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    This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule.

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    • When reporting a user here, your own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first.
    • The format and contents of a 3RR/1RR report are important, use the "Click here to create a new report" button below to have a report template with the necessary fields to work from.
    • Possible alternatives to filing here are dispute resolution, or a request for page protection.
    • Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed.

    Definition of edit warring
    Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
    Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)
    An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

    Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.

    User:2607:fea8:639f:8740:8138:a840:ad4d:ee4f reported by User:Mac Dreamstate (Result: /64 blocked for a week)

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    Page: Naoya Inoue (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: 2607:fea8:639f:8740:8138:a840:ad4d:ee4f (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to: [1] – revision without subjective terminology

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [2] – Canadian IP reverting once
    2. [3] – twice
    3. [4] – thrice
    4. [5] – going..
    5. [6] – going some more..

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [7] – 3RR

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: ongoing article talk page discussion

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [8]

    Comments:
    A Canadian IP, currently 2607:fea8:639f:8740:8138:a840:ad4d:ee4f, is back to edit warring at Naoya Inoue's article, having previously backed off in April after page protection. This time round, IP is fixated with the words "perfect" and "impressive" remaining in the article, despite MOS:PUFFERY recommending against doing so, and user Deaxmann striving to de-pufferise the article.

    As well as disputing content, IP has also conduct issues, being uncivil towards User:Deaxmann and myself: [9], [10]. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    IP's grasp on how editing works appears to be misguided. Apparently, because an article has contained certain words (now under dispute) for six years, there is no reason to ever change it: [11]. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Blocked – for a period of one week The 2607:FEA8:639F:8740:0:0:0:0/64 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) range, to be precise. Unfortunately, Mac, they are not the first editor to think that language in an article must considered set in stone after a certain time. Daniel Case (talk) 21:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course. But to which MOS/guideline should I point such editors? I don't think it's WP:CCC, as there's nothing in the article for which consensus has been needed so far. Maybe WP:STABLE? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:2607:FEA8:8C40:5C50:CD55:7554:4E37:E336 reported by User:Lemonaka (Result: /64 range blocked for 24 hours)

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    Page: Blackout Wednesday (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 2607:FEA8:8C40:5C50:CD55:7554:4E37:E336 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 03:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 03:20, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 03:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "True fact. https://www.canucksdaily.com/nhl/news/nhl-commissioner-gary-bettman-caught-knocking-back-drinks-during-utah-inaugural-game"
    4. 02:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "True fact"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 03:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Blackout Wednesday."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Keep adding unsourced content. -Lemonaka 03:25, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:DTPPOLLSON reported by User:JeffUK (Result: Indefinitely blocked)

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    Page: Vada (food) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: DTPPOLLSON (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 15:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. Consecutive edits made from 14:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC) to 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
      1. 14:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 14:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC) ""
      3. 14:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 14:48, 27 November 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 15:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Vandalism on Vada (food)."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Keeps re-adding the same detail, I'm not sure if this is a joke I don't get, an advert, or just WP:OR, Also editing on IP Special:Contributions/178.248.115.35 JeffUK 09:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:85.249.23.105 reported by User:Lemonaka (Result: Blocked for 31h)

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    Page: Fly-killing device (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: 85.249.23.105 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 11:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "/* Flypaper */"
    2. 11:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. 11:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "/* Flypaper */"
    4. 11:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    5. 11:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "/* Flypaper */"

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 11:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Fly-killing device."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Clearly nonconstructive editing, change files to unrelated content. -Lemonaka 11:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Super Mario 1887 reported by User:Egghead06 (Result: Indefinitely pblocked)

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    Page: James Rowe (footballer, born 1983) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Super Mario 1887 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Consecutive edits made from 14:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC) to 15:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
      1. 14:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "There is a discussion still open on this that has not been concluded. The edits surrounding dissent are still ambiguous at best. It would be findable on the FA fines and disciplinary site and it isn’t. Please see discussion. A compromise is that Rowe signed for Rugby and left. If the fine amount, date of fine and type of dissent is found then by all means this can be edited in."
      2. 15:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "Again this is being discussed as it not to be edited. Like me editors such as RedPatch have agreed that the edit isn’t necessary, Rowe is notable for his managerial career,"
      3. 15:05, 28 November 2024 (UTC) "/* Managerial statistics */Going through the reference added for AFC Fylde statistic's these are the correct stats."

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Editor continues edit warring immediately at end of ban. There are a number of discussions open on talk page together with a consensus on the way forward on how to handle the display of statistics. Editor has unilaterally decided to go their own way despite open discussions on talk page. Egghead06 (talk) 15:13, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Egghead06 that simply isn’t true . The edits you made yesterday were not in line with open discussions with are being moderated. Once they have been concluded such as Lead in, or professional career on the page of James Rowe you can make this edit war point. However they are still
    ongoing and therefore nothing has been agreed . Super Mario 1887 (talk) 15:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As you have on the lead in and professional career. Super Mario 1887 (talk) 15:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    [[User:]] reported by User:Rechinul (Result: Declined – malformed report)

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    Page:  Page-multi error: no page detected.
    User being reported: User-multi error: no username detected (help).

    Previous version reverted to: [12]

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [13]
    2. [diff]
    3. [diff]
    4. [diff]



    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [14]

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]

    Comments:

    If he is accusing me of violating 3RR, Rechinul does not understand what "revert" means. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:17, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Hdtbraz reported by User:Geraldo Perez (Result: Page fully protected for 2 days, Hdtbraz warned)

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    Page: Morena Baccarin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Hdtbraz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. 05:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    2. 04:54, 29 November 2024 (UTC) ""
    3. Consecutive edits made from 04:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC) to 04:13, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
      1. 04:07, 29 November 2024 (UTC) ""
      2. 04:13, 29 November 2024 (UTC) ""

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. 04:27, 29 November 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Unconstructive editing on Morena Baccarin."
    2. 05:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Morena Baccarin."

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:


    Comments:

    Refuses invitation to engage on existing talk page discussion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Emiya1980 reported by User:LilAhok (Result: Page protected)

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    Page: Hirohito (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

    User being reported: Emiya1980 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. [15] - 05:31, 29 November 2024
    2. [16] - 07:03, 29 November 2024
    3. [17] - 07:15, 29 November 2024
    4. [18] - 07:27, 29 November 2024

    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    1. [19] (i accidently signed this with the wrong username. copied and pasted a template to sign the edit but forgot to change the username)

    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    1. [20]

    Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [21]

    Comments:

    To the extent that I violated the 3 revert-rule, I admit to edit-warring. That being said, LilAhok is clearly involved in edit-warring as well.

    In the dispute in question, I added the phrase "Long after the war's end" in order to better connect the concluding sentence with those that came before it. LilAhok reverted this change on the grounds that it was unnecessary. During the course of us going back and forth reverting each other, they argued that I bore the onus of obtaining consensus prior to including such material in the lede. I pointed out that another editor had edited the sentence so that it was prefaced with the phrase, "To this day" prior to them deleting said language. I subsequently restored this version of the article on the grounds that it was preferable alternative and said that the burden was now on them to obtain consensus before excluding such evidence seeing as how he was now in the minority on the matter. After said edit, LilAhok posted an warning against edit-warring tag to my page (while signing it under another editor's name) then opened a discussion on the talk page regarding our impasse before proceeding to revert me yet again notwithstanding my prior explanation to them. After I responded in kind on said page while reiterating my argument that he was in the minority, they responded by reporting me to this forum.

    As a Wikipedia editor, properly picking my battles has been an issue that I have struggled with in the past but is one that I am working on in the interests of being a constructive member of this project. In this case, I lapsed by once again fighting fire with fire and to this I admit my fault. If I am to be punished, all that I ask is that LilAhok's actions likely be subject to the same scrutiny.Emiya1980 (talk) 08:37, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I would like to add that Emiya1980 has not followed WP:CIV & WP:AVOIDYOU, and has been belligerent through their edits or comments:
    1. [22] Instead of writing any disagreements the user may have with me on my talk page, user made accusations against me on another user's talk page, giving it the title "Problems with LilAhok". User alleged that my preferred version is grammatically inferior. (issue was taken to talk page. my views are presented there)
    2. [23] In this edit, user stated, "Reverted changes to the first sentence. Regardless of what details you want to include (which is another issue altogether), there is no excuse for sloppy writing." user dismissed my "details" and belittled my writing.
    nevertheless, 3RR was violated. LilAhok (talk) 08:39, 29 November 2024 (UTC)\[reply]
    I am curious though. Why did you sign your warning on my page as another editor? Emiya1980 (talk) 08:47, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Arguing that your writing is not up to the standards of a Wikipedia page is not a personal attack. That being said, your actions likewise constitute edit-warring even though you are technically within the bounds of the 3 revert rule. The warning you posted on my page makes that clear.
    As for me not discussing the issue with you directly, you were very dismissive the last time I tried to carry on a discussion with you about your edits to Hirohito. When you disagree with me on how the page should look, you have made it clear you are more interested in fighting me tooth-and-nail rather than trying to reach a consensus that is acceptable (if not preferable) to both parties. Frankly, that gets tiring after a while. Emiya1980 (talk) 08:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Page protected for a period of 2 days. Both of you broke 3RR, so technically you could both be blocked. LilAhok is at least attempting to engage on the article's talk page. Emiya1980, I have yet to see you discuss this matter on the talk page at all. I strongly encourage both of you to take a step back and cool off, then discuss on the talk page before editing the article again. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 09:48, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]