User talk:Zuti car

Welcome

Hello, Zuti car! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking

or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ Talk ♪} ߷ _{♀ Contribs ♀} 11:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Started
The five pillars of Wikipedia • Tutorial • Your first article How to: edit a page • upload an image
Getting Help
Frequently Asked Questions New contributors' help page Where to: ask questions • make requests Request administrator attention
Policies and Guidelines
Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Simplified Manual of Style • Three-revert rule Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism • Sock puppetry Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability

The Community
Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists
Things to do
Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Maintenance • Peer review • Requested articles Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism
Miscellaneous
Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Welcome to Wikipedia. A page you recently created, Božidar Bobby Gabershek‎, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new pages, so it will be removed shortly (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests, and consider using the Article Wizard. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Božidar Bobby Gabershek

The article Božidar Bobby Gabershek has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Ϣere SpielChequers 11:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

April 2013

Hello, Zuti car. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Božidar Bobby Gabershek, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

If you are very close to a subject, here are some ways you can reduce the risk of problems:

Avoid or exercise great caution when editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with.
Be cautious about deletion discussions. Everyone is welcome to provide information about independent sources in deletion discussions, but avoid advocating for deletion of articles about your competitors.
Avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
Exercise great caution so that you do not accidentally breach Wikipedia's content policies.

Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ Talk ♪} ߷ _{♀ Contribs ♀} 11:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello , thank you for your help. Regarding the Bobby Gabershek article I want to clarify couple of things. I am not Bobby Gabershek as someone said and I do not know him personally , my only connection to him is that we practice same style of kung fu . Gabershek is the most important kung fu figure in former Yugoslavia , actually a person who brought Chinese martial arts in that part of the world , founder of the first kung fu federation recognized by ministry of sport , first one who had brought Chinese teacher(Kwong Yui Cheung) in former eastern block ect . You can not measure someone's importance by amount of internet representation , some people , especially older generations ,have limited internet knowledge . If you have any question regarding this topic will be glad to answer it. Zuti car (talk) 12:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please show proof that Gabersek is notable. --76.189.111.2 (talk) 13:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At the end it is an nationality and language issue . If someone is not notable for english speakers he is totally unimportant . Just delete the page . I have one more question , is there any way to cancel my account here immediately ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuti car (talk • contribs) 14:01, 8 April 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

The problem has nothing to do with the language someone speaks. It's about notability and verifiability. --76.189.111.2 (talk) 15:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot actually cancel your account, by read WP:VANISH as an option. --76.189.111.2 (talk) 16:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zuti. This is neither a Nationality issue nor a language one. We prefer sources to be in English, but they don't have to be, and though online sources are more convenient offline ones are just as good. If this gentleman is as important as you say then there are likely to be magazines and newspapers and maybe books that have discussed him. If you can access them then please do so. wp:WikiProject Martial Arts or wp:WikiProject Yugoslavia may be able to help you. Ϣere SpielChequers 17:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You have to understand that finding internet material about period before 2000 is very difficult and since 1997. Gabersek work only with military and police personal and there is no public record of his work. Anyway i will give my best to find some evidence for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le91aDBZuJE on this video you can see an interview on Macedonian national TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=770a134p85w here is report on Serbian national TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1io9YXjrKo from 8:30 you can see some officials from Chinese embassy and some city officials who rewarded Gabershek's organization .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ_dz8CTU-4&list=UUIfj-tRwENqofN9Xn9dqpRQ&index=12 local TV report , this seminar organized by Gabersek was the largest Wing Chun seminar in Europe ever, more then 130 people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gClt-qL-aAo&list=UUIfj-tRwENqofN9Xn9dqpRQ&index=111 Serbian national TV, 1988 .First Traditional Wing Chun seminar with Chinese master in Serbia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggDJ-FpcThk rare footage from seminar for Macedonian police special forces

This what i could find on youtube , mostly Tv interviews and reports . Written material i do not have but i know one private student of Gabersek who probably could share some of the magazines , official documents and books related to this matter but that require time for scanning all thous material and i need some e mail address to send all of that Zuti car (talk) 04:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. Unfortunately, except under limited exceptions YouTube videos cannot be used because they violate WP:RELIABLE, WP:COPYVIO, and WP:YOUTUBE. Also, all those videos are from the account of a private user rather than being an official account of a relevant organization. Finally, although moot, the videos don't appear to even establish his notability, which of course is the primary concern. 76.189.111.2 (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zuti, you don't need to provide copies of those television program magazines and books, just for each fact in the article we need the name of the program, magazine or book, the page number (for books or magazines) and for TV or magazines the issue or episode number or date. Official records aren't much use to us as they are usually primary sources, we are a tertiary source and we are looking to build our encyclopaedia from information that others have put into secondary sources such as TV programs, newspapers, magazines and books. Hope that helps, WP:Reliable Sources might give you more information. Ϣere SpielChequers 21:36, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Božidar Bobby Gabershek

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Božidar Bobby Gabershek requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ Talk ♪} ߷ _{♀ Contribs ♀} 13:12, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: K.K.ORCHARD (December 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Theroadislong were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:K.K.ORCHARD and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:K.K.ORCHARD, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 13:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Zuti car! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 13:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:K.K.ORCHARD

Hello, Zuti car. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:K.K.ORCHARD, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]