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Please comment on Talk:Sabine Weyand
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WikiCup 2018 November newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our Champion this year is Courcelles (submissions), who over the course of the competition has amassed 147 GAs, 111 GARs, 9 DYKs, 4 FLs and 1 ITN. Our finalists were as follows:
- Courcelles (submissions)
- Kosack (submissions)
- Kees08 (submissions)
- SounderBruce (submissions)
- Cas Liber (submissions)
- Nova Crystallis (submissions)
- Iazyges (submissions)
- Ceranthor (submissions)
All those who reached the final win awards, and awards will also be going to the following participants:
- Cas Liber (submissions) wins the FA prize, for three featured articles in round 2.
- Courcelles (submissions) wins the GA prize, for 92 good articles in round 3.
- Kosack (submissions) wins the FL prize, for five featured lists overall.
- Cartoon network freak (submissions) wins the topic prize, for 30 articles in good topics overall.
- Usernameunique (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 24 did you know articles in round 3.
- Zanhe (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 17 in the news articles overall.
- Aoba47 (submissions) wins the GAR prize, for 43 good article reviews in round 1.
Awards will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!
Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved much this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition.
Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2019 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email) and Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email).
WikiCup 2019 March newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.
Our top scorers in Round 1 were:
- L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
- Adam Cuerden, a WikiCup veteran, came next with 274 points, mostly from eight featured pictures, restorations of artwork.
- MPJ-DK, a wrestling enthusiast, was in third place with 263 points, garnered from a featured list, five good articles, two DYKs and four GARs.
- Usernameunique came next at 243, with a featured article and a good article, both on ancient helmets.
- Squeamish Ossifrage was in joint fifth place with 224 points, mostly garnered from bringing the 1937 Fox vault fire to featured article status.
- Ed! was also on 224, with an amazing number of good article reviews (56 actually).
These contestants, like all the others, now have to start scoring points again from scratch. Between them, contestants completed reviews on 143 good articles, one hundred more than the number of good articles they claimed for, thus making a substantial dent in the review backlog. Well done all!
Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews.
If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13 (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Vanamonde (talk) and Cwmhiraeth (talk).
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21:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
A couple of DYK approved noms not moving to /Approved page
Wugapodes, while preparing the latest "oldest noms" list today, I noticed two nominations that had been ticked, but not moved from the Nominations page to the Approved page. Can you please take a look at what might be preventing the bot from moving them? I figured that would be more useful to you than just moving them myself.
- June 9: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Joseph Bigger (uses the DYK checklist template)
- July 7: Template:Did you know nominations/Gerda Hofstätter (was nominated and ticked on July 7)
If I haven't heard one way or the other, I'll probably move the July 7 one myself by the end of this week. The June 9 one might end up moving on its own; I've pinged the reviewer, and they might add another tick lower down which could induce the bot to do the move. We'll see. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: I think these have two different causes. The Gerda Hofstatter issue was that the nom moved the page, but didn't change the link on the nom page. I'm not quite sure what the problem is with Francis Joseph Bigger. I'll keep looking at that one. Wug·a·po·des 07:20, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Wugapodes, here's one that was ticked this morning, using DYK checklist: Template:Did you know nominations/Wildlife of Uganda. Since you have another example of this issue, I'm going manually move the Francis Joseph Bigger one sometime today, unless you really want me to hold off a little while longer. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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Please comment on Talk:Israel Shamir
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- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).
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- A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [2][3]
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- Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.
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13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
relist notes
In regard to Talk:Goldust#Requested move 27 July 2019, when you relist with an added note, it appears to be better for the RMCD bot if you place the note after the {{subst:Relisting}} template. For notes like that I like to go to the next line and indent with 2 colons. Either way, that seems to make the bot happy and keeps the discussion out of the Malformed requests section. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 19:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Darn, placing the note after your sig didn't work either. Had to use the "next line, 2 colon" method. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 19:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Paine Ellsworth: thanks for doing that and for the tip! I had seen other RMs with inline relist notes, but knowing the problem it seems to cause with the bot I'll take your suggestion of just putting the comment on a new line. Wug·a·po·des 04:29, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
I thought your willingness to extend discussion was exemplary. I have no problems with non admin closure and I am fully aware and support the consensus we come to may be exactly what you did. Thanks again and cheers. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
- @Hell in a Bucket: Thanks! Discussions about closes can easily devolve into assumptions of bad faith (and I've been on both sides fo that), so it was nice that everyone was willing to work together. I'm glad editors like you are taking good care of the article; keep up the good work! Wug·a·po·des 04:44, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Page mover granted
Hello, Wugapodes. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.
Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect
is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.
Useful links:
- Wikipedia:Requested moves
- Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.
If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! GABgab 22:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- I also threw in rollback rights GABgab 22:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks GeneralizationsAreBad! I read through WP:Rollback, but I also remember some row about people misclicking on their phones and accidentally rollbacking a lot of edits. You may not be the right person to ask, but do you know if that ever got resolved? I've got big thumbs after all. Wug·a·po·des 04:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ah I found the list of user scripts which seems to resolve this and more. Wug·a·po·des 04:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks GeneralizationsAreBad! I read through WP:Rollback, but I also remember some row about people misclicking on their phones and accidentally rollbacking a lot of edits. You may not be the right person to ask, but do you know if that ever got resolved? I've got big thumbs after all. Wug·a·po·des 04:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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- Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [4]
- Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [5]
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- Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [6]
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- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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- The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.
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18:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Voodoo Doughnut
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Jordan Hall (Stanford University) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Jordan Hall (Stanford University), does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Wugapodes, Greetings. Pls note that you article could not be accepted as there are no sources provided to support the content claimed. We need multiple independent, reliable sources for verification. Sources associated with the subject, user generated sources, press releases, interviews and etc can not be used to demonstrate/contribute to the notability requirements needed. Pls read WP:GOLDENRULE. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:31, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- @CASSIOPEIA: Your move to draft space is controversial as I reverted it. I will not work on it in draft space, so unless you plan to work on it there, do not repeat the move. Per WP:DRAFTIFY nominate it for deletion at AFD if you do not believe it satisfies the GNG. Per Wikipedia:Page mover#Conduct expectations please self-revert and stop repeating controversial page moves. Wug·a·po·des 07:23, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Wugapodes, Greetings. Pls note that you article could not be accepted as there are no sources provided to support the content claimed. We need multiple independent, reliable sources for verification. Sources associated with the subject, user generated sources, press releases, interviews and etc can not be used to demonstrate/contribute to the notability requirements needed. Pls read WP:GOLDENRULE. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:31, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- It is as per WP:NPPDRAFT. This is for you to add the sources to support the content claimed for verification for it is not notable to be in the mainspace. You can choose to move back; however, it might get nominated for AfD or merge. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Jordan Hall (Stanford University) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jordan Hall (Stanford University) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jordan Hall (Stanford University) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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- There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.
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- Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
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- Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [8]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).
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15:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
Queried DYK hooks and Wugbot
Hi Wugapodes
Just curious about the DYK entry for "On Her Shoulders", which appears at WP:DYKNA even though the most recent entry on the nom page is a query, and there are outstanding issues which mean it is not yet suitable for promotion. Is it the intended behaviour to keep such entries at DYKNA, or is it a quirk because of the intending/positioning of the query template? Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:06, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Amakuru: WugBot does not perform two-way moves at the moment, so if a nomination is approved, WugBot places it on DYKNA and if it is unapproved WugBot does not return it to DYKN. It know the status of unapproved nominations, so if someone manually returns it to DYKN, WugBot won't move it until it is approved again. Supporting two-way moves is something I worked on in the past, but fell by the wayside for some reason. I'll resume that, though I'm a little busy in real life this week, so it might take me a few days to run the tests and make sure things the new version works right. Wug·a·po·des 18:13, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Eduard Müller (Austrian politician)
On 20 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eduard Müller (Austrian politician), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that new Austrian Finance Minister Eduard Müller began his career as a tax inspector? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eduard Müller (Austrian politician). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Eduard Müller (Austrian politician)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Richard B. Spencer
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Thank you for your comment
I appreciate people who genuinely want to help. Tony May (talk) 16:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
Thanks for your support for my unsuccessful RfA, especially your words in support. This was greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:10, 23 August 2019 (UTC) |
Please comment on Talk:2019 Dayton shooting
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Three digit numbers
I think your edit here may have pasted in some spurious text along with the good edits. Certes (talk) 00:23, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Certes: Good catch! I've fixed it. And thanks for posting the link to the previous RfC; I assumed one existed but had no clue where it was. Wug·a·po·des 00:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Wugapodes, there has been a response from the nominator to your DYK review. Please stop by at your earliest convenience to continue the review. Many thanks. (If you won't be returning, then please let me know so I can find a new reveiwer.) BlueMoonset (talk) 20:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2019 September newsletter
The fourth round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 454 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with over 400 points being eliminated, and all but two of the finalists having achieved an FA during the round. Casliber, our 2016 winner, was the highest point-scorer, followed by Enwebb and Lee Vilenski, who are both new to the competition. In fourth place was SounderBruce, a finalist last year. But all those points are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.
Round 4 saw the achievement of 11 featured articles. In addition, Adam Cuerden scored with 18 FPs, Lee Vilenski led the GA score with 8 GAs while Kosack performed 15 GA reviews. There were around 40 DYKs, 40 GARs and 31 GAs overall during round 4. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.
As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).
If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66, Vanamonde and Cwmhiraeth MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
understandability criterion
The proposal has received unanimous support in the 30+ days it's been up. How do we proceed now?--Megaman en m (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Megaman en m: I've closed the discussion and implemented the change with this edit. Thanks for the suggestion and for your patience in seeing it through! Wug·a·po·des 20:28, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Indexes
In your comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of United States Supreme Court cases, volume 263, I believe you meant index rather than index. TJRC (talk) 04:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
"Beckman Professor" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Beckman Professor. Since you had some involvement with the Beckman Professor redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Polyamorph (talk) 09:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages. [10]
- The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
- The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues. [11]
- The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute. [12]
- The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:. [13]
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- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 September. It will be on all wikis from 5 September (calendar).
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- You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on September 10 at 05:00 (UTC). [15]
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09:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:List of the Cenozoic life of Washington (state)
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New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019
Hello Wugapodes,
- Backlog
Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.
- Coordinator
A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.
- This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
- Deletion tags
Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon (you will need to have 'Nominated for deletion' enabled for this in your filters) may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders using Twinkle. They require your further verification.
- Paid editing
Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.
- Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
- Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
- Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
- Not English
- A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
- Tools
Regular reviewers will appreciate the most recent enhancements to the New Pages Feed and features in the Curation tool, and there are still more to come. Due to the wealth of information now displayed by ORES, reviewers are strongly encouraged to use the system now rather than Twinkle; it will also correctly populate the logs.
Stub sorting, by SD0001: A new script is available for adding/removing stub tags. See User:SD0001/StubSorter.js, It features a simple HotCat-style dynamic search field. Many of the reviewers who are using it are finding it an improvement upon other available tools.
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Please comment on Talk:U.S. state
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Wugbot
I see Wugbot shows as active but hasn't updated the GA report for a couple days. Is everything working alright with it? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49: Thanks for the heads up. I'm a little busy at the moment, so unfortunately I may not be able to fix this quickly as the problem seems complicated. Pywikibot is raising
pywikibot.data.api.APIError: readonly: The database has been automatically locked while the slave database servers catch up to the master
which is unexpected given that the other task has been working fine. I'll try updating pywikibot and maybe that will help. Wug·a·po·des 17:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC) - Curiously, when I ran it manually, the bot was able to write fine. I've since updated the pywikibot version that the GANReport task uses, so hopefully it runs fine at 1:00 UTC. Wug·a·po·des 17:56, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wugapodes, unfortunately it didn't run the GA report at 01:00 on 13 September, and has now also missed 14 September. Can you look in every day or two, and manually run the reports if the automatic doesn't work, at least until we have success for a couple of days in a row? I think it's especially useful given that the GAN backlog drive is ongoing, and the to-be-reviewed totals are dropping quickly, but also so the list of the oldest unreviewed noms doesn't get too far out of date. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49 and BlueMoonset: Thanks for being patient! I fixed the error that caused it to fail the last time it tried to run, and did a manual run as well so that it's up to date. Like I said I'm out doing fieldwork and while usually I monitor the bot closely for a few days after issues like this, my access to computers and wifi are limited at the moment. If there continue to be problems, give me a ping and it will be my top priority when I'm online. Wug·a·po·des 21:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wugapodes, thanks. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:45, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Barkeep49 and BlueMoonset: Thanks for being patient! I fixed the error that caused it to fail the last time it tried to run, and did a manual run as well so that it's up to date. Like I said I'm out doing fieldwork and while usually I monitor the bot closely for a few days after issues like this, my access to computers and wifi are limited at the moment. If there continue to be problems, give me a ping and it will be my top priority when I'm online. Wug·a·po·des 21:18, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wugapodes, unfortunately it didn't run the GA report at 01:00 on 13 September, and has now also missed 14 September. Can you look in every day or two, and manually run the reports if the automatic doesn't work, at least until we have success for a couple of days in a row? I think it's especially useful given that the GAN backlog drive is ongoing, and the to-be-reviewed totals are dropping quickly, but also so the list of the oldest unreviewed noms doesn't get too far out of date. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Right-wing populism
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RfA
Hi Wugapodes, I have asked for your question to be removed because repeating something you believe was the things that was oversighted is probably not acceptable (though I understand where you come from). I'ld like to point out that the editor was already rebanned by the community when I wrote my comments, it was not during the period when they were unbanned. Fram (talk) 09:24, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Never mind, apparently it isn't a problem. Fram (talk) 09:28, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Fram: Thanks for the note, I completely understand where you came from in making the request and went back and forth on whether it was appropriate to ask. Since you're here, I want to say again: welcome back to the community. I never like seeing our community lose a member, and I look forward to more contributions from you. Hopefully I can support in a few months time. Wug·a·po·des 09:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for your understanding. If this RfA fails (which seems highly likely of course), I'll not reapply until at least one year has passed. But I do intend to continue editing. Fram (talk) 09:43, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Fram: Thanks for the note, I completely understand where you came from in making the request and went back and forth on whether it was appropriate to ask. Since you're here, I want to say again: welcome back to the community. I never like seeing our community lose a member, and I look forward to more contributions from you. Hopefully I can support in a few months time. Wug·a·po·des 09:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion
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The Signpost: 30 September 2019
- From the editors: Where do we go from here?
- Special report: Post-Framgate wrapup
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16:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm confused how you found consensus for retargeting 🏴 to List of Thai flags over Chiang Rai Province. Simply put, Chiang Rai Province provides the most context for the flag. All List of Thai flags does is show the flag in a table, which Chiang Rai Province already does in the infobox. Besides, all other flags target the jurisdiction where there is not a "Flag of Foo" article. From my read of the discussion, there was not much understanding of the situation in the early discussion, but after my !vote, everyone else who !voted after me agreed with me. This is evidence of a stronger consensus for that option because subsequent !voters had to knowingly choose that option over the List of Thai flags. That is, List of Thai flags did not gain favor once my suggestion became an option. Additionally, Paul 012 stated that it should target wherever Flag of Chiang Rai Province targeted—but it was targeting Chiang Rai Province at that time, which I read as an endorsement for where it was targeted. Can you please reconsider or clarify your decision? Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Tavix: Looking at that discussion again, I think I mixed up your comment with the comment above yours. Because of that, I wrongly interpreted the "per Tavix" !votes as endorsing List of Thai flags. I'll reclose the discussion and fix the redirects. Thanks for bringing this up! Wug·a·po·des 04:25, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Actually I'm going to reopen it instead of reclose. Now that I interpret the "per Tavix" comments correctly, I don't think consensus is particularly clear and additional discussion would be beneficial. Wug·a·po·des 04:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, I appreciate it! -- Tavix (talk) 13:05, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Actually I'm going to reopen it instead of reclose. Now that I interpret the "per Tavix" comments correctly, I don't think consensus is particularly clear and additional discussion would be beneficial. Wug·a·po·des 04:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Answer about redirect
Alright, I guess it isn't as clear as I thought, and I apologize, I should really edit the roller coaster's page a little bit because it probably isn't clear to anyone else. I am working on a list on the amusement park project that lists every roller coaster on the Roller Coaster Database based on the id number in the url. Well, the main thing that the project is trying to do is to have every roller coaster on that site have the ability to be linked on wikipedia.
According to the site, Twist n' Shout (which shouldn't even be called Twist n' Shout anymore, it was relocated in 2017 to another park), used to be located at Camelot Theme Park as Tower of Terror. GamemasterDael (talk) 08:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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15:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Britain First
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DirectCash Bank and General Bank of Canada
@Wugapodes: see discussion on the User_talk:DGG Talk page for why I updated your helpful edit to a Wikipedia:Soft redirect. If you have a better solution, I'd welcome it. Of course, downside of keeping these redirects is that, should someone decide to write an article, it will circumvent the New Page Review process. --Doug Mehus (talk) 13:54, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Refactoring my comments
Hi, feel free to move my comments in the "Talking it out" subthread at ANI around (including into different subthreads) as you see fit. As I said, I'm not planning to get significantly involved in the discussion so whatever you feel works best is fine with me. Nil Einne (talk) 07:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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23:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
AN/desysop RfC
Posted here. Nothing negative about you, but I think it's a significant enough question that getting more eyes is needed. I also owe you an email back about something else, and I'm so sorry I've taken so long :( TonyBallioni (talk) 03:35, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: I'm happy to get more eyes on it; no need for apologies! What to do about sysops, whether first time at RfA, again at BN, or removing the bit, is a big question and you've done a really good job trying to build consensus for improvements. I hope you don't take the statement as a slight against you. Hopefully the additional attention can help build consensus for a particular path whether this that or the other. As an aside, my laptop broke, and I won't have a new one for a day or two. My apologies if I'm slow to respond to things (and as I've said, seriously no rush on the email). Wug·a·po·des 04:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Adam Leitman Bailey
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Hang on
I had something for you - give me a bit to dig it up. — Ched (talk) 02:56, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi there Wugapodes. I had put your talk page in a "to-do" folder, and wanted to get back to it. I just wanted to say I really admire the work you've been doing on wiki. Not just scripts, bots, and such - but things like the work you do at DYK and GA/GAN. I think when I really noticed your work though was when I saw you trying to find a middle ground at ANI. Your efforts to find a peaceful solution really impressed me. I do hope you're able to find that peace in our time .. portal. — Ched (talk) 03:05, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Ched: Thanks for the kind words! Every time I see the "new messages" notification I always think "Oh no, what did I break", so it's always a relief when to find out nothing's on fire. I also hope we find peace in our time, though by the end of that thread I'd become a little less optimistic. Dum spiro spero, so hopefully the most recent thread was enough of a wake-up call that portal regulars figure out a way to coexist. Wug·a·po·des 04:03, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yea - I'd guess at least 80% of the folks that see that "You've got talk page messages" tend to get butterflies when they see it. Dum spiro spero? I guess I should have passed on the Spanish, and taken Latin all those years ago. (not that I'd remember it now). And at the risk of dating myself, when I read "Dum spiro" - my thoughts jumped to a fella named Agnew, but I'm guessing that's well before your time. And yes, I hope you're right about the wake-up, but I won't hold my breath. — Ched (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, perhaps you'd want to add Cicero to your list of future studies then! My Latin teachers in high school tended to assign a lot of his works as translation homework, and it's an interesting collection of personal letters, philosophy, and legal arguments. Wikiquote has some good selections, my favorite being On Duties. I was a few decades late for Spiro Agnew; by the time I learned about him he had already lost his mind. Wug·a·po·des 22:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yea - I'd guess at least 80% of the folks that see that "You've got talk page messages" tend to get butterflies when they see it. Dum spiro spero? I guess I should have passed on the Spanish, and taken Latin all those years ago. (not that I'd remember it now). And at the risk of dating myself, when I read "Dum spiro" - my thoughts jumped to a fella named Agnew, but I'm guessing that's well before your time. And yes, I hope you're right about the wake-up, but I won't hold my breath. — Ched (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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14:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)