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Anne Sofie Madsen

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Borderline notability, subject requests deletion,Ticket:2024091410007147. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 00:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Do you have any details on the VRT request, CaptainEek? Any reason for why they would be against the article? Since nothing in it seems negative. And I would not call her borderline notable, since she's one of the biggest names in fashion. It's just that the coverage of her is almost entirely not in English. But outside of most every fashion magazine in the world covering her, she also receives mainstream coverage from newspapers of record. For example:

So I'd really like some more information on this one before making a decision. Because I'm currently leaning toward too notable and well known for WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE to matter. Silver seren^C 01:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren The issue seems to be one of inaccuracy and the sources being out of date; most of them are over a decade old. I made a few corrections to the article, but her overall concern is that the article is now so out of date with her resume that potential employers google her and think her CV is fake because her more recent achievements are not on her Wikipedia. I think this is a problem we often encounter with BLP's: their article is frozen in time at a point when they had coverage, and doesn't reflect who they are now, but there isn't enough new coverage to update with. A problem that grows as Wikipedia reaches the 25 year mark. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 01:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That seems like an argument for expansion, not for deletion. Unless we're going to be deleting a ton of articles for being out of date. There's sources available. There's this from Vogue on her Tokyo 2017 collection. There's this from Women's Wear Daily on her Paris 2018 collection. There's this from Woman.dk and this from Fashion Forum about her 2021 collection collaboration with Lulu Kaalund. I got all that from just a quick Google search without even knowing anything about how to search for Danish, French, or Japanese sources. Silver seren^C 01:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the VRT agent for that ticket, and CaptainEek's characterization is correct. She has provided only vague objections about things being incorrect, nothing specific. I have asked her to use WP:Edit Request Wizard to identify specific things to fix on the talk page, but she seems to want a VRT agent to do the research and fix things for her. The creator of the article even invites people to contact her directly and includes her email on her user page, but the article subject has not engaged with her. Yes, the subject of the article wants it deleted because she isn't famous, but the sources already cited suggest she's clearly notable, which isn't the same thing as fame. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So the argument on her end is more of the "not a celebrity level fame", rather than the "rather well known designer in a field level fame" that she actually is, it seems. I still think this is fully fixable in the article, though it would definitely be helpful if she was willing to work with us on that. Since I'm sure she's more personally aware of the fashion news sources covering her more recent work than any of us are. Silver seren^C 02:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I have received an email from the subject and have asked for further details. At this stage, I am not sure if she would prefer deletion or correction.--Ipigott (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion would be an option if she was borderline notable or the article was a hit job, but neither case applies here. The notability seems pretty clear, and the article isn't negative either. If an article about a notable subject is deleted, someone else will eventually come along and write another article. Improvement is really the best past forward. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moliere Dimanche

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Articles for deletion/Moliere Dimanche

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This is a copy of Draft:Moe Dimanche which the creator of both articles, User:NovembersHeartbeat, submitted to Articles for Creation back in September. This user has now made a new article, Moliere Dimanche, to bypass the AfC process, and redirected Moe Dimanche to lead back to this article. I have suspicions about WP:COI that I have expressed on NovembersHeartbeat's talk page (Dimanche is running to be Governor of Florida, which provides a clear motivation). NovembersHeartbeat also created Dimanche v. Brown for a legal case Dimanche was prominent within, and I am now also considering this for deletion. I would like some external advice on whether any of these articles pass WP:GNG as I am not well versed on American legal stuff like this. Spiralwidget (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for initiating this discussion. I would like to address some concerns raised in the nomination statement: My contributions to Wikipedia have been neutral, informative, and edited by Admins. I like editing on Wikipedia because I like spreading knowledge. My contributions include the Federal Magistrates Act, the JUDGES Act, and I'm currently putting together a page on the concept of Unsettled Law. These are topics that serve public interest and make people wiser, and why people rely on wikipedia more than any other source of enlightenment. This user SpiralWidget on the other hand has had his pages deleted because he abandoned them for 6 months. I take the spread of knowledge seriously, and I am grateful for the opportunity to do so.

Redirects and Related Articles: The user SpiralWidget says he has conflict of interest concerns, which were addressed when he first started editing the page Moe Dimanche. I think his primary reason for nominating the article for deletion is because it is a duplicate page. However, the wikipedia deletion policy specifically says

"If two pages are duplicates or otherwise redundant, one should be merged and redirected to the other, using the most common, or more general page name. This does not require process or formal debate beforehand."

But SpiralWidget moved the redirect page anyway because he wanted a formal discussion. The redirect Moe Dimanche was created to aid navigation for users searching under this common nickname. As for Dimanche v. Brown, it is a separate topic with its own independent notability, as demonstrated by coverage in legal publications and its significance in state-level jurisprudence. These articles serve distinct purposes and are appropriately created. 2. Conflict of Interest: I have no personal or professional connection to Moliere Dimanche. The article was written to document a notable public figure in compliance with Wikipedia’s WP:COI and WP:NPOV guidelines. This was already explained to SpiralWidget, even though I do not owe him an explanation. I came across Mr. Dimanche's YouTube videos after a judge in my city reopened a death investigation into a death of an inmate at a local prison. The only videos I could find on that inmate were done by Mr. Dimanche's Youtube channel and I learned more about him and asked why there wasn't a wikipedia page about him. So I decided to do it, as I began to follow what was going on with him. I welcome further discussion on how to improve the article and ensure compliance with Wikipedia's policies. I hope my contributions to Wikipedia demonstrate how serious I am about expanding knowledge in the areas of law and civil rights. I hope to help those looking to navigating complex legal theories and civil rights. NovembersHeartbeat (talk) 16:01, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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This wall of text isn't going to advance your case. Please don't accuse other editors of vandalism without evidence. Cutlass ^Ciera 18:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG. Cutlass ^Ciera 18:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Marginally Keep While I share suspicions that this is self-promotion by the primary contributor or meatpuppetry by the subject, I find that this does meet the general criteria for inclusion. Though not all the detail is necessary, the case cited does lend credence to the idea that the case and the subject of the case is notable enough; the precedent set is not nontrivial. Given the numerous local sources (admittedly probably pushing their own agenda), I think it marginally meets the threshold for inclusion. I would strongly advise User:NovembersHeartbeat to back off for a few days and likewise recant/strike his remarks about "vandalism". This is not "your" article. It is open to anyone to edit and improve within our guidelines. Buffs (talk) 22:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marginal keep When I first came across this draft in AfC, I refrained from reviewing as the notability seemed marginal–it could've gone both ways. However, I do feel that there are some significant coverage of him as an artist, but this article needs to be ridden of fluff and promotion. [1] I also found this book by Nicole R. Fleetwood that discusses his art in detail. Ca ^{talk to me!} 02:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Janski_Beeeats

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Articles for deletion/Janski Beeeats

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Does not meet notability requirements for WP:MUSICBIO or WP:CREATIVE. Further notes: 750 monthly listeners on spotify, 3014 followers on soundcloud, 6.8k followers on facebook, 1.8 subscribers on youtube, 1543 followers on instagram, 126 followers on X. Can't find record of artist in french music charts. One album on an indie label (Police Records) second album 'Holiday' appears to be self published via Distrokid. One song on a movie soundtrack (Missions, 2017). Award mentioned was won at a music fesitval - no mention of these awards on that festival's wikipedia page, so it doesn't seem to meet the 'major music award' requirement. Real name: Jean-Sébastien Vermalle (573 monthly listeners on spotify)- appears to have details on imbd but little other internet coverage. SallyRenee (talk) 05:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr. Nawa Raj Subba

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Not meeting WP:BLP. Not a single in depth coverage of the subject in any neutral source. Rahmatula786 (talk) 05:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and salt: There has been no independent news media coverage or reliable sources about this person since the article was created in 2009 and salted in 2017. Subject does not pass GNG or NBIO Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails GNG guidelines. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 07:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt. He has published stuff buy nobody seems to have cited it. Xxanthippe (talk) 08:05, 1 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Delete - fails WP:NBIO. Salt, based on repeated attempts to create the article. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mitch Kern

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It appears that this Calgary-based photographer and academic does not meet NARTIST nor GNG for inclusion. It has been almost entirely edited by single purpose accounts that have only edited this article along with a series of WP:SPA IPs from Calgary that added unsourced personal/professional content (now largely cleaned up). The sourcing is almost entirely non-independent primary sources. The article was recently PROD'ed, then de-prodded by one of the IPs. Then IPs from the same range twice removed two maintenance tags (notability, primary sources) without fixing the issues. There is one article on him in the Real Estate section of a local lifestyle paper which is largely an interview (primary). This leaves one good independent source in McCleans on a pinhole camera he uses with his students. I can't find anything to substantiate NACADEMIC, zero hits on Google Scholar. Basically the article shows that he is a photographer with an MFA degree, and a teaching job WP:MILL, but is he notable per WP-criteria? Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No notability of any sort. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Delete fails GNG, NARTIST, NACADEMIC. No acceptable sources are available that would indicate notability for this person. I am not seeing anything that shows this subject qualifies for an independent article on Wikipedia. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:27, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can't find any evidence that his work is in the collections of multiple notable museums, has been the subject of significant non-local press, or would otherwise pass WP:ARTIST. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:20, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete - I see this reliable source, but it falls short of significant coverage in multiple sources. Bearian (talk) 02:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack C. Mancino

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This article about an Hungarian-born British artist, actor and musician is poorly sourced. Large sections of text are unreferenced. There are seven inline citations, of which five are to IMDb. The one to the Chicago Tribune is geo-locked for me. The other just says "Feszültség és szabadság Lisszabonban", and has been tagged as needing a full citation since 2020. Googling the phrase led me to https://holdkatlan.hu/index.php/szemle/lapszemle/3559-feszultseg-es-szabadsag-lisszabonban which doesn't appear to mention this person, although I do not understand Hungarian. The list of external links doesn't include any reliable sources which could be added as references. I have carried out WP:BEFORE for Jack C. Mancino, Jack Mancino and the alternative name given, Balogh Csaba, and not found references to add. There is an artist called Csaba Balogh who may be notable, but his year and place of birth are different. I don't think this article demonstrates that Mancino meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NARTIST, WP:NACTOR or WP:NMUSICIAN. Tacyarg (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! 1. please clarify which "Large sections of text are unreferenced". The newly inserted sections are films and music will be sourced soon. IMDb is a good source for referencing filmographies. Can Soundcloud, Amazon, Spotify or Apple Music or any other streaming site for music be used for referencing discographies? Thank you for helping. 2. It is possible that the owner of the referenced link has changed their site that was correct when it was inserted. This page has been on Wikipedia more than 15 years. Karlmayer5000 (talk) 20:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The whole of the Biography section is unreferenced, as is the sub-section Early classical stage under Work, and the sub-section Music in the section Acting credits and accolades. IMDb is not a reliable source: see WP:IMDb. The other sites you mention are not reliable sources, but I don't believe discographies need sourcing - as with bibliographies, the existence of the works can be assumed. Tacyarg (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you very much. Can you please point me web platforms that qualifies as good source of references to understand the policies. Karlmayer5000 (talk) 06:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the reliable sources link and the guidance on your Talk page. The teahouse may also be helpful. Tacyarg (talk) 07:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jack C. Mancino has written several comic books. Can I link them as references in the section I am about to make on this page called: Author?

Source link: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jack-C-Mancino/author/B0BZJGN477?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true NorAnditoth5 (talk) 10:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amazon is not a reliable source. If there are reviews of these books in reliable sources, those would be appropriate references. Tacyarg (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Can't find any significant coverage anywhere. The first citation refers to this site, which does not provide significant coverage. The Tribune piece just contains a trivial mention. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:59, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the Chicago Tribune article he was mentioned by the writer in connection with a Hollywood photographer's art painting collection and in the article Mr. Mancino's works were positively compared to Jean-Michel Basquiat who was one of America's most iconic abstract artists. 37.76.13.207 (talk) 09:49, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please log in and only use a single account when commenting. (Assuming you are User:Karlmayer5000 and/or User:NorAnditoth5) The artist was only mentioned in a single sentence. A brief mention by a photographer is a clear example of trivial coverage, nowhere near the significant coverage requirement for a source to count towards notability as Wikipedia defines it. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have a message from Wiki not to comment with Karl Mayer,,,I dont know the reason. You guys look like just want to delete the article anyway so go ahead! Karlmayer5000 (talk) 07:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

wikipedia cant accept bio from the artists own mouth, that really needs an update, this article was created in 2009 used by wikipedia, there are many articles with much fewer sources still on wiki. Wiki must be about info and not about notability. Not every artist pays for mainstream articles to get attention. 2001:4C4E:28C4:3000:5DBE:155A:35DD:2FCE (talk) 08:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I am unable to find reliable sourcing for the biographical or artistic claims made in this article. Source assessment of current sources below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table
Source	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTK2uNBdUZE	self published interview	✘ No
Feszültség és szabadság Lisszabonba	incomplete citation	? Unknown
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2013/05/18/working-art-3/	paywall	? Unknown
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14840232/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8503240/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13094566/	IMDB	✘ No
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/148014120-felix-gruber	Goodreads listing	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Comment. NorAnditoth5 (talk · contribs), I'm a bit baffled by the reference you have just added to muveszkek.hu. When I put the article through translation, it says, in part, "Born in the heart of the Renaissance era, Mancino was an individual who dared to dream, to ask questions and dared to create". Mancino was not born during the Renaissance - is this a reliable source? Tacyarg (talk) 12:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evans Akere

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Both this article and Vanskere are promotional while relying on WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA. The same creator wrote both and also added the brand to Fashion in Nigeria 🄻 🄰 18:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: I see a little notablity but this is not yet ready for a standalone article. I would also say redirect to List of fashion designers if there is any support for it. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:41, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hans_Andre

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I believe the subject does not meet notability requirements. There is no article on the Swedish-language wikipedia. Of the five references provided, two are NY Arts Magazine which is, from what I can gather (and correct me if I'm wrong), a vanity publisher. SallyRenee (talk) 08:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: I've been unable to locate any decent Swedish sources in Swedish newspaper archives. It hardly matters if we can't verify the article, but the name is misspelled – it should be Hans André, not Hans Andre. /Julle (talk) 01:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ARTIST. Also chicken and egg situation: exact text as Concept Art Association. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WomenArtistUpdates: I took a look at the history and feel fairly confident that Concept Art Association has taken the text from Wikipedia and not the other way around, as the Wikipedia article grew piece by piece in several edits, rather than being inserted all at once (which would have been the case if it had been copied and pasted). /Julle (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Julle. Then the Concept Art Association bio cannot be used as source for the article. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Bowers

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Came across this article when I tried to link Mike Bowers in a draft I'm working on and linked to this instead. BLP article with no sources, appears to be written by someone with a COI given the specificity of some of the details. I did a search for sources and coverage but was unable to find anything. There is another musician with a similar name (Michael D. Bowers) who has some coverage, but that does not appear to be the person this article is about. 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Why doesn't the musician "Michael D. Bowers" that you mentioned have his own article if he has some coverage?

JekyllTheFabulous (talk) 22:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Lack of reliable sources so we are unable to prove notability. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 00:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing found for this singer in my search. Article is largely unsourced, so we have no way of confirming what's correct. Appears to be only a working musician, nothing for our notability purposes. Oaktree b (talk) 01:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Cannot find any reliable sources establishing notability. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 02:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not !voting, because I have six mutual friends on Facebook with his spouse, Siobhan Quinn, and we have probably met back in the early 2000s. In any case, to get to NBAND, there needs to be evidence of touring in reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 02:50, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]