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List of fictional rodents in animation

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A large majority of the list is completely unreferenced, a vast majority of the "notes" are unencyclopedic. May also fail Wikipedia:Listcruft. Sir MemeGod :D (talk - contribs - created articles) 15:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. A redirect back to List of fictional rodents would be fine, per WP:ATD and WP:AVOIDSPLIT. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of fictional rodents#Animation - The only reason this got so long that a split was necessary to begin with is because no attempt was being made to stick to any kind of criteria to limit it only to notable examples, on either this or the parent list. Remove the copious amounts of non-notable and dubious examples and condense the multiple entries that come from the same topic (i.e., have one entry for groups like The Chipmunks rather than listing them individually as separate entries), and it would fit neatly into the main list without the need for a split. This spinout list is very poorly sourced, so I'm not going to formally advocate for a Merge, but Redirecting will preserve the history here. Rorshacma (talk) 19:33, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, mostly fancruft and listcruft. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 03:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Pointless and fancrufty split. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Methos Chronicles

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There doesn't appear to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Note: there's a story by Don Anderson also titled "The Methos Chronicles", but it seems to be unrelated to this project, besides sharing the same character and name. And then there's also a "Highlander zine, "The Methos Chronicles," brought to you by Carol Ann Liddiard and Sheila Marie Lane", again, seemingly unrelated. toweli (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cannon (comics)

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Barely one legit entry, if that. No mention of Cannon in WildStorm article. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Cannon (disambiguation)#Other arts and entertainment. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there's only one comics entry there (the semi-valid entry here), why not redirect to that article directly? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as proposed. Raymond3023 (talk) 03:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon. – sgeureka ^t•c 17:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battleworld

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Non-notable article about a location composed of unreliable or primary sources. For WP:Before, a search showed only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries, without significant coverage or reception. Jontesta (talk) 18:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge and redirect to Secret Wars as the primary target for this fictional location, where adequate information is already covered. While arguments in the prior AfD from over a decade ago bringing up Battelworld's appearances in other related comics, I would argue that those have not received as much independent third-party coverage from reliable sources outside of its connections to the Secret Wars comics. Redirecting to the original Secret Wars comic instead of the 2015 one makes sense as the former also points to the latter comic with a dedicated section for it. I will also note that the Battleworld article has not improved much from the prior AfD and borders on pure WP:FANCRUFT, especially with its exhaustive list, as this is WP:NOTADIRECTORY. The other contents of Battleworld beyond Secret Wars can be adequately covered at those other comic articles, such as Beyond!, as brought up in the prior AfD. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - As the first and third Battleworlds have known locations, would you prefer that they be listed in the respectful Secret Wars articles? --Rtkat3 (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes, that would be the most optimal location for the relevant versions of this, although the main Battleworld stems from the original comic. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:27, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with the planets section of Features of the Marvel Universe if no worthy sources can be found by the day of this AFD closure.--Rtkat3 (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue merging a lot of content to that list would be a bit much for it, and it would be morel logical to point directly to a comic where it is an important aspect rather than shoehorning it into a list entry, which can be limiting. That entry should likely summarize the different versions from the various comics and point to those for more details. Trailblazer101 (talk) 23:29, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't you say in the last article that the respectful Battleworld descriptions would be listed in their respectful storyline appearances? Of course we can add the good parts of the Battleworld descriptions to it. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I did. However, the main topic would be the Secret Wars comic, not the Features list, from my understanding. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Secret Wars as primary target, per WP:ATD. It can be additionally noted at Features of the Marvel Universe. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Genesis

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Non-notable article about a location composed of unreliable or primary sources. For WP:Before, a search showed only trivial mentions and in-universe plot summaries, without significant coverage or reception. Jontesta (talk) 18:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Move to New Genesis (DC Comics) (as there is a song with that name) and then redirect to New Gods. No indication of notability. Not sure if the song is notable either, but it doesn't seem like a primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Bulletman enemies

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WP:OR without independent sources or any justification of the notability of the group. Fails other policies about what Wikipedia is not, such as "Wikipedia is not a directory". Jontesta (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - There are no reliable sources that discuss the overall topic of Bulletman and/or Bulletgirl's enemies as a group or set, making this a failure of the WP:GNG and WP:LISTN. On top of that, nearly all of these entries are one-shot characters that appeared in single issues. I was going to suggest a very selective merge to Bulletman and Bulletgirl#Rogues_gallery (i.e., mentioning the two or three entries here that were actually reoccurring), but as this list is completely unsourced, a merger would not really be appropriate. No prejudice against actually filling out that section of the main article with reliably sourced information on their handful of actually reoccurring rogues, though. Rorshacma (talk) 19:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge with the rogues gallery section at Bulletman and Bulletgirl. --Rtkat3 (talk) 01:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No significant coverage from reliable sources. Azuredivay (talk) 16:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No significant coverage and reliable sources are present, does not look suitable for Wikipedia. Stanley Joseph Wilkins (talk) 03:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Pugad Baboy villains

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WP:OR without independent sources or any justification of the notability of the group. Fails other policies about what Wikipedia is not, such as "Wikipedia is not a directory". Jontesta (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nomination. (This material could be used on a Pugad Baboy Wiki, however.) TH1980 (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Impasse (comics)

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An incredibly minor fictional character that, from what I can tell, only appeared in one, single issue of a comic. The one non-primary source being used in the article simply summarizes the plot of that single appearance. Searches turned up absolutely nothing else, not even brief mentions, on the character in reliable sources. Even fan wikis like the Marvel Database don't have an entry on the character. The character is as completely non-notable as a fictional character can possibly be, and is a complete failure of the WP:GNG. Rorshacma (talk) 00:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Merge & Redirect to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters due to lack of notability. The new article has her listed but she is one of the few characters without a description, which this merge can solve
SJD Willoughby (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I touched upon this in another similar AFD earlier today, but this particular case is a even bigger example of why a Merge to that article is improper. A throwaway adversary that appeared in one issue of a comic is not a "supporting character" of Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Listing the character on that page as if they were is outright misleading. Rorshacma (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That specific problem could be solved by choosing a different suitable merge target, List of Marvel Comics characters: I, or by changing the title of List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters to simpler (and less ambiguous?) List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist characters. Either way would be fine with me. Daranios (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of where it is, a completely inconsequential character that made one single-issue appearance is too non-notable to be merged or mentioned anywhere. The very act of covering the character on Wikipedia in any capacity would create more notability for the character than actually exists. Rorshacma (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a different objection from "listing him under supporting characters is misleading". The fact that the character has received its own entry in the specialized Encyclopedia of Super-Villains (although that one differs somewhat in nature to our encyclopedia here) in my view gives him enough notability, obviously not for a stand-alone article, but for a two-sentence summary in a list. And that view is not based on personal evaluation of the primary material. It's also one common way lists work. And I don't see a benefit in not having this condensed information. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete so non-notable we honestly don't even need a mention. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. BOZ (talk) 01:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. Does not seem notable in itself, but target can be improved by content based on a secondary source present here. Daranios (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete One-off characters aren't supporting characters and (generally) don't deserve a mention. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This doesn't deserve a mention and editors wouldn't search for "Impasse (comics)" anyway. Jontesta (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About one person does per day. So not many, but also not noone. And WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I do not see it necessary for this to exist and so without encyclopedic context my decision is to eliminate. Alon9393 (talk) 05:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: I. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. This doesn't have enough coverage to support even a mention. But I'd accept a redirect and a brief mention for the sake of WP:CONSENSUS and WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ghost Rider (Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.)

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Unnecessary incomplete disambiguation page (WP:INCDAB) of non-articles when IMO Ghost Rider (disambiguation) already takes care of all three entries. No incoming links. Redirecting it to the dab page as the (to me) obvious fix got reverted, so more discussion may be needed.

Entry #1: a redirect to a character list bullet point for a fictional character that had a non-speaking cameo appearance in the TV series
Entry #2: a redirect to a character list section for a one-season recurring character; it's debatable if this incarnation needs to be added to the dab page beyond the general character
Entry #3: a redirect to an episode list entry

– sgeureka ^t•c 11:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Ghost Rider (disambiguation)#Television and redirect: Links there are already provided to the comics versions, which in turn have references to the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. versions, but that disambiguation page does not include the direct links to the TV versions. I believe it would be beneficial to have those links as well. Daranios (talk) 12:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge as a fork of the other disambiguation. We don't need two. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge contents to Ghost Rider (disambiguation) § Television where these direct links to the AoS versions would be most beneficial. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:03, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I stated to the nom, they previously redirected while not merging any of the links. Merge all links. Gonnym (talk) 15:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the dab page and my nom, which indicate no merge (strictly) necessary. One link is already at the dab page, one is so trivial that it shouldn't be merged, and one is indirectly at the dab page via Ghost_Rider_(Robbie_Reyes)#Television. The reader will find everything they want via the general dab page already. – sgeureka ^t•c 15:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sgeureka: Please review the merge statments above. I agree that merging those additional links is not strictly necessary as they can be found in a roundabout way, but for anyone whose interest starts from the TV appearance, it would be easier to have them. In my view that includes the brief mention, too. And if we can make life more convenient for one group of Wikipedia readers, why shouldn't we. Daranios (talk) 10:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not disagreeing with you, but I want to make clear that I am opposed to merging all, and I am opposed to this INCDAB existing, both of which Gonnym explicitly argues for in word and action. That's all. :-) – sgeureka ^t•c 11:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Ghost Rider (disambiguation) per nom – As a relative newcomer to the Marvel universe, when I look up a character I'm interested in seeing their history in the comics as well as in film or TV, so the main dab page makes sense to me in a case like this. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 00:01, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegro (comics)

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Could not find any additional coverage that would suggest notability, and I don't think the encyclopedia appearances currently included would be enough on their own. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. BOZ (talk) 07:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can support this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Another incredibly minor character that has only made a handful of appearances. Searches are not turning up any coverage of the character in reliable sources (and barely anything in the usual non-reliable fan sites at that), leading me to believe that the one source listed in the article to verify his creation date is the closest thing to coverage the character ever got. Not every minor character that has ever appeared in a comic needs to be stuffed into a character list (and the proposed merge target here is one that I'm not even convinced would pass the WP:GNG itself), and this is an example of one that has so little notability both in real life and within the MU itself, that a merge would not be appropriate. Rorshacma (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The character is already on the list, and there is at least some sourced info here which isn't already there (the list currently only has the character's name linked back to this article). The notability of that list can be discussed in a different AfD if you're really concerned about it, but for now, so long as it exists and is a valid merge target, I don't see why we shouldn't. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 16:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my concern is that given how very few appearances he has actually made in the comics, referring to him as a "supporting character" of Luke Cage and Iron Fist is a rather huge stretch. The very act of having him on that list is ascribing more notability to the character than any sources I can find can actually attest to. Rorshacma (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. Does not seem notable in itself, but target can be improved by content based on a secondary source present here. Daranios (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: M with a brief mentioning at List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. --Rtkat3 (talk) 01:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Wayshak

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The article and a WP:BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources for this comic artist -- just WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS and WP:PRIMARYSOURCES. Thus the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO; the subject also meets no criterion of WP:NARTIST. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Collapsing vandalism from blocked user Kellpb93ke (talk) 16:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per the deletion of Daniel Morcombe which did get undeleted. Kellpb93ke (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC) — Kellpb93ke (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

What has this got to do with Morcombe? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kellpb93ke What does Daniel Morcombe have to do with Jonathan Wayshak? Did you mean to comment on a different discussion? Unless this comment was posted mistakenly, there is no actual rationale offered to keep the article. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete Poorly referenced. --Altenmann >talk 17:16, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Jonathan Wayshak is a primary subject in the MTV News, Juxtapoz, and Fangoria, and more cited in the article. He has illustrated posters for Beetlejuice, and comics for DC, Halo, etc. Hexatekin (talk) 04:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are we looking at the same sources?
- The MTV source is a WP:INTERVIEW and as a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE cannot contribute to notability.
- The Juxtapoz source has a single WP:TRIVIALMENTION of Wayshak's name.
- Fangoria has a single paragraph discussing a poster Wayshak illustrated, most of it consisting of a quote from Wayshak.
None of these are WP:SIGCOV to qualify toward notability. And it's a complete red herring to say "he has illustrated posters...and comics." That doesn't establish notability at all. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per source analysis below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230317204837/https://www.mtv.com/news/ae6ax8/sam-kieth-and-jonathan-wayshak-make-the-chickens-revolt-interview	Promotional site for MTV		interview	✘ No
https://gizmodo.com/indie-artist-interviews-new-york-comic-con-artist-alley-1849640204/4			interview	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20240822030049/https://www.circusposterus.com/blog/juxtapoz-teases-us-with-their-annual-halloween-issue/			blog posting about Halloween issue of Juxtapoz. No mention of other publications	✘ No
https://www.thewrap.com/godzilla-x-kong-mondo-toys-poster-reveal/			passing metion of poster	✘ No
https://www.fangoria.com/mondo-beetlejuice-wayshak/			site selling poster	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20220527121739/https://hifructose.com/2015/08/24/inside-the-sketchbook-of-comic-artist-jonathan-wayshak/	?	?	multple images	? Unknown
https://web.archive.org/web/20240416070823/https://www.dc.com/comics/the-ferryman-2008/the-ferryman-1			promo listing for Ferryman #1	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20240416081838/https://www.dc.com/comics/the-ferryman-2008/the-ferryman-2			promo listing for Ferryman #2	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20210224042407/https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/2353/dark-horse-comics-deploys-justin-jordan-call-duty			promo listing for Call of Duty: Zombies #1	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20240809132706/https://hifructose.com/2010/09/07/hi-fructose-collected-edition-vol-2/	?	?	Promo for Hi-Fructose Collected Edition Vol. 2	✘ No
https://web.archive.org/web/20240817205952/https://www.harvard.com/book/zerofriends_a_collection_of_art_passion_and_madness/			listing for Zerofriends at Harvard Booksotore	✘ No
https://www.thewrap.com/godzilla-x-kong-mondo-toys-poster-reveal/			A single WP:TRIVIALMENTION: "We are also super thrilled to debut a new timed edition poster by artist and illustrator Jonathan Wayshak, also for “Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire.” The 24” by 36” screen-printed poster is a striking black-and-white tableau featuring Godzilla and Kong battling the movie’s villain the Skar King, a ferocious ape from deep within Hollow Earth. The poster will go for $80. See it below."	✘ No
https://www.shelfabuse.com/comic-book-reviews/toner-5-comic-book-review/		ShelfAbuse is self-published by Carl Doherty (see WP:SPS). (https://www.shelfabuse.com/about/)		✘ No
https://www.popculturemaven.com/comics/new-comic-book-reviews-week-of-12016/			Review of Devolution issue 1; not WP:SIGCOV of subject	✘ No
https://theslingsandarrows.com/call-of-duty-zombies/			Review of Call of Duty: Zombies; not SIGCOV of subject. Review does not mention Wayshak's work.	✘ No
https://theslingsandarrows.com/devolution/			Review of Devolution issue 1; not WP:SIGCOV of subject	✘ No
https://www.youdontreadcomics.com/comics/2021/7/28/the-scumbag-9-review			Review of The Scumbag issue 9; not WP:SIGCOV of subject	✘ No
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KEEP: Wayshak is well-known in the comic book/graphic novel world. I have added reviews from a number of sources within that world, which I would suggest indicates some notability. Guinness323 (talk) 06:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added the sources to the assessment table above. They don't show WP:SIGCOV, except for sources that fail the test of independence or reliability. The closest they get is a claim of notability under WP:NARTIST, but that's only if you interpret a single comic book issue with two reviews as "a significant or well-known work or collective body of work." While the guideline does not describe comic books, it does generally exclude notability for individual works that are serial installments of a longer series (e.g. a TV show episode) and applying that principle to comic books would exclude this principle here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on sources added by Guinness323. BOZ (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, the save goes to Guinness323. Not a field I excel in but if the artist is well-known within it then notability becomes evident. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the article has improved with the new sources; was there really a WP:BEFORE? Tduk (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tduk, indeed there was. Read the source table. The sources added to the article do not support notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - based on the source analysis above and a BEFORE search. It is WP:TOOSOON for this artist, perhaps in a few more years there will be enough significant coverage in reliable sources that are fully independent of the subject to support an encyclopedia article. Being "well known" or having career success or "fame" is not the same as encyclopedic notability; this is not a reflection on the artist or their work, but simply a reality of WP's guidelines that have been crafted through consensus over a period of years. The article fails WP:NARTIST and WP:GNG at this time. Netherzone (talk) 02:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Source analysis appears to favor delete. The keep !voters need to remember that it is not a vote and would be advised to respond objectively and factually to source analysis.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 16:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per the source analysis, there aren't any reliable, independent sources with enough WP:SIGCOV to favour an article at the moment. I agree it may be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but for the time being, the article fails WP:ARTIST and WP:GNG. DesiMoore (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Namethatisnotinuse Namethatisnotinuse (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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