone says it is within "the greater Inwood Area". I don't think this particular collection of townhomes is notable in any way. Hornpipe2 (talk) 17:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Springs, Texas (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced article about a community I can find next to nothing on. -Samoht27 (talk) 04:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep — I also just noticed this, via the TSHA (Texas State Historical Association) source now listed in the article. According to the sources, this town has been there for more than a century and is still populated. — Maile (talk) 21:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment I can find no evidence that the census provided a separate count for this place in either 1970 or 1990. By the latter date the CDP system was in place, and there's no claim that this is one. In 1970 the cutoff for unincorporated places to be reported separately was 5000, which this place isn't claimed to meet. Mangoe (talk) 05:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Catchment area (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Disambiguation page not required (WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use. De-prodded (correctly) by @GB fan: with edit summary "remove PROD, was previously PRODed 20:13, 10 June 2014‎‎‎ and later removed, must go to WP:AFD". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kugelmugel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No clear indication of notability, does not pass WP:GNG. All search for references show cursory mentions in "List of Micronations" or "List of places to go in Vienna" Soni (talk) 11:18, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kugelmugel was mentioned in 'Atlas Obscura' book. In german wiki there is a section 'Reactivation' and reference to viennese 'Kronen Zeitung' of 30th May 2004, that it has 'opened its borders with Austria'. Might be more notable than most of micronations. Kolijars (talk) 21:35, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oh, not 2004 but 2024 it is :) -> Kronen Zeitung, Wien-Ausgabe vom 30. Mai 2024, Seite 29. Kolijars (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If kept the article should be reworked to be about the unusual house rather than a micronation. The dewiki article begins with "Kugelmugel is a spherical house with a diameter of 8 metres..." Drop the micronation infobox. Reywas92Talk 15:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Some of the sources linked in the article (like the first and third) don't even mention "Godenu". The fourth source mentions Godenu only once, as the "Gbi-Godenu Volta Region IFAD/SCIMP Project", seemingly a different thing. The second source does mention Godenu, but it's pretty brief. Other sources linked aren't reliable or aren't independent. I can find mentions of Godenu, like in this article, but that's it. toweli (talk) 16:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lilingayon, Bukidnon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article fails WP:NPLACE as it lacks WP:SIGCOV only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 12:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of disparaging nicknames for settlements (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This should be deleted per WP:NLIST as "List of disparaging nicknames for settlements" is not notable as a set. There has been insufficient discussion of the set in reliable sources which establishes its notability as a set. Also per WP:NOTDICTIONARY "Wikipedia is not a dictionary, or a usage or jargon guide". TarnishedPathtalk 11:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leading towards Weak Keep per WP:GAZETTEER but only weak as it may violates WP:NOTDICTIONARY Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural note: This really should have been nominated for deletion before Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of disparaging nicknames for settlements in the United States. I recommend any potential closer consider the outcome (or lack thereof) of that discussion before taking action here. --BDD (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This page had a very specific and unusual origin. Disparaging nicknames for places kept coming up at WP:RFD, and there was a lack of consensus on how to treat them. While redirects don't have to be neutral, pointing them to the places seemed unsatisfying because there typically wasn't any information about the name, which meant there was potential for reader confusion. The result was this list, where context and references could be provided for the names. Consensus can change, of course, but deletion risks reintroducing that problem to RFD. --BDD (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pinging @InvadingInvader, Clarityfiend, All in, Just Step Sideways, Qwirkle, Sgeureka, OwenX, Bearian, JPxG, and Maile66: as editors involved in a similar discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of disparaging nicknames for settlements in the United States particularly given some of you have !voted to merge to this article. TarnishedPathtalk 03:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • If we are going to have this content, then one list is best: everything should be as simple as possible, but not simpler. Bearian (talk) 08:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete What little content in both of these lists is actually attributed to relaible sources can and shoud be merged into the articles in the settlements themselves. The rest is not properly sourced and therefore should not be hosted anywhere on Wikipedia. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If the disparaging nickname isn't noteworthy enough to warrant mention in the article (and thus require a redirect to a placeholder article) then it has no any actual connection to the topic. We don't need to collect them here unless there are sources that show this grouping itself to be notable. czar 14:15, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • IMHO given the backstory provided by BDD, I'd suggest that we post some sort of discussion regarding disparaging nicknames to VPP. But if we are to discuss here (and you're more than welcome to copy over my thoughts and responses from here to there if such discussion is created), despite of TarnishedPath's NLIST and WWIN arguments, I concur with BDD think that if we delete the landfill, we end up littering the rest of the city, and creating a ton of new RFDs, which even though redirects are cheap, can overflow RFD like crazy. Furthermore, given the cultural relevance of many disparaging nicknames (such as Michigan being "That State Up North" to Ohioans), we might get a ton of people who create that redirect, only for it to be brought up at RFD over and over again. It might be best to keep not because it complies with policy, but as an exception to it, as containment rather than deletion would be better overall for this problem given that it is near-certain that this issue just won't stay dead. If it requires that we change policy in order to do so, procedurally it might be a drag, but I don't see a reason as to why we aren't capable of doing so. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 15:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The existence of the article doesn't stop unnecessary redirects in and of itself. I'm failing to see why we should have an exception to policy. TarnishedPathtalk 23:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for same reason i specified on the USA-based list (u t c m l ) 🔒 ALL IN 🧿 22:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thomas, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All that's here is a farm whose three long barns (I'm guessing for hogs?) haven't changed in a half-century, and the south end of a passing siding. It is the latter that is likely the cause for the name. Mangoe (talk) 09:12, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Fails WP:N. Alexeyevitch(talk) 21:05, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Waco, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The only structure at this crossroads is the Waco Church of Christ, which seems to have been the case for a very long time. Baker describes it as a post office, and I could find nothing on the place: the one thing that looked like a hit turns out to be in a different town. Mangoe (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. Shellwood (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Good number of hits on Newspapers.com for "Waco Daviess", including a 1999 obit that describes Waco as a small community [2]. Also many articles were published about Perry Baldwin, a country dentist who lived there [3]. One such article states "Just by tolerance the map makers have left Waco on the map. The average motorist wouldn't know when he passed thru. If you could put one point of a pair of dividers on Waco you could swing the instrument in a 20-mile radius before touching an honest-to-gosh town." and goes on to say the only reason people visit is for a log cabin dental office. [4] -- Cerebral726 (talk) 18:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of ASEAN countries and subdivisions by minimum wage (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article seems to be entirely based on original research. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTDATABASE. this falls under WP:NOTSTAT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Similar with page List of countries by minimum wage and List of first-level administrative divisions by GRDP, they also contain original research. if this page was delete, kindly to delete those page too. Warm Regards. Applaused (talk) 21:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:CRUFTCRUFT, and WP:SIMPLYLINKINGTOAPOLICYPAGEDOESNOTCONSTITUTEANARGUMENTTHATSOMETHINGFAILSTOCOMPLYWITHTHEPOLICY. jp×g🗯️ 06:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Similar with page List of countries by minimum wage and List of first-level administrative divisions by GRDP, they also contain original research. if this page was delete, kindly to delete those page too. Warm Regards. Applaused (talk) 11:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also this page will continue to expand to provinces, states, etc for teh future. Already have the source. Applaused (talk) 11:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pakri pakohi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to show this meets WP:NPLACE / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 21:53, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mifflin, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Another case where it appears to have been only a post office. No other info found. Mangoe (talk) 16:48, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Temple, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The cited history calls this Temple Station, which is what it looks like. I'm not seeing evidence it ever actually developed into a town. Mangoe (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

jengod (talk) 07:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Jengod, is this a vote to Keep this article?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, along with all the other articles on unincorporated places. What is the point of these? If anyone thinks they are worth having at all, could they not be moved to a new article List of unincorporated places, with appropriate sub-headings Indiana etc.?
  • Pinging User:Jengod since I neglected to in my relisting statement. Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Liz thanks for the ping. it's definitely not a keep vote. I love expanding geo-stubs and ghost towns articles to save them from deletion, but this one has a vanishingly thin trail, and is probably not encyclopedic, but I just don't have any enthusiasm for it either way. If someone wanted to improve it, maybe those links could help? I'm an inclusionist for the most part so my personal bar to actively vote delete is very high. jengod (talk) 23:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, simply because there is a paper trail and there's many, many other communities that don't even have that, much less any info about it written on Wikipedia. It is also listed on Google Maps as Temple. SouthernDude297 (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
List of disparaging nicknames for settlements in the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Scope is vague and due to the nature of the article it attracts unsourced information to be added (u t c m l ) 🔒 ALL IN 🧿 16:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. Opinion is divided between Delete, Merge and Keep. We need to come to a consensus here.
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Keep per InvadingInvader. Who cares if it is trivia? At worst it can be merged. I don't know what genuine benefit it gives to ask whether there is a WP:LISTN source for specifically disparaging place names in the United States -- either it's too big to be in the main article and it should stay out, or it fits into the main article and it should be spun back into it. But the stuff I see here has sources and I don't really see a great argument for why it needs to go, other than it's bad in some nebulous way. jp×g🗯️ 06:53, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Final relist.
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